Trump wasted a shit ton of money on that stupid wall. A metric shit ton. Now biden wants to spend money and now Republicans want to pretend they care about deficits. Remember when Mexico was going to pay for that wall?
immigration isn't a bad thing. That's probably a fundamental difference in the thinking between conservatives and liberals.
There are plenty of resources in our country to help people fleeing unlivable situations in their own countries. (Can you imagine how desperate you would have to be to undertake walking to another country with nothing more than the clothes on your back?)
The allocation of ownership of resources in this country is completely screwed up.
I'm glad we are returning to a more open policy. It's another harmful Trump policy he is reversing. (You can't really be upset that Trump ruled by executive order, and biden is now reversing course in the same way).
It isn't a bad thing if you only view it with a narrow set of parameters. Do you think that the inevitable ghettoisation of different racial groups is beneficial to the social harmony of a city/state/country? Do you think that propagating a perception amongst one population, regardless of whether they are right or wrong in that perception, that they are being "forced out" by an "invasion" of immigrants is good for a country?
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Yeah, immigration has helped Canada significantly with their economy. We had a very strict immigration policy in the early 20th century and we had to open up the borders to allow the country to grow.
With birth rates declining significantly, Canada needs immigration to make it up the difference and keep the economy going.
So they have a controlled immigration strategy that brings in people to bolster their economy by filling gaps in their workforce.
Essentially the complete opposite of either the Republican or Democrat strategies in the US which are both politically motivated rather than economically.
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Elites don't want to be deposed themselves, and so will fill in lower positions with people they think are competent, yet malleable.
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Never let anyone else define you. Don't be a jerk just to be a jerk, but if you are expressing your true inner feelings and beliefs, or at least trying to express that inner child, and everyone gets pissed off about it, never NEVER apologize for it. Let them think what they want, let them define you in their narrow little minds while they suppress every last piece of them just to keep a friend that never liked them for themselves in the first place.
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I see y'all are enjoying getting your PizzaBoiBun-Tunnels flooded by KING JOSIAH BEEZLEBUB-BITCHBOI-BAREBACKS-BABIES-RIGHT-OUT-THE-WOMB-BIDEN. As for me:
Dunno, I didn't read the whole thing yet, but right from the start there's a few great things, we do need immigration reform, we do need to address the causes of why people come here en mass and better border screening can't hurt.
Now will any of that get done in a meaningful fashion, I can't say.
Yeah, it's privilege alright. But not white privilege.
It's the privilege of kind people, making a heartwarming gesture with something they crafted with their own two hands.
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Funny, for some reason I read the title as "Bernie Sanders", which is why I posted it here.
How strange.
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Ummm no...most immigration decisions are decided by the public service. I would assume none of them are elites. There is a various ways to be allowed into the country...from skilled work, to family sponerships and refugee status.
But decisions are decided by the public sector employees.
I worked in the public sector, they're as dirty as they come.
But they aren't the ones hiring. My point is you typically find a ton of "people of color" in the lower and middle management tiers, and things look a whole lot whiter at the top. I doubt that's an accident.
Or look at the Democratic party elite. Very very white, no accident.
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What is the correct solution for that though, is it draconian immigration measures as favored by the far right? I feel like that loses a lot of value in a country by itself. I do agree with you that the Democrats don’t do enough, but at least they pay lip service to some of the things hast should be done, like giving foreign aid to make the home countries of these immigrants safer and preventing the need for immigration in the first place, and when you do have immigrants or asylum seekers to treat them with respect as humans and do try to integrate them as best as you can. Additionally there should be an actual feasible way to get legal immigration, which is alms impossible for Latin Americans to the US.
This is in addition to the fact someone else stated, that a lot of “immigration” isn’t even immigration when the borders are more open, but rather temporary or seasonal workers from Mexico that hab be he intention to go back, but nowadays are often prevented by the stricter border measures.
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