[Holiday Tourney - Semi-Finals] Darksaint vs Mr Mind
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Darksaint:
- Absorbing Man
- Max Lord
- X-O Manowar
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Mr Mind:
- Animal Man
- Mera
- Blue Beetle (Jaime)
Battlefield will be a merger of non-populated DC/Marvel Earth but with no tech other than what you have on you/what participants can create [so there's no Baxter Building, no Batcave, no Watchtower etc.].
Prep: You can build stuff, put up defenses, prepare offense etc. You can run around the globe, you can teleport, you can fly, in that time. But you can't affect the actual battlefield - once the match starts it resets so you only have what you carried/created on you. When the minute is up you go through a portal which takes you to the reset battlefield.
Standard tourney rules: 0.5km starting distance. No BFR. No CIS. Posters are in control.
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“Perhaps this is the ultimate freedom. The freedom to leave.”
Morrison’s Animal Man is one of the most powerful hero out there. Imagine all the best attributes of different animals, real or fictional being bestowed upon one man.
He has unique connection to the morphogenic field and the red. Which gives him connection to all animals in history of dc earth, extinct or not.
Animal man has meta powers to interact with comic panels, he erased ultraman right into overvoid.
Overvoid is THE highest existence of dc. Yellow Aliens are the highest level beings that literally represent the editors of dc company. Yellow aliens can un-draw characters into white blank pages. Erase the characters concept completely.
The shaman animal master said the yellow aliens are just manifestation of Animal Man’s own power.
Animal man has travelled to comic book limbo and met his own author.
Antagon was a force of nature that was referred to as dark side of god, someone who even superman couldn’t take care of.
Antagon is a cosmic vampire whose mere presence is bending and breaking time. If Antagon would’ve succeeded the entire creation would be destroyed. His casual attacks came from the extreme of gods self contradiction.
Animal Man defeated such powerful being, by becoming one with the morphogenic field. He combined with other animal masters defeated Antagon by accomplishing the recreation of the source through pure imagination (reality warping).
He along with help of Vixen and Tristess created an entire universe.
Animal Man can create portal to other realms.
He can shift his consciousness into other people thus controlling them.
He can control viruses, plague all living beings with dream of the red by transferring their consciousness outside of creation to the red.
He can channel strength of species that reside at the edge of black holes. He also once copied superman or krypto’s heat vision. Once he copy a power it’s his permanently. So these are all powers he can use in this battle
Sun eater eats suns and solar systems for breakfast-dark phoenix style, the same sun eater who cost parallax his life. Sun eater is legion of superheroes level threat who can easily defeat any heralds level beings in both marvel and dc. (Sun eaters back in pre-crisis level can destroy galaxies btw). Due to Sun Eater, Animal Man can enter space B, a space time continuum fragment where space and time means nothing, where instant transportation is possible. He has used the speed of sun eater to travel outside the creation https://imgur.com/a/REz69Re
he can easily speed blitz anybody using instant transportation and space b in this battle.
In rotworld, Animal Man is so OP he matched speed of a weakened flash by stacking speed of cockroaches and ants. https://imgur.com/a/huTVm8u
he is fast, much much faster than any of darksaint’s team can react.
Blue Beetle will take on X-O Manowar and deal with him easily, X-O is basically a budget version of Iron Man
BB durability alone is impressive
A rookie blue beetle that wield his power the first time, has withstood the full out attack of green lantern with his shield https://imgur.com/a/gIHVs
he’s so fast he can appear at multiple places at the same time, traveling all around the globe, .5 milisecond difference, this shows his combat speed, flash level really. What he does is actually slow down time (time dilation) https://imgur.com/a/6sCqw
and even if Max Lord can turns BB brain into toilet, it’s still irrelevant, Scarab can take over and keep fighting. Jaime is what stops the scarab from fully unleashing, incapacitating Jaime is useless. https://imgur.com/a/Zv4l0
Now moves on to Animal Man, he has TP after he copied the power of Bwanna beast, another one who will render Max Lord obsolete. https://imgur.com/a/M0HWUFT
and let’s be honest, for a telepath Max isn’t all that. Comparing to high end telepaths from marvel he is quite weak, took him lonnnng time with preparation and endless blood supply to mindwipe the earth, which almost killed him from bleeding. His drawback from using TP is huge.
