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Old Man Whirly!
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Again you're showing you don't understand the difference between simple genes and complex multi-gene traits.

Let me explain again.

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If single genes can be distributed unevenly across populations, multiple traits can too.

The declaration above, is wrong.

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If single genes can be distributed unevenly across populations, multiple traits can too.

The declaration above, is wrong.

If you understood Genetics even really dumbed down genetics you' get why.

Again you're showing you don't understand the difference between simple genes and complex multi-gene traits.

Let me explain again.

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Sep 14th, 2020 02:05 PM

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Yeah, that statement is wrong and makes no distinction between single genes and multi gene traits.

I can in fact rank populations based on genetics :

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Sep 14th, 2020 02:09 PM

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You are using a simple single Trait which fits simple mendalian crosses.

Again you're showing you don't understand the difference between simple genes and complex multi-gene traits.

Let me explain again.

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Again, the paper you're citing doesn't make exemption for "single genes" or multiple ones.

It just says I can't rank populations using genetics, which is factually wrong.

Sep 14th, 2020 02:12 PM

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Again, the paper you're citing doesn't make exemption for "single genes" or multiple ones.

It just says I can't rank populations using genetics, which is factually wrong.

I'm not citing a paper...

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Please read the Scientific position of most geneticists.

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Whirly, stop spamming.

It says I can't rank populations with genetics, it doesn't' specify wether I can use single genes or multiple genes.

They made a statement that was flat out wrong.

Sep 14th, 2020 02:16 PM

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Whirly, stop spamming.

It says I can't rank populations with genetics, it doesn't' specify wether I can use single genes or multiple genes.

They made a statement that was flat out wrong.

Triggered by American geneticists general consensus.

Sep 14th, 2020 02:16 PM

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I doubt a scientific consensus agreed on every bit of wording on that paper.

for example the idea of "racial purity" is bogus, so that we agree. That human populations are diverse and can't be best defined by race is correct. The idea that race is purely socially constructed, is factually wrong. The idea that you can't rank human populations via genetics is factually wrong seen as I can do that on average when it comes to a variety of traits.

so far no scientists have debunked the idea that genes relating to intelligence are more prevalent in some racial groups than others.

Sep 14th, 2020 02:29 PM

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I doubt a scientific consensus agreed on every bit of wording on that paper.

for example the idea of "racial purity" is bogus, so that we agree. That human populations are diverse and can't be best defined by race is correct. The idea that race is purely socially constructed, is factually wrong. The idea that you can't rank human populations via genetics is factually wrong seen as I can do that on average when it comes to a variety of traits.

so far no scientists have debunked the idea that genes relating to intelligence are more prevalent in some racial groups than others.

of course they do it's a consensus from the main body for American Geneticists. That simplistic misrepresentation has no Scientific basis.

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Yes whirly, I agree that there is no such thing as racial purity. The alt right don't even argue that these days. I also agree that there is overlap.

However, that populations can'r be ranked on average using genetics with traits that are genetic in nature, is factually wrong.

So either american genealogists are shit
The claim is political in nature
or not every scientist agreed on the specific wording of this press release

I'm going with option 3.

Sep 14th, 2020 02:41 PM

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anyway we haven't even come remotely close to debunking IQ and race. So I guess I'll leave your concessions at the door.

Sep 14th, 2020 02:43 PM

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Quite triggered by Scientific opinion of American Geneticists to your views. laughing out loud

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All of that is fine whirly.

The only missfact is that you can't use genetics to show differences in populations. So either not every scientist agreed on that specific point, or they are all wrong. I chose the first.

Sep 14th, 2020 03:16 PM

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All of that is fine whirly.

The only missfact is that you can't use genetics to show differences in populations. So either not every scientist agreed on that specific point, or they are all wrong. I chose the first.

it comes from the society they belong too. If you are part of a society and you wish to challenge an announcement like this you are given the opportunity prior to release and generally on a position as serious as this if you disagreed with the general consensus of Science this follows you would be asked to leave.

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Please read the Scientific position of most geneticists.

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Just so we are sure who you are disagreeing with.

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Pro Tip: When the people defending state violence against black people also defend the discredited notion that black people are less intelligent and more violent than other races, they out themselves and each other as racists.

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Pro Tip: When the people defending state violence against black people also defend the discredited notion that black people are less intelligent and more violent than other races, they out themselves and each other as racists.

They do indeed.

Sep 14th, 2020 04:08 PM

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Well black people are factually more violent and less intelligent then average.

So I don't know where you're agreeing with notion that this is discredited. It's not anywhere close to being discredited.

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Well black people are factually more violent and less intelegent then average.

So I don't know where you're agreeing with notion that this is discredited. It's not anywhere close to being discredited.

"intelligent". smile

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