We're on the same wavelength on the main, a and b are basically what ive been saying throughout this thread. Either DKs power level is the issue or its PIS.
As for C. Superboy Prime is 100% used as a plot device. However said plot device tool is primarily his retcon punch which has limited offensive use as touched on the past couple pages. Beyond that hes presented as a Superman+ (i.e a stronger than normal Kryptnian) So option b) would still apply
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Last edited by GalacticStorm on May 8th, 2021 at 01:26 AM
Bullshit, the conversation was about “omniscient” you even typed in “omniscient” in your post. You only made this correction because it was pointed out to you. A correction is usually made immediately not 2 hours after someone points it out. No wonder you’re reading comprehension is
No comic book character will display total omniscience within a story even if theyre said by canon to possess a degree of omniscience as then the story would be very dull. No one would truly be a threat removing all drama and engagement from the plot.
Dr Manhattan however has displayed an impressive level of omniscience as ive touched on page 8 of this thread:
Sufficient omniscience that if Darkest Knight truly possessed the full Dr M power-set then he should have been able to foresee Superboy Primes attacks and take action ahead of time removing him as a threat before he became a threat.
You failed as a debator to provide conclusive evidence to substantiate your assertions. Qwerty had to step in and do your job for you and even then the only part that changed was that SBP was changing reality (albeit it in a random uncontrolled manner) by hitting Darkest Knights creations and Dk himself)
Nothing else has. The battle was still PIS and Superboy Prime is still either dead and his souls in the afterlife, or hes comatose and dreaming hes in Earth Prime.
Either way the fact that he got taken off the playing field by a impact blast shows how improbable it would be that he could have claimed all of Darkest Knights power as per SBP's pondering.
Their battle didnt leave Darkest Knight on the brink of death having unleashed all of his power to stop SBP. (If it had then yeah its still feasible SBP might have been able to lay claim to DKs power) Instead Darkest Knight walked away and had an epic battle with Wonder Woman during which he still believed he had the power to kill the Hands:
So SBP clearly was conclusively not on Darkest Knights level.
Their battle was Plot Induced Stupidity so that he could have his redemptive moment.
As Leo agrees, if it wasnt PIS then during their battle one could argue that DK was hampered in some way. This 2nd point isnt conclusive so dont go crying. Its just exploring an alternative option to PIS.
Consider how Darkest Knights battle with Perpetua went. He won, but he never dominated her throughout. It was evenly matched until the later stages. However as Death Metal 7 touches on, his ultimate plan was to take out all of The Hands. Multiple beings on Perpetuas level. That would require a mammoth amount of power.
One could argue that Darkest Knight was so dead set on bringing his evil realities into permanency and killing the hands that he didnt want to divert any energy away from those tasks so he freed up limited power to deal with SBP and even tried to manipulate him and talk him out of fighting him by playing to his ego and saying theyre alike, tempting him by offering to create him a world with his loved ones:
"I want darkness in everything. And you? What do you want anymore Superboy? I can give it to you. Just stand aside. I prefer not to expend the energy to kill you"
"You keep fighting me pointlessly and the hands will be stronger than us both....or you surrender and i will kill the Hands"
Ultimately Superboy Prime took the choice out of Darkest Knights hand by striking him so hard that the power was unleashed...enough to kill/incapacitate Superboy Prime. But SBP forcing that power expenditure meant that the evil 52 planets were lost.
Exactly. But a no limits fallacy is in effect. It allows people to forget several events that happened to Superboy Prime in earlier stories. There were those that were far less powerful than Doctor M that pushed Superboy Prime on a physical level. If he was this unbeatable character how then was he sent into the Speedforce? There was a period in time that he didn't exist as well, but yeah we need to acknowledge the punches.
You’re a failure debater period. QWERTY made you realize that prime isn’t just a heightened kryptonian you were incorrectly pushing like a cheap corner pharmacist. If you dig a little deeper, something you never do, you would see the post he quoted was Galan’s and galan was replying to me in agreement to my post. That’s your style, you never read the comic, come up with a view that agrees with your biases against dc based on superficial out of context scans in the ownage threads. A I’ll I’ve seen from GA that he’s a stubborn carverlite level debater. You make child like argument and never accept other’s view even when the freaking comic itself tells you that you were wrong.
I showed you a panel in the comic where prime himself might as well be directly telling you that are wrong and you still won’t accept it. Arguing with you is like arguing with a girl on her period. If DK came out here and say he tried everything, you still won’t believe him. You’re not a debater, you just show up on “that time of the month” and argue just for the sake of arguing.