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Rockydonovang
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Originally posted by Galan007
[B]Yeah, there are quite a few threads like this.

But excluding the Mortis Gods, and characters with one-off/"moment of need" amps(like 'omni-Jedi' Rey), I think a current list would look something like this:

1.) RoS Palpatine: Kylo stated that he was more powerful than anyone he had ever encountered(which automatically scales him above Luke/Snoke)]

TBF, Kylo didn't actually encounter TLJ Luke. Given Luke's potential is higher than sidious's, it's possible he outgrew him in the interim years...

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Originally posted by Rockydonovang
We discuss the quote here:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...=1#post17172567

You might notice how Thor doesn't even bother addressing my rebuttal.

I wonder why....


Didn't Filoni also say that only Vader or Palpatine could take her down by Rebels, or something along those lines?

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TBF, Kylo didn't actually encounter TLJ Luke. Given Luke's potential is higher than sidious's, it's possible he outgrew him in the interim years...
Luke cut himself off from the Force after Kylo's betrayal, so I doubt his power would have grown much(if at all at all) during those interim years.


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Rockydonovang
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Didn't Filoni also say that only Vader or Palpatine could take her down by Rebels, or something along those lines?

IRRC, it was disputed that, the context of the quote included maul. I ended up agreeing but I don't remember why.

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Ah I see

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Luke cut himself off from the Force after Kylo's betrayal, so I doubt his power would have grown much(if at all at all) during those interim years.
You reckon he became stronger than he was before after opening up to the force again?


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You reckon he became stronger than he was before after opening up to the force again?
Doubt it.

Luke cut himself off from the Force entirely after Kylo's betrayal(which took place about 6 years before TFA/TLJ), and in his own words, went to the most unfindable place in the galaxy to die.

And it's not like he was doing any real soul-searching to try and further his spiritual enlightenment or w/e(like Kenobi did when he went to Tatooine), because when Rey found Luke, he was still emotionally broken and very much 'anti-Jedi'.


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I see.

Just a thought- but isnt it possible that Luke might have chosen to cut himself off from the force well after Kylo's betrayal? So perhaps he wasnt cut off from it for the entire 6 years??

Maybe?


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Galan007
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I don't think so.

In Secrets of the Jedi, Luke implies that he cut himself off from the Force right after Kylo's betrayal, and remained that way for "years":
https://i.imgur.com/lEfGKI2.jpg

And in The Rise of Kylo Ren, Luke's students were no longer able to sense him either:
https://i.imgur.com/rd7Vkd5.jpg
"You didn't sense our teacher or anyone else. Neither did I. Normally the whole Force sings with Master Skywalker's presence..."

So yeah, I think Luke went into 'Force-hiding' pretty much immediately after Kylo turned on him, and stayed that way until TLJ.


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I don't think so.

In Secrets of the Jedi, Luke implies that he cut himself off from the Force right after Kylo's betrayal, and remained that way for "years":
https://i.imgur.com/lEfGKI2.jpg

And in The Rise of Kylo Ren, Luke's students were no longer able to sense him either:
https://i.imgur.com/rd7Vkd5.jpg
"You didn't sense our teacher or anyone else. Neither did I. Normally the whole Force sings with Master Skywalker's presence..."

So yeah, I think Luke went into 'Force-hiding' pretty much immediately after Kylo turned on him, and stayed that way until TLJ.

Why in the world would those two pursue kylo if they thought he killed luke. They realize they're hopefully outclassed right.

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Galan007
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Yeah, they fully believed Kylo had killed Luke(who was obviously WAAAY more powerful than them), and Kylo himself casually owned them in the same issue. Why in the f*ck they still thought they'd be able to defeat him is beyond me.


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