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Order these guys by striking

Giant Man
Hulk
Thor With Mjolnir
Kurse

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Is Thor allowed to amp his strike with lightning? If so it will be a choice between Thor and