she is fast enough to react to flash and suck out all the water in his body simultaneously using water to take out 2 green lanterns ring. In one page she took out a flash and 2 green lanterns. https://imgur.com/a/IHrSWo7
Jaime can blow up the earth if he wants to leaving Scarab the only one alive, but we gonna give Darksaint a chance and not go for overkill https://i.imgur.com/D0ilBIW.png
Animal Man blasts Max Lord with kryptonian heat vision. (please log in to view the image)
Max is completely useless. Buddy and Jaime can resist his TP easily
if they somehow survive, Mera drowns them with tidal wave, X-O is the only one who can fly, so we single X-O out and make quick work of him, while Absorbing Man is desperately trying to get back, Max Lord is suffocating at the bottom of the ocean. Or being trapped in the water bubble, or already becoming ashes from HV or nukes. Mera is someone who kicks asses on the entire justice league, which include supes, flash, 2 green lanterns, wonder woman, cyborg and freaking batman. (justice league v3 24, highly recommend) https://imgur.com/a/CvTnSsz
the strategy is to separate the 3 from the get go and pick them off one by one. X-O is the most mobile but the weakest of the 3, his offensive output is trash so we deal with him first. We throw absorbing man with tidal wave then water tornado him further away, it will take him a while to get back, he is a slow moving brick. Creel is a jobber of highest degree. He is a watered down version of Parasite. No joke, Parasite can drain powers by just standing there, Creel needs to touch someone to do so, in this battle his slow ass is not touching anybody.
In the meantime Animal Man makes endless clones of himself naruto style, then scatters around battle field just to make it fun. You will never take him down that way. This is an ability he learned from copying bacterias https://imgur.com/a/uHIJCOK
Now let’s talk about max lord, human durability and reaction time, he’d get drowned before he can use tp on anybody. Or Mera/blue beetle could just snap his neck if they are feeling feisty
here’s the thing about Creel, if he has great power source to absorb from, he could be a threat. But in this battle there is no quantum bands, no cosmic cube, no mjolnir, no gamma radiation for him to absorb. He is limited by the materials within his reach. More importantly Creel is a dumbass, last I remember CIS is not off in this tourney.
this is the same dork who fought Daredevil for an entire issue then lost in diamond form (Daredevil V1 360) https://imgur.com/a/vQXKtkp
imagine blue beetle or mera losing to nightwing…yeah…I can’t either. I can post Creel gets handled by low meta and streets all day but we got better things to do. BB releases some kind of gas for Creel to absorb, game over.
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“Perhaps this is the ultimate freedom. The freedom to leave.”
Last edited by Philosophía on Dec 18th, 2020 at 01:59 PM
Holiday Tourney
OP
Happy Holidays!
So, I have been forced to use Absorbing Man (Creel), and X-O Manowar(Aric), and thanks to my own brilliant initiative in a minimal prep fight, Maxwell Lord.
Let’s see...I have one (1!!!) minute of prep. Time starts now.
I immediately use Creel, and touch Max’s gun, which can penetrate Scarab armour: https://imgur.com/a/YGcfX
Creel can take on the properties of the machines he touches - as he says himself, it’s not as if there are rules to this: https://i.postimg.cc/jjRndDYy/Ship.jpg
(in case anyone is wondering, Cap Atom KOd Fire who Max was simultaneously controlling at the time, hence Max faltering - his shield did NOT give out). If needed, I can post multiple images of what Booster Gold’s FF can do, if people want.
Match starts. Now, judges, I admit - I am going to be supremely lazy. EVERYTHING THAT MR MIND SAYS WILL COME TRUE.
