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I would lose the fight but I disagree.
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How does DB combat speed compare to combat speed in comics?
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Who here said Napa would be Thanos?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Who here said Napa would be Thanos?
Nappa is pretty got darn powerful. I dont see why the laugh though.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordGod
How does DB combat speed compare to combat speed in comics?
They use it all the damn time and are able to sustain that speed, unlike the comic book superheroes. That's the main difference.
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Goku as a kid tanked this without a scratch. This would be a high showing for most metas.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Nappa is pretty got darn powerful. I dont see why the laugh though.
Thanos would one shot Nappa
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos would one shot Nappa
Why?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos would one shot Nappa
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Sep 10th, 2020 06:29 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Why?
What do you mean why??
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BrolyBlack
What do you mean why??
Tell me why Thanos would beat Nappa. Better word... how?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Thanos would one shot Nappa
He would need to connect first.
Thanos is a statue to Nappa.
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What happens once kid Goku blitz to Emma and hit her with a blast equivalent to a Nuke? Explain please.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by LordGod
How does DB combat speed compare to combat speed in comics?
DB doesn't have Superman or flash level combat speed
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Sep 10th, 2020 07:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Sensui
If he has better feats why couldn't he Phil? Ignoring crossovers where Venom is Superman Level and what not is there some Arbitrary Rule where company's scale to the same levels or is it just a battleboard terminology to level the playing field and make nice between franchises?
Also Galactus gets stronger the more he eats so he has a variable powerlevel too.
There is no average and there never was. There is no eyeball between two very different fictional continuties, you compare feats and statements, relative character portrayals and unfortunately sh*t posting on battle boards. You are once again ignoring feats you don't like. Kyle has low showings just like Goku say needing to put on a protective suit to survive the inner core of Earth in DBS yet I don't hold that against Goku nor would bring it up in a battle of best vs best.
Superman varies from literally comic to comic, arc to arc, so any version you present in any thread unless specified to be from a single writer is going to be a Frankenstein version of composite feats that is hardly any different from compiling a respect thread.
In a general portrayal MM may have heat vision that reaches one trillion degrees celsius temperatures not found anywhere except in the Big Bang
In a general portrayal WW may be at a level where her lasso is stopping Multiversal beings like the Phantom Stranger.
Or she maybe struggling against a single bullet shot by a kid with ak-47.
There is no average Phil and there never was.
Just everyone's seperate head cannon and cherry picked feats. Thats all.
There are no averages and I will continue to repeat this until the cows come home to you. You're entire argument is based on battle board terminology that doesn't exist. These characters exist to do the impossible or probable week after week and all we're doing here collectively is picking them out of their fictional universes and comparing them to one another. I honestly think it should be a case by case basis. And it wouldn't be crazy if Black Adam could do that if he scales near Superman class beings who have shattered reality, warped entire time lines, and made the universe go funky town like Superman vs Kal-L during Infinite Crisis.
Just recently Bendis had Superman contemplate destroying the Phantom Zone, an infinite dimension above the multiverse in the sphere of the gods. Something tells me Bendis would have probably made Superman use his fists just like he did on the World Forger and his creation mate.
That is true and it goes both ways because the western comic heroes and villains aren't in manga either to get the benefit of less inconsistency.
What does herald level mean to you? I keep asking these questions and yet no one answers? what does this battle board terminology actually mean to you? Bran said planetary level and admitted that's his head cannon. I say it simply means characters that are top tier heroes and that feats can range from street level to universe level. How do you define these tiers?
Probably not most of the time since she has been shown to take out Multiversal beings so the question is can Freeza? Namek Saga or Golden? Please back this up with Feats or Statements and not powerscaling please Phil.
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm bringing up low showing and high showings in the same example like I did with Flash and other characters like Thor. I still want to see where you place being like Flash in DBZ and other characters I've mentioned in this discussion like Krona with the emotional entities or the Upside Down Man.
And why is everyone ignoring the relative power escalation of Iron Man and how he is still held to just one tier and not allowed to progress up?
Just to reiterate your positions:
- Kyle can contain the Big Bang, so it's quite possible he is more powerful than Galactus, depending on how many planets the latter has eaten
- most of the time Kyle can "probably" not solo a million Wonder Women
- Black Adam's punches can destroy Universes and surpass the big bang
- Martian Manhunter can tank a moon-busting attack with a smile because .. his heat vision is close to as hot as the big bang!
- Wonder Woman can tank a moon-busting attack with a smile because .. she lassoed the Phantom Stranger Also averages are imaginary, because she has low showings.
Good to know
Could Wonder Woman also surpass the Big Bang with a punch? Mongul? Kalibak?
How about Iron Man? I'm sure -- seeing as how even in the Silver Age he was as strong as Thor, he has no doubt reached the level where Tony can easily do so. Everybody who has read comics can tell you that.
Look -- Sensui, you're making me laugh, truly, but this has to stop at some point. Screaming "there's no such thing as averages" when there's plenty of people perfectly capable and knowledgeable enough to understand and approximate them as thus, doesn't say anything about the averages themselves -- but about your inability [or lack of perspective/knowledge] to understand them yourself.
You do you, while we try to have a rational discussion and come to a consensus
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Tell me why Thanos would beat Nappa. Better word... how?
By disintegrating him.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He would need to connect first.
Thanos is a statue to Nappa.
According to Carvatar kid Goku could solo the DC universe, dont be one of those.
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I would love for Carver to actually prove how Nappa beat Thanos, c'mon carv your time to shine
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