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Post Extremis Iron Man suits can act within microseconds.



Good luck proving Dragon Ball exceeds microsecond speeds.


Huh? So you're saying Ironman is faster than Goku?


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I think he kept those powers.


Doubtful.

He lost his original Extremis powers.

As for BE, I had this talk with Jay already... and everything points out he got his system reset to normal.

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His new suit has all of Extremis's abilities anyways.


No.

It doesn't work that way. He needs the virus to operate it properly. Without it, he can barely pilot it and is helluva sloppy.

Read an Iron Man comic.


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Huh? So you're saying Ironman is faster than Goku?



Extremis certainly is.


Unless you can prove Goku exceeds microsecond reaction times.


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Extremis happened 15 years ago, Tony got depowered of it and later became braindead... and he died recently, too.

Just stop.


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Extremis happened 15 years ago, Tony got depowered of it and later became braindead... and he died recently, too.

Just stop.



I said it depended on which Iron Man though.


And want to establish if Carv thinks DB is microsecond range and up, and if he can prove it.


Since this is actually slow by Flash speeds.


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No, but look at what happened after the Superman speed ruling.

We used to have circular pages upon pages of the same boring arguments with the same scans we had all seen 100s of times before, not to mention the usual low-ballling (look! Shadowdragon! Look! Lobo!)

Now it still occurs, but far less now, both in breadth and scope.


Stilt OBV just missed my post; no way he would let it go evil face


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Scaling? If a character was outright said to be moving much faster than the speed of light during combat and people were still able to see him and react to him while he was moving at these speeds, then that means that person is either > or = to that speed. Now if someone that is much faster than light cant even react to another person speed, then that means the person he cant react to is faster. This is common sense. Goku was fighting and moving his limbs so fast that a much faster than light character saw him as standing still in place when he was actually combating. Do you get it. A character that is much faster than light thought Goku was standing still but he was actually punching and kicking and slapping away attacks. Imagine if Zod and Superman was in the air fighting at super speed but Wonder Woman saw an image of Superman and Zod standing on the ground staring at each other, for a while.

Stop debating on things you have no clue about. Why would you ask me to prove that Dypso is the FTL. Everyone knows this. This thread isnt for you.


If you reread my post you will see that it asks a few questions and then if the answer is yes (which you just answered) then provide proof that the characters fight with light speed or faster. You posted this wasteful dribble.

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So off scaling of others so called reaction speeds? Yet we can't scale DD to Superman's reactions?


Prove that these beings who you are scaling off of fight at light speed or beyond. Not travel speed.


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Post Extremis Iron Man suits can act within microseconds.



Good luck proving Dragon Ball exceeds microsecond speeds.


And? Goku doesnt even have to move to hit iron man, he can hit him with his thoughts.


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If you reread my post you will see that it asks a few questions and then if the answer is yes (which you just answered) then provide proof that the characters fight with light speed or faster. You posted this wasteful dribble.


Dyspo being lightspeed in combat is common knowledge to any z fan. watch dbs and stop asking dumb questions

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Im happy alberto and I can agree on something.thumb up


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And? Goku doesnt even have to move to hit iron man, he can hit him with his thoughts.



TK has never shown thar level of power, and Stark has anti-tk counter measures.


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Jirens TK would obliterate Ironman in a femetosecond. And Goku surpassed his TK with his own and owned Jiren with a better, faster, more powerful version


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Stark has anti-tk counter measures


Such as?


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Dyspo being lightspeed in combat is common knowledge to any z fan. watch dbs and stop asking dumb questions



Wrong.


Gohan was able to outfight Goku with Freeza caging him in by the sides. This proves he can't react at light speeds; or backpeddle, but only run in straight predictable lines.



Light speed is alsp far, far beneath the microsecond reaction speeds, or picosecond movement speeds of the Etremis armor.


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You can't even spell the name of the suit and don't know anything of it stick out tongue


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Such as?


Nanotech lets his suit resist being crushed by constantly reforning.


And besides, he moves so fast anyways, at picosecond thrust speeds, that they couldn't lock onto him anyways.



Bottom line, TK was always a gimmick power in Dragon Ball, it was never used to win a fight.


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Dyspo being lightspeed in combat is common knowledge to any z fan. watch dbs and stop asking dumb questions


I'm not a current dB fan. I use to be though. There are simply too many episodes. I saw quite a few episodes from the early 90s, probably more than most people.

I'm asking for proof. Prove that the characters fight, not travel, at faster than light speeds.


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I'm not a current dB fan. I use to be though. There are simply too many episodes. I saw quite a few episodes from the early 90s, probably more than most people.

I'm asking for proof. Prove that the characters fight, not travel, at faster than light speeds.



You won't find it.


Even if you did, light speed is sloooowww by Flash standards.


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Nanotech lets his suit resist being crushed by constantly reforning.


And besides, he moves so fast anyways, at picosecond thrust speeds, that they couldn't lock onto him anyways.



Bottom line, TK was always a gimmick power in Dragon Ball, it was never used to win a fight.


Try backing it up with any scans, instead of writing your own fanfiction.

Iron Fist is the only Marvel character you've ever read.


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Wrong.


Gohan was able to outfight Goku with Freeza caging him in by the sides. This proves he can't react at light speeds; or backpeddle, but only run in straight predictable lines.



Light speed is alsp far, far beneath the microsecond reaction speeds, or picosecond movement speeds of the Etremis armor.


rather then saying he's not light speed could it not be the obvious answer which is that they are also light speed🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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