Wha…? Is DS throwing in the towel?
No. For you see, everything that Mr Mind has typed will occur - only, it will be in his team’s minds. Call it the Fantomex Strategy, if you will. Everything he thinks he is doing, in actual fact, would be a mental manipulation done by Max.
He did not, by the way, need to use his ice buckets or blood banks to achieve these feats.
Here he is with Magog, forcing him to kill himself and at the same time, making every bystander think it was Captain Atom (and at the SAME time, making all the video footage look like Cap killed him): https://imgur.com/a/6H4Eq https://imgur.com/a/rA02X
Sure, Mr Mind (hehe) may THINK he is enacting all of his brilliant plans to defeat me (and I really do think they are brilliant, judges, I really do), but he in actual fact would be attacking his own team. None of his team would be able to see through it, and the only one who MAY be able to, Blue Beetle, was ALSO fooled by Max.
Oh I'm sure he has had loads of stuff done during his one minute of prep. Let me guess - hydro shields from Mera? Bacteria duplication from Buddy? Shields from Jaime?
Max tells them all to power down. If it helps you, judges, to picture it, imagine it’s part of Max’s misdirect. Or if you want, imagine it’s done via explicit command, either verbal or mental. Like with two random cops: https://imgur.com/a/ehce4
Btw, this was when Aric JUST got the suit. And it could already protect him by regrowing his hand.
Aric has done this before - he bonded his armour to Gafti, his best friend, when he was dying (it of course, healed him right back up): https://i.postimg.cc/brm6YZJJ/RCO014-2.jpg
Global telepathy. Not even KOd. Bonus feat: he also has a nifty teleporter
Summary
With my prep, I activate Booster Gold level forcefields, become a Beetle-shotting gun,and get naked.
Match starts, Mr Mind powers down (thanks to Max). I entomb his best offense and crush her (with Aric’s armour). Shoot his Beetle in the head (with Creel), and command Animal Man to kill himself (with Max, who is now boosted by Aric’s armour).
And this all assumes he doesn’t just kill his own team with infighting, when they believe they are fighting me. Really, I could solo with Max behind his Booster FF, but I thought it would be fun to get the others involved.
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“Perhaps this is the ultimate freedom. The freedom to leave.”
That is precisely what I thought when I read Mr Mind’s OP. So many errors! Judges, once we move past the respect thread dump, and actually look at his ‘strategy’, it is clear to see that I should be crowned the winner of this match. For your convenience, I will summarise the main points of our openers. His tactics
No prep, and then he...assumes there is CIS on (it is off), and that BFR is on (it is off) then starts with a nuke from BB. Animal Man copies a Kryptonian, uses HV on Max, and Mera uses a tidal wave on all three just in case. Then...Animal Man clones himself en masse, and after that I am not quite sure what happens. Also, he assumes Creel can only copy...materials? The winning strategy, by Team Lord of Warcrush
(Still working on that team name, but):
My prep involves Max throwing up a shield that is equal to Booster’s around him and a naked Aric. So...Trigon level: https://imgur.com/ktsbNMr
The X-O Manowar armour is able to chill in suns and black holes. Creel is a living gun.
Match starts, Animal Man copies a Kryptonian and HVs Mera in half (thinking he’s HVing Max). As shown in my scans, Kara thought she was fighting an evil JLA, when in fact she was fighting the JLI. Here is a good representation: (please log in to view the image)
Then clones himself. Except, he is now amping Max: (please log in to view the image)
Note, btw, in all of Mr Mind’s scans of his team’s supposed ‘telepathic resistance’, they’re all against no-namers. Moreover, he vastly underestimated what I was doing; judges, please note: I am NOT wrestling with him mentally. That is not what Max does - it is more like misdirection here. His team wouldn’t even know they were fighting me. And even if they had evidence that they were: (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image)
AND again, with a Who’s Who of the DCU: (please log in to view the image)
Put it this way - my scans above are to show the KIND of mental manipulation Max does. It isn’t going in with a sledgehammer, fighting you on the astral plane until the stronger telepath dominates and wins through sheer power/skill. No, it is the misdirect, that RELIES on the target’s strength - people convincing themselves. As shown above. Hell, let’s show it some more:
Batman and Kara: https://imgur.com/a/1qTaD
And an entire platoon of the Creature Commandos (this wasn’t the famous mindwipe, btw - as seen in my scan, Max only mindwiped them when they showed up to work): https://i.postimg.cc/P5tT6mdB/RCO012-1462164487.jpg
This is all done as he is merrily running around the DCU, by the way. True multitasking!
