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The police chief one I take as legit and my opinion has not changed. This should be put down, but peacefully. There's plenty of innocent people and children who would be out in harms way people go in guns blazing.

Raz guy comes off as little more than a opportunistic thug.


In their defense, communistic communities have popped up over the years and many worked effectively for years.

It's just that this one is particularly toxic. Perhaps because of the things you've mentioned...Raz (not our Raz) may be another David Koresh.


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The police chief one I take as legit and my opinion has not changed. This should be put down, but peacefully. There's plenty of innocent people and children who would be out in harms way people go in guns blazing.

Raz guy comes off as little more than a opportunistic thug.
I agree with everything in this post.


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In their defense, communistic communities have popped up over the years and many worked effectively for years.

It's just that this one is particularly toxic. Perhaps because of the things you've mentioned...Raz (not our Raz) may be another David Koresh.


I don't think either narrative that it's either a hell-hole or a nirvana is correct. Seems more like there's elements of both depending on location.


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I don't think either narrative that it's either a hell-hole or a nirvana is correct. Seems more like there's elements of both depending on location.
To be entirely fair, it's not like a lot of the stuff there is any worse than a lot of other U.S. cities, it's just that it sounds considerably worse than the rest of Seattle.


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I agree with everything in this post.


If people refuse to peacefully leave what should be done?


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If people refuse to peacefully leave what should be done?
Approach any violence as a direct threat and deal with those being hostile as insurgents — but not to heighten aggression whilst there are innocents in the area, or in any way risk innocent life being lost, as that would defeat the point of putting it down.


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So, as long as the people who refuse to leave stay near innocent people, the police should just leave them alone?


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So, as long as the people who refuse to leave stay near innocent people, the police should just leave them alone?
I didn't say that.

Efforts to evacuate innocents should be made first. See how much retaliation there is, gauge the threat level. Take it from there.

I'm not a SWAT commander, do what you gotta do but don't go in guns blazing if there are regular people everywhere. Murdering tonnes of people to save people isn't exactly productive.


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So, as long as the people who refuse to leave stay near innocent people, the police should just leave them alone?


Yeah, probably. Especially if they try to take hostages or there is a risk to do.

I'd be scared of hurting innocent people. Honestly don't know the best approach.


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Yeah, probably. Especially if they try to take hostages or there is a risk to do.

I'd be scared of hurting innocent people. Honestly don't know the best approach.
I get that, but if you won't go in and shut it down because you're worried about people dying, then you're just going to let more people in there die, and for it to become more run-down and dangerous.


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I get that, but if you won't go in and shut it down because you're worried about people dying, then you're just going to let more people in there die, and for it to become more run-down and dangerous.


Could they announce that unarmed evacuators are going in and they are only offering save passage to those who want to leave?

Damn, that still wouldn't help those that are psychologically abused and threatened to stay.


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Could they announce that unarmed evacuators are going in and they are only offering save passage to those who want to leave?

Damn, that still wouldn't help those that are psychologically abused and threatened to stay.
Also dangerous as we know there are armed militants within the CHOP, who are extremely hostile to any form of authority. They may mostly be greasy Antifa types, but give a man a gun and he thinks he's God.


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I didn't say that.

Efforts to evacuate innocents should be made first. See how much retaliation there is, gauge the threat level. Take it from there.

I'm not a SWAT commander, do what you gotta do but don't go in guns blazing if there are regular people everywhere. Murdering tonnes of people to save people isn't exactly productive.


So force the innocent people out of their homes first and then come back for the occupiers.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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So force the innocent people out of their homes first and then come back for the occupiers.
Weird, you keep extrapolating all kinds of crazy things out of my posts.

What do you think should be done?


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Weird, you keep extrapolating all kinds of crazy things out of my posts.

What do you think should be done?


How else would the police get the innocent people out of the area if they don't want to leave their homes?

I'm merely pointing out the possible consequences of your tactics.


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How else would the police get the innocent people out of the area if they don't want to leave their homes?

I'm merely pointing out the possible consequences of your tactics.
What are your tactics, and how are they better? Bit useless pointing out how someone's tactics aren't good when you aren't positing an alternative.


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I hope they keep doing what they've been doing, nothing. that way the rest of the country can see what happens when you let terrorists get their way.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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So it's okay to let people keep dying, getting raped, robbed, assaulted, etc.?

Wow, sorry, but that's a shit plan. "Let the terrorists get what they want to own the terrorists." Lmao.


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Then I say the cops go in there and clear them out and anyone who resists puts their fate in whatever god they believe in

i hope it's a powerful god, not some little b*tch I'm talking Mystra level


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So it's okay to let people keep dying, getting raped, robbed, assaulted, etc.?

Wow, sorry, but that's a shit plan. "Let the terrorists get what they want to own the terrorists." Lmao.


It's what they wanted and have allowed to happen. let them serve as an example so the rest of the country doesn't make the same mistake.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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