Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
You sure about that? Because luring anakin and kenobi was his og plan
What does that have to do with Ahsoka and Mauls potential?
May 11th, 2020 09:11 AM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
What does that have to do with Ahsoka and Mauls potential?
The point is maul killing Anakin wasn't a long term plan. He was planning to do it then and there.
May 11th, 2020 09:37 AM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
The point is maul killing Anakin wasn't a long term plan. He was planning to do it then and there.
The plan was to ambush Skywalker and Kenobi yeah.
But When he was asking Ahsoka to join him, that opportunity had gone.
May 11th, 2020 01:12 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
The plan was to ambush Skywalker and Kenobi yeah.
It gets funnier every time I think about it.
Maul's head is so far up his own ass that he legitimately thought he could kill Anakin without a problem... What a gas.
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May 11th, 2020 01:28 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
It gets funnier every time I think about it.
Maul's head is so far up his own ass that he legitimately thought he could kill Anakin without a problem... What a gas.
Well, to be fair, he did KO Windu and Secura by ambushing them with just 2 Death Watch warriors. Even managed to engage them both on his own. And perhaps he himself has grown slightly stronger since then.
May 11th, 2020 01:39 PM
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^he engaged Mace and Aayla for literally one panel, I would have bit more surprised if Mace oneshotted him lol
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May 11th, 2020 01:51 PM
Galan007
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Yeah, and it was the rocket(which Mace was obviously unprepared for) that KO'd him.
No conclusions can be drawn from that 'fight', but Maul diving in head first against an opponent who is undoubtedly above him doesn't surprise me... Especially given Filoni's statement that he tends to be an overconfident dipshit in battle scenarios.
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May 11th, 2020 03:15 PM
Darth Thor
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No what I meant was Mace was ambushed. I.e. Getting a rocket shot at him whilst fighting Maul.
And that An ambush was clearly Mauls plan here as well, as we saw Ahsoka surrounded at the end of Part 1.
So not saying it would have worked, but there is precedent for that working from Mauls POV.
May 11th, 2020 05:14 PM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
but Maul diving in head first against an opponent who is undoubtedly above him doesn't surprise me... Especially given Filoni's statement that he tends to be an overconfident dipshit in battle scenarios.
I think his overconfident weakness kicks in when he feels his opponent is beneath him.
I dont think he would get too cocky against Anakin. At least not going by Mauls line regarding facing Vader alone in Rebels.
May 11th, 2020 05:21 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Anakin is a Dooku stomper in Canon.
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May 11th, 2020 09:42 PM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, and it was the rocket(which Mace was obviously unprepared for) that KO'd him.
No conclusions can be drawn from that 'fight', but Maul diving in head first against an opponent who is undoubtedly above him doesn't surprise me... Especially given Filoni's statement that he tends to be an overconfident dipshit in battle scenarios.
No, I think what thor is saying is that by using external help, he was able to ko them, in spite, of being outclassed by Mace.
So, using similar logic, in his home world, he could use his army to a similar effect vs anakin/kenobi.
May 12th, 2020 10:38 AM
Rockydonovang
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
I think his overconfident weakness kicks in when he feels his opponent is beneath him.
I dont think he would get too cocky against Anakin. At least not going by Mauls line regarding facing Vader alone in Rebels.
Rebels took place after Ahsoka reminded him he was bantha fodder.
May 12th, 2020 10:41 AM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rockydonovang
No, I think what thor is saying is that by using external help, he was able to ko them, in spite, of being outclassed by Mace.
So, using similar logic, in his home world, he could use his army to a similar effect vs anakin/kenobi.
Yeah, I know.
But that assumes Maul wouldn't f*ck it up... Which he almost always does:
https://i.imgur.com/GBpqPv5.jpg
I would also think that if Anakin AND Kenobi went to Mandalore, they'd bring a considerable number of troops with them -- far more, at least, than the fraction of the 501st+Mandalorian rebels that Ahsoka had. /shrug
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May 12th, 2020 11:47 AM
Darth Thor
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, I know.
But that assumes Maul wouldn't f*ck it up... Which he almost always does:
https://i.imgur.com/GBpqPv5.jpg
I would also think that if Anakin AND Kenobi went to Mandalore, they'd bring a considerable number of troops with them -- far more, at least, than the fraction of the 501st+Mandalorian rebels that Ahsoka had. /shrug
Of course hed f*** it up lol
Point is his plan wasnt completely unreasonable on paper. Heck Dooku thought he could still handle Skywalker and Kenobi pretty much alone.
As for the 501st, thats why he lead her into the cave, giving the impression he was hiding alone. But where he gave Ahsoka time to call for back up, im presuming he wouldnt have given Skywalker and Kenobi that opportunity.
May 12th, 2020 01:14 PM
Galan007
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course hed f*** it up lol
Point is his plan wasnt completely unreasonable on paper. Heck Dooku thought he could still handle Skywalker and Kenobi pretty much alone.
As for the 501st, thats why he lead her into the cave, giving the impression he was hiding alone. But where he gave Ahsoka time to call for back up, im presuming he wouldnt have given Skywalker and Kenobi that opportunity.
Right, right. I get where he was coming from. Thing is, if Anakin and Kenobi had shown up(which is what Maul was anticipating at first), they'd be packing the full numbers of Anakin's 501st + the full numbers of Kenobi's 212th + the Mandalorian rebels. Maul would have been absolutely f*cked in that scenario... Hell, he would have been f*cked if just Anakin had showed up with the complete 501st + the Mandalorian rebels.
Ahsoka arriving instead with just a portion of the 501st and the Mandalorian rebels was the best possible scenario for Maul, and it still went south for him.
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May 12th, 2020 01:29 PM
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I can't even imagine if both the full 212th and 501st landed, Maul's forces would be overrun in seconds.
May 12th, 2020 01:55 PM
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And Anakin would obliterate him hahahah
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May 12th, 2020 02:56 PM
Total Warrior
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Maul was just desperate
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May 12th, 2020 07:24 PM
Total Warrior
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Tbf, Maul didn’t know Skywalker very well and he didn’t know he had defeated Dooku, but still
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May 12th, 2020 07:25 PM
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That just goes back to Maul always underestimating his opponents.
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