As for Jaime? I am NOT shutting his brain off, or turning it into a toilet. Oh no, I want the Jaime part of his mind fully functioning. Judges, please note MrMind’s scans - Jaime is FAMOUS for ignoring what his Scarab tells him to do in battle(usually when it’s overkill lol), and doing what HE thinks is correct. In this case, even if the Scarab screams at him that he’s killing his teammates - he will override it and fight on.
Until he gets oneshotted, as shown in my scans.
Mera? Firstly...where did all this water come from? Are we suddenly fighting on the open ocean? Am mystified where MrMind got it from. But that’s by the by (however, judges, question this!![b]).
[b]Summary
That initial nuke from Jaime? Judges, even IF he does get it off, none of his team have shields up (read his OP). He’s essentially killed himself, whilst my team (the X-O Manowar armour chills in suns and black holes, and Max is behind a Booster shield, and Creel...will just become the nuke IF it ) are safe and happy.
Note, too, that his scan doesn’t actually show BB letting off a nuke, which is a recurring theme with BB. Jaime is constantly overriding the suggestions of the Scarab - a lot of his more powerful ‘showings’ are actually just hype.
Regardless of the nuke, Jaime gets chopped in half by Kryptonian HV. Which can also chop (waterless) Mera in half. Or Mera drains both her teammates, before getting crushed by me.
By the by, all that talk about Jaime resisting TP?
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HOLDONAMINUTE DS! I hear the judges cry. Max mindwiped him in the initial mindwipe, when he had buckets of ice and blood banks and a bathtub!
Not true. Here he is just prior, explicitly doing it: (please log in to view the image)
Jaime was also affected by the mindwipe Max did. The SCARAB wasn’t affected, as it was an artificial intelligence, but as MrMind’s scan helpfully shows, Jaime doesn’t always listen to him.
This isn’t a 3v3 match, judges. It’s a one-sided bloodbath.
First thing first stop pandering to the judges when you are being disingenuous yourself.
Dorksaint like I expected is a rules stickler, just the way he is.
Ironic thing is the he doesn’t understand the rules himself.
You cannot interact with your teammate during prep, that’s the rule.
so your strategy is thrown out of the window from the get go, Creel will not be touching any gun during prep time.
I don’t think you understand, this fight is 500 meters away WITH 1 MIN PREP,
how stupid does Jaime has to be to just stand there and take a gunshot to the head.
Especially when he already knew what max’s gun can do to him.
And context, bud.. context! Batman can beat superman in comics, but this is a FORUM FIGHT.
Why don’t you tell everyone blue beetle was shot down by medusa. That’s the only reason Max was able to capture him https://imgur.com/a/x2BRl99
what’s even funnier is that IT WAS STATED ON PANEL, Jaime remembers everything,
DS’s little plan completely rely on this buffoon called Max,
who was getting his hand cut up,
runing away from ted cord,
and eventually got his ass saved by huntress. (example of max getting owned by streets are countless btw) https://imgur.com/a/NEtOyUG
Max is completely useless in a random encounter (bu bubu the one minute prep!!!)
imagine dorksaint yelling that in his nerdy voice.
