Its basic and isnt a secure line of argument.
A's more powerful than B, C defeated A, therefore C can automatically beat B to.
Does not work like that.
Darkest Knight for all of his abilities did nothing against Prime bar engage him in fisticuffs and use basic energy blasts. There was zero high level abilities utilized by DK against Prime in that fight bar the kind of tactics you'd see in a typical Avengers battle.
Whether that was character induced stupidity (look up the forum rules)or he was tired after his battle with Perpetua and operating at a reduced capacity. Who knows? What we do know is he didnt fight in a manner befitting someone of his alleged power level.
What does that mean?
You cant therefore say Darkest Knights capable of wiping out a multiverse, Superboy Prime defeated Darkest Knight, 616 is just a universe which means a Superboy Prime auto-win!
That is ABC logic at its finest. Its basic and flawed logically.
You have to consider context i.e what happened before the battle, were there any factors boosting or hindering any characters abilities during the battle, were both characters fighting to the best of their ability or was CIS/PIS(Look up forum rules) a factor?
A comic book battle and a forum battle are two very different things. In a forum battle PIS/CIS are not factors. We look at a characters demonstrated abilities and then do a walkthrough of a hypothetical all out battle. DK with all of that Dr Manhattan power and Crisis energy without having just battled Perpetua and using his abilities to their fullest extent would wipe the floor with Superboy Prime 10/10.
Stop with the ABC logic. Some of you are grown men. You're too intelligent for this.
Its like Magneto fighting Wolverine on panel but instead of using the full range of his abilities he settles for fisticuffs and occasionally swatting Wolverine with a nearby iron bar.
Wolverine understandably whups Magneto.
Then from that point on everyone who Magneto has ever defeated Wolverine is given an auto-win over them.
all these assumptions.
If you go by the pictures of perpetua and DK fighting, they were basically shoving planets in each other’s throats but if you go by the words it was affecting all of reality.
I rather see that than 2 guys with their finger tips on their temples and bright circles around them to demonstrate a non physical attack.
I want action and dialog that explains what is really going on instead of two guys staring at each other.
DK had repaired the planetary disruption and gained back access to the crises energy and was back at full power.
Now let’s get to the fight. You said dk was affected by pis and engaged in a fistfight?
That is proof enough it wasn’t a physical fist fight. It was the same type of attack that DK was using on Perpetua. It wasn’t just a fist fight lol. DK was doing everything to kill prime and he could not.
Now why can’t superboy just take everyone’s power and destroy everything? Actually he doesn’t have to. He does this to eternity or the LT And Ends Marvel.
1) The Perpetua vs DK fight is not the same as the DK vs SuperboyPrime fight. Dont attempt to equate them to fit your narrative. DK vs Perpetua involved energy manipulation and the use of celestial bodies as well as supporting narration that it involved more than just fisticuffs. You have no such confirmation in the Superboy vs DK fight. Nothing but your interpretation.
2) Please show a statement (not one of your assumptions based on DKs actions) that confirms that after defeating Perpetua, DK regained his full power?
3) DK had the abilities of space/time manipulation, reality manipulation, matter manipulation, energy absorption and he engaged SBP in a slugfest alongside some basic energy blasts. There is zero artistic depiction or written statement (be that narration or character comment) that confirms any use of anything beyond simple energy fueled fisticuffs. Therefore you have zero justification to assert anything different.
Given DKs abilities, the fact that he didnt employ them to deal with Superboy Prime indicates either Character Induced Stupidity (CIS) or it indicates that he was operating at reduced capacity following battling Perpetua, then exerting power repairing planetary disruption. All immediately before battling Superboy.
A comic book battle is different to a forum battle. I reiterate...a comic battle is different to a forum battle.
NO PIS/CIS.
Full range of officially confirmed abilities are brought to the table (zero fan assumptions/unverified interpretations) and then we talk through a hypothetical all out brawl.
Kryptonians arent immortal, theyre just long lived.
Eternity utilizes chronal manipulation and ages SBP to dust.
Eternity traps SBP in a time-loop at the end of the universal timeline where there are no stars and laughs as SBP eventually burns through his energy reserves and then flicks him out of existence
Or Eternity simply turns all the universes stars into red suns and laughs at SBP becoming about as useful as Magikarp
Eternity absorbs all solar energy out of SBPs body laughs at his emaciated form and then flicks him out of existence
People say that SBP cant be affected by reality warping himself. If thats true then thats fine, Eternity just manipulates the laws of reality around him. Eternity changes the laws of physics so that flight and physical traversal are an impossibility for SBP. He then leaves SBP Prime to age over eons whilst in a permanent stationary position
Shazam and Black Adam were recently able to take out SBP with a combined magic attack showing he has a resistance to magic and not an immunity. Eternity is the largest concentration of mystical energy within Marvel. Eternity would casually Alakazam that ass.
Response to1) show me where perpetua and DK’s fight involved energy manipulation? And then show me how it is different than what was shown and stated in the dk vs prime fight. You’re talking about celestial bodies and I showed you a scan of realities breaking when prime attacked DK. That doesn’t happen in a fist fight.
2) bro the only one making assumptions is you and they are bordering alberto level.
Read the arc, this is the last time I’m going to do you’re research for you. (please log in to view the image)
The hero’s had destabilized a earth and disrupted DK’s access to the crises energy and he repaired it before his encounter with prime.
3) All these powers that you admit he has, plus Batman level smarts and you still think he would engage in a fist fight ? His hands and body is full of crises energy that affects reality with every blow but we’re going to assume it’s a physical fight.
Oh and prime’s punches aren’t purely physical either.
You talk of how SBP attacked DK and realities were affected. Of course they were. DK was the power who was creating and maintaining those realities so it stands to reason that attacking DK would have a knock on effect. For example if Jean Grey was maintaining a psionic illusion in peoples minds and she was attacked and had to divert her power that illusion would shatter as a knock on effect.
All stands to reason. See how its all easily explained without any supposition or assumptions? We know DKs power was behind the realities and DK was attacked thereby affecting what his power was maintaining.
2) That answer does not address my point. Youre just reiterating what happened i.e DK battled Perpetua then repaired damage created by the heroes. So youre doing exactly what i said, instead of presenting artistic depiction or conclusive statement verifying DK regained his power, youre looking at the fact that he repaired the planet and making the assumption that means he regained his power. That isnt stated anywhere. All we know is that he battled Perpetua, then repaired a planet. Tiring work. Could explain his showing against SBP
3) All these powers and yet whilst he engaged in energy manipulation and matter manipulation against Perpetua, all we saw depicted on panel against SBP was energy fuelled fisticuffs. So either CIS or he was arguably operating at reduced capacity after battling Perpetua, restoring damage done by the heroes then battling SBP all in close succession
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Do not let the stans overhype these characters. You can all read.
Superboy Prime and his limited power set is not taking out a high level cosmic, reality warper or magic practitioner who use the full range of their abilities and dont handicap themselves by engaging in a slugfest.
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May 3rd, 2021 06:10 AM
all these assumptions. 
