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Did Dooku let Anakin win/was he holding back?
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Sheev
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Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
I did all the reading, but you have failed to prove how Dooku not knowing that Palpatine's real plan was to tell Anakin to kill Dooku if Dooku had lost the fight because he thought Palpatine's plan was to stop Anakin from delivering the killing blow if he overcame Dooku, means that Dooku threw the fight or was holding back.

I know what the scene was; Anakin and Obi-Wan fight Dooku/ Dooku removes Obi-Wan out of the fight. Anakin is forced to fight Dooku by himself. Anakin demolishes Dooku once he lets go of his Jedi restraint. Palpatine is pleased by Anakin defeating Dooku. Palpatine tells Anakin to kill Dooku. Dooku is shocked by this revelation. Dooku realises that Palpatine's "Don't worry bro if Anakin beats you I'll put my foot down by stopping Anakin from killing you if he wins, like the good old referee that I am hahaha" was a ruse.

The fact that Palpatine lied to Dooku about rescuing Dooku if Dooku lost the fight, isn't a confirmation that Dooku allowed Anakin to win. Galan007, xPRIMEx and Sheev are on the money on how they explained it to you:

I think you just need to let this go and move on.

Common sense and logical deduction are not his forte, obviously.

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Darth Thor
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Yeah im sure Dooku allowed Anakin to chop his hands off and then decapitate him.

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BUT DOOKU DIDN'T KNOW THAT PALPATINE WAS GOING TO ALLOW ANAKIN TO KILL HIM!!!

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juggernaut74
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Originally posted by YousufKhan1212
I did all the reading, but you have failed to prove how Dooku not knowing that Palpatine's real plan was to tell Anakin to kill Dooku if Dooku had lost the fight because he thought Palpatine's plan was to stop Anakin from delivering the killing blow if he overcame Dooku, means that Dooku threw the fight or was holding back.

I know what the scene was; Anakin and Obi-Wan fight Dooku/ Dooku removes Obi-Wan out of the fight. Anakin is forced to fight Dooku by himself. Anakin demolishes Dooku once he lets go of his Jedi restraint. Palpatine is pleased by Anakin defeating Dooku. Palpatine tells Anakin to kill Dooku. Dooku is shocked by this revelation. Dooku realises that Palpatine's "Don't worry bro if Anakin beats you I'll put my foot down by stopping Anakin from killing you if he wins, like the good old referee that I am hahaha" was a ruse.

The fact that Palpatine lied to Dooku about rescuing Dooku if Dooku lost the fight, isn't a confirmation that Dooku allowed Anakin to win. Galan007, xPRIMEx and Sheev are on the money on how they explained it to you:

Canon sources say that Dooku was playing his part in a ruse to lure Anakin to the Dark Side that is fact.

Sidious told Dooku that he'd help him if things went wrong which he obviously never did. Dooku didn't know he was fighting for his life until the very end.

This is basic stuff guys for gods sake.

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Sheev
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The only thing "basic" is your crayon-eating level of intelligence.

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juggernaut74
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Don't resort to insults again it shows weakness.

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You're on a boat on your own.

Goodluck with that.[/B]

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Originally posted by juggernaut74
Canon sources say that Dooku was playing his part in a ruse to lure Anakin to the Dark Side that is fact.

Sidious told Dooku that he'd help him if things went wrong which he obviously never did. Dooku didn't know he was fighting for his life until the very end.

This is basic stuff guys for gods sake.

Dooku was playing his part in a ruse to lure Anakin to the Dark Side... In the context that Palpatine made up a lie that he was going to stop Anakin from killing him if Anakin wins the fight. The fact that Dooku didn't realise that Palpatine was not going to stop Anakin from killing Dooku doesn't prove that Dooku was holding back. None of this is proves that Dooku allowed Anakin to win.

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juggernaut74
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I don't think anyone was supposed to win. The point was to get Anakin to the Dark Side.

Had he known he was fighting for his life the fight may have ended differently.

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May 20th, 2020 04:32 PM

Darth Thor
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Originally posted by juggernaut74
I don't think anyone was supposed to win. The point was to get Anakin to the Dark Side.

Had he known he was fighting for his life the fight may have ended differently.

So did Dooku allow Anakin to chop his arms off?

May 20th, 2020 04:40 PM

juggernaut74
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They say there's no such thing as a dumb question but this makes me wonder.

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Darth Thor
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There is however such thing as a rhetorical question. But this one seems to have flown over your head.

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May 20th, 2020 10:29 PM

juggernaut74
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Apparently you haven't been paying attention.

What do you think I meant when I said he realized too late he was fighting for his life?

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Darth Thor
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And Why was it too late?

May 21st, 2020 05:36 PM

xPRIMEx
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Dooku realized he was fighting for his life BEFORE Anakin used his rage, and well before he had his hands cut off. It was too late because by Anakin was too powerful then, not because his hands were cut off. Dooku was simply outmatched.

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