Max has no tech no resources just his gun, max is human reaction,
just like you and me, now count to 60 seconds, that’s how long max has to prepare his death
Now remember that 1 min prep? Ooofff, With cis off?
Meaning my team is coming at full force, sun eater animal man ready, scarab destroying the earth from the get go.
Mera can just stand there waving her pompoms.
No but seriously Mera can literally be 500 meters away sucking the waters out of their bodies until they turn mummies
I love how DS just ignore my entire feats showing with a wave of your hand.
You can’t ignore reality, my friend.
The reason for my respect thread dump and not talking strategy too much in OP, is because I wanna show feats so judges know what my team is capable of.
Now do you see the strategy in my post 2? This is my PLAN A. Or you wanna ignore that too?
Play your little game.
At this point you might as well throw DS entire strategy into the toilet because he doesn’t even understand what’s going on.
His entire plan is thwarted, it’s based on misdirection of max , but max will be one-shotted when the bell ring.
So is CIS on or off? If CIS off why does it matter what Jaime think? STOP CONTRADICTING YOURSELF! CIS is off Scarab blows up the planet game over, see how easy you make it for me? https://i.imgur.com/D0ilBIW.png
CIS off Buddy uses Suneater’s power to blow up the planet, or better yet make the sun go supernova and destroy the solar system (as sun eater has done before) gameover https://imgur.com/a/zWO21cr
The power that can make Parallax shitting his pants https://imgur.com/a/imQ02Rt
Who say anything about bfr? Use your head, I will finish your team, I can use tidal wave and tornado to throw 2 of them away first, so I can separate them and pick them off one by one, is there a rule that I cannot throw my opponents out of certain distance? Or are you just rambling
And here comes Carl “getting owned by street” Creel
gambit https://imgur.com/a/UcVH36K
Elektra https://imgur.com/a/6YRI0kY
spidey and some random skrull could kick his ass till next Sunday https://imgur.com/a/VkWS20C
he’s so dumb, he literally got defeated by a bag of soap because he thought it was cocaine https://imgur.com/a/UZocbG1
he doesn’t recover quickly from minor physical attacks like concrete https://imgur.com/a/4rRgyS4
to defeat him you just have to throw different chemicals on him, different substances mixture that can be explosive. Bb has that in the bag, it would be no problem for the scarab to replicate what spidey did here https://imgur.com/a/1mXFuUW
for example:
Hydrogen peroxide/acetic acid mixtures. May explode upon heating.
Hydrogen peroxide/sulfuric acid mixtures. May spontaneously detonate.
Hydrogen peroxide/acetone mixtures when heated in the presence of an acid. May cause explosions.
this has nothing to do with cis, Creel’s ability let him absorb anything he touches, good or bad.
This part won’t be taken away just because all of sudden he’s “not stupid” anymore.
Before you yell “it’s cis off, low showing don’t count!” Creel’s entire history is jobbing feats, to take 95 percent of his feats away is just not fair comparison.
In other word Creel’s “jobbiness” transcend character induced stupidity. This fukin guy is DS’s muscle lmao.
Uhhhhhh….fight is on earth… Mera has 1 min to summon the ocean/lake/river/damn near her, she can summon tidal wave to cover the entire continent, why does it matter if the ocean is near by? Unless we fighting in desert now? you should’ve specify beforehand.
Nope, if BB destroy the earth, your team other than X-O will not survive, and his fragile armor would crumble in a minute from my supreme firepowers,
Creel would be floating in space, and BB will just blast him into the sun. Max would for sure be dead from lack of oxygen.
Buddy and BB would be fine, Buddy would be going in and out of space b with his sun eater power just chilling. And this is only PLAN B.
Again, CIS off
Now X-O Manowar isn’t the black hole dipping center of sun chilling durability freak ds wanted you to believe.
When he was a rookie random bullets can rattle him, when BB put on his suit the first time he was fighting green lantern https://imgur.com/a/gLexlxh
Remember judges, battle start, Absorbing man will be taken out immediately
Mera summons a tidal wave with whatever river/ocean/lake nearby
And instant drown Creel, when there are enough water around him,
he cannot ignore it but force to absorb the water and become water himself laughing out loud GAME OVER https://imgur.com/a/ICshbOF
if aquarium water volume can do this to him, oh god imagine what Mera can do.
Bell rings, Creel is instantly oneshotted
Creel’s automatic absorption will be his ultimate downfall, there are enough materials on this earth that will make him vulnerable,
500m starting distance really doesn’t suit the slow moving brick well. https://imgur.com/a/sfCRW1Z
wasp can hurt him with random energy blast and turn him back to human, while hank knocks him around, wasp straight up knocks him out https://ibb.co/GVgJjfR https://ibb.co/wcWGfMx
martian vision is so powerful it can instantly disintegrate white martian,
his vision is so hot it turned sand into glass and trap general zod in it. The melting point of sand is 3000F. https://imgur.com/a/1CqfHhn
if there’s any danger she can just bubble her team up
her internal hydrokinesis allows her to suck water out of opponent from afar.
She can suck water out of back manta who has a suit better sealed than x-o manowar. https://imgur.com/Ck5p8eO
she literally drains three tanks and destroy them lmao,
this is perfect for beating x-o manowar. She can drain waters from any machines, including his cheap suit https://imgur.com/a/63GHo
she can sense the proximity of water which means she will suck out the water of ds team from 500 meters away no matter if they are hiding https://imgur.com/EWi2YB3
her combat speed is fast enough to dodge lightning and appear as blur closing distance, the starting distance is nothing to her https://imgur.com/gallery/QCFDloH
she can control tidal wave and attack multiple targets specifically, so it’s not just aoe but specific target https://imgur.com/a/AvKxi
move on to BB
he’s capable of counter the phasing of speed force users (evil future bart allen) with his energy bubble, none of the ds team can even touch him https://imgur.com/a/7z5lZES
Scarab’s spidey sense is so strong he can sense the presence of freaking phantom stranger before PS arrives. There’s nowhere for Darksaint to run https://imgur.com/UkGOhKw
BB can create kryptonite radiation, he can create vulnerable metarials/gas for Creel to absorb easily https://imgur.com/Qbrwfsv
on to animal man
buddy can regen at will https://imgur.com/a/QMB3e4I
he can already amp himself to flash level speed, not to mention sun eater speed, like I mention before
now he amps himself with the power of fly, the world goes into slomo,
reaction time multiplied by 10, DS team is literally statue to him https://imgur.com/a/zEMaR2i
couple with strength to knockout gorilla grodd
Buddy (in n52, judges, all dc characters are p52/n52 composite)
has used the strength of Gorilla to knockout gorilla grodd (same gorilla grodd that has taken blows from the flash) https://imgur.com/a/Ez8M7Ew
Max won’t have time to use his TP, this is similar to superman vs professor x in a cis off environment. Straight spite
Animal Man has millions of animals/insect he can stack,
light moves 670,616,629 mph, cockroaches move 3mph, there are at least 10 billions cockroaches in the world,
which make it 300,000,0000 mph, that’s 5 times faster than the speed of light with cockroaches alone
Now strength of the elephant, elephant can carry up to 1 ton, there are half a million elephant in this world.
That’s half a million ton right there, with other animals added couple million tons strength easily
Now imagine stacking the strength of animals in the universe,
which he can do, he can reach billions tons easily, he has access to all the animals in the universe.
Trillions upon trillions including freaking sun eater which he already has. https://imgur.com/a/Mq9gu
(and these can be animals from dcu, not this neutral earth, remember all buddy’s previous abilities transfer here per rule)
He has 1 min to stack it all up, easy peasy. This give him time to come out max capacity
Now with ftl speed and billions tons strength, bell ring, he takes their heads off before they can react. Cis off baby!
Before you ask, yes this is literally how buddy’s power works.
If he stacks one lion he has the strength and speed of one lion, if he stacks 2 lions he has strength and speed of 2 lions so on and so forth, straight forward shit.
Remember buddy already matched the speed of rot world flash with cockroaches and ants alone,
flash was half his speed during that time, but initially he was ftl at the beginning of the arc,
so buddy was at least 1/2 speed of light, but here he has millions to billions more animals to copy speed from,
he will be ftl from the get go.
All thanks to his power to draw from the red.
I haven’t even gotten to Buddy’s meta nature yet, it would be unfair.
Stradegy is laid out during 1 min prep
Buddy taps into sun eater speed (like he did) and other animals instantly reaching ftl,
then taps into the strength of the animals to reach billions to trillions tons level strength, not to mention he can fly
Mera summons tidal wave from nearby ocean/water source,
She has one minute, that is plenty of time to draw up a tidal wave to cover the entire continent and she has the power to do so.
BB charging up his blast
Bell rings
1. Buddy ftl blitz everyone before they can react, max dies instantly before he can tp anyone
(he moved hundreds of light centuries in an instant for fuk sake https://imgur.com/a/QACVA)
2. Mera drowns the entire landscape, my team would be in the air, and suck out all DS team’s waters out of their body instantly.
A drowning Creel would have no chance but absorb himself into water. Game over for Creel
Mera shown she can suck out waters from machines, she literally suck out Aric’s suit make it malfunction, or suck out blood of Aric himself.
3. If X-O Manowar somehow survive (0.1 percent chance),
if he decides to turn intangible, BB can see him, and BB outclasses him everywhere.
Mera shoots a water beam at him into stratosphere (like she did Arthur),
while Buddy turn the water beam electric frying his suit, BB using planet leveling blast to blast him into kingdom come
If Aric decided to abandon his suit in the beginning he would get oneshotted,
none of DS’s shield can withstand the power of Suneater Animal Man, or strength of the entire animal species in the universe.
None of their shields can withstand BB’s blasts that can take down red lantern or yellow lantern starro.
None of their shields can deal with Mera’s internal hydrokinesis
DS’s stradegy is so bad, he misunderstood his team cannot interact during prep, he wouldn’t have a chance to turn Creel into Max’s gun,
because they would be dead before they can think thanks to flash level Buddy
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Final Post
Oof. A bit more to digest, congratulations if you guys have made it this far. But to accuse, moi, of missing context and misunderstanding rules? I think MrMind is just trying to throw everything including the kitchen sink at me, in the hopes something sticks. Once more, judges, I will summarise MrMind’s entire post:
DS misunderstands the rules, no interaction between his characters is allowed!
He missed out a ton of context as to why Max could shoot BB!
Animal Man is the shitz, look at him stacking speed and Sun Eaters!
Creel is a jobber! Look at his low showings!
X-O Manowar has low showings!
That about covers it, I think. Oh, he also posted two (2!) new strategies that are markedly different from his OP:
Match starts, Animal Man is a Sun Eater and BB is destroying the entire Earth, whilst Mera dehydrates my team
Plan B: BB destroys the entire Earth.
Right, let’s get to it.
I think MrMind misunderstands the rules, lol. We are allowed to interact with each other, but we can’t mess with the other team during prep. So Max can’t just mindwhammy his team during that 1 min - but my team can touch themselves as much as they want. Read Phildo’s post again. Contestants are not interacting. I am NOT interacting with Mind. If you want clarity, PM Phildo or something.
Max having context (Medusa, the 12 hours etc)? Irrelevant. I never argued that Max captures BB - my posts were to show he had a gun that, in Jaime’s own words: (please log in to view the image)
It doesn’t kill him, sure - but I never argued that (read my posts again). It puts him out of commission in one shot. Read that scan again - no other context was given for Max being able to hurt Scarab, apart from it being just that damn powerful. Creel has all the time in the world to...shoot him some more, if needed. Max didn’t need special prep to do so - he just had that gun which he carries around (and which he used against Krypto). All that talk about Medusa and needing 12 hours/special equipment is completely unnecessary. As to why he would take a gunshot to the head in the first place? Well, Max’s misdirection makes him unaware he is being shot at. Simples.
Next point: Animal Man stacking speed/Sun-Eaters. I thought in his OP, Animal Man was, yup: (please log in to view the image)
So which is it? Remember judges, I am using mindwhammying on his team - so is he using Kryptonians, or using Sun-Eaters, or using speedy animals? Note, Mind hasn’t shown Animal Man sitting there sucking in all these animals at the same time, btw. One or two, maybe? Three? Maybe even four animals at once. Read his OP again, judges:
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He sadly doesn’t clone until AFTER the match starts. By which time, it is sadly far too late.
Just as an aside - I never allowed Sun Eaters, lol. Reread my post that MrMind so helpfully quoted. If he can misunderstand, misremember and misrepresent easily verifiable information like Phildo’s rules and my posts - what else is he hiding?.
Answer: amongst literally everything he posts, the fact that him entering Space B is literal self-BFR, so he forfeits the match, lmao.
CIS off, by the way, doesn’t mean character is off. Jaime has CIS off, true, but that doesn’t mean he’s suddenly turning into the Scarab. Poster IS in control, however, but MrMind never argued that. Feats of MrMind resisting ANY kind of TP?
Joking, of course, but my scans specifically showed Jaime being mindwhammied by Max. Interesting that MrMind never showed MERA resisting this - what happens if she ‘accidentally’ drains Animal Man? Would be a shame.
As for the X-O Manowar showings, note how his art and scans are VERY different to mine. Note how MrMind doesn’t...doesn’t actually show any rebuttals to my scans, just tries to pile on low showings (which I can easily do for his characters - but note how I am taking the high ground here). Low showings don’t matter, PIS and CIS is off. As MrMind himself says: (please log in to view the image)
Finally, he chops and changes, and now suddenly has two different strategies. Mera isn’t summoning water from nowhere (note how he suddenly doesn’t have scans for this), and now Mera is attempting to drain me. Animal Man isn’t using HV anymore, he’s now..trying to destroy the entire solar system? BB isn’t dropping a nuke, he’s now trying to destroy the Earth. Big talk for my supposedly poor little old team made up of buffoons, jobbing losers and useless suits, I think this shows just how highly he actually thinks of me, lol.
Summary
So let’s revisit the whole thing.
In my one minute of prep, Creel becomes a living gun that oneshot BB, Max erects his Booster-level FF (well, it’s not Booster level - it LITERALLY IS Booster’s), and Aric commands the armour to fly off and get ready, so he is naked.
Match starts, Max uses misdirect (as he did against the entire world) and MrMind’s team thinks they’re doing one thing, when they’re actually doing another.
Creel shoots BB in the head (as Max did) as Max is doing this
The invisible X-O Manowar armour flies at high speed (speeds to escape supernovas) at Mera, and entombs and crushes her, cutting her off from her powers (as Max is standing there, misdirecting). Exactly like how Black Manta did.
During this ENTIRE time, MrMind’s team (who have shown zero defence against attacks of this type will think they are winning. My team can just make his team kill themselves.
His prep consists of multiplying himself (which amps me), although originally I thought his prep was drawing on Kryptonians - no wait, I thought it was getting speedy animals - no wait, maybe he’s getting a Sun Eater? All very confusing, and all very useless.
His shields are proven, and can stand up to the best of the DCU’s attacks from some of their most powerful villains. His mental control is so thorough, even when confronted with physical evidence, people will ignore it - and it is strengthened by other minds.
Creel has become machinery (despite what people who don’t read comics will lead you to believe), and CAN touch whoever and whatever he wants: https://i.postimg.cc/BjwnmQ6v/Ship.jpg
More specifically, the gun (which he has access to) which oneshot Jaime.
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