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Who in DC can defeat Perpetua
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Galan007
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Originally posted by CatL18
BTW, in Morrison and Geoff's setting, it is Superman who represents ink(imagination)
But, in Snyder setting, it is probably The Source who represents ink.
What do you think this difference?
My take:

The Overvoid is the blank paper/canvas of the comic book itself -- the 'white space' in between panels. I believe the Source is a type of proxy/variation of the Overvoid(as they both transcend ALL), and is used as the means through which writers can introduce the ink/content to the page.

Thought-Robot was powered by the most powerful and hopeful story in existence: the story of Superman. That was the only way to counter Mandrakk, who was, literally, the epitome/manifestation of 'bad story' -- the metafictional essence of evil, if you will.


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Originally posted by Galan007
My take:

The Overvoid is the blank paper/canvas of the comic book itself -- the 'white space' in between panels. I believe the Source is a type of proxy/variation of the Overvoid(as they both transcend ALL), and is used as the means through which writers can introduce the ink/content to the page.

Thought-Robot was powered by the most powerful and hopeful story in existence: the story of Superman. That was the only way to counter Mandrakk, who was, literally, the epitome/manifestation of 'bad story' -- the metafictional essence of evil, if you will.

I see.
I totally agree with your explanation.

I think strongest power in DC is the imagination itself.
It has been confirmed by many stories like Final Crisis.
That is why I put CAS and 5th Dimensional Imp like Mxy at one of highest tier.

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Originally posted by Diesldude
what if Superman beats up Dr. Manhattan?


That would be weird. A physical conflict between the two should never happen. For example, even if DOTNG's isn't canon, Superman states that there are simply forces beyond his powers. This is further reinforced, when he and the other forces of order are routed by Apex Luthor in what I'd assumed was a hypothetical mock up of how the battle would go if they fought it without first gathering the fragments. In that future, they all died.

ATM the situation has placed the forces of good in a do or die position. This shows that Superman has a limit, or he'd just go sundip and save the day solo, Superman has limits, he can just take more bullshit than mostly any Earth hero can.


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Maybe Mxy. Maybe Doc Manhattan.


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Definite:
Overvoid/Source/Presence/
Elaine Belloc
Great Evil Beast

Possibly:
Judges of the Source (they done it once)
The Endless altogether
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgos
Mxy
CA Superman/Mandrakk
Yellow Aliens
The Leviathan of Stories
The Empty Hand


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Definite:
Overvoid/Source/Presence/
Elaine Belloc
Great Evil Beast

Possibly:
Judges of the Source (they done it once)
The Endless altogether
Lucifer Morningstar
Michael Demiurgos
Mxy
CA Superman/Mandrakk
Yellow Aliens
The Leviathan of Stories
The Empty Hand


I thought Lucifer and Michael were above GEB? My memory is kinda shoddy on them though

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I thought Lucifer and Michael were above GEB? My memory is kinda shoddy on them though


I wouldn't think so

GEB is the great darkness equal to Presence light, as the collateral of their fight would destroy all creation. so they stalemated and merged

There was a scan somewhere that if Spectre was at full potential he could've stopped GEB, which I only view it as pure hyperbole


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@Diesldude...

Sigh, you're wrong again.


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@Diesldude...

Sigh, you're wrong again.


You made false accusations. I asked you to provide proof, and you respond with this?

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Carver’s next reply.


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I just got owned

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Mxy based on feats [i.e. best in comics history].

Based on presentation, unknown, really, until we know more about the other Multiverses/Judges of the Source.


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Hes not. You all were parading around KMC saying that Superman was going to beat the team of Zod, Mongul, Cyborg Superman, etc... and when he did face them, he was getting slaughtered. It's like you parade on possibilities and it never happens.



.....Lol.

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Can't wait to see Damage peel Superman scalp backwards.


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Diana is going to wreck Black Adam. She has consistently been displayed above Herald level.


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Did anyone read Immortal Hulk? It was just verified that ALL of the Hulks except WWH has merged into one being. Thanos gets killed here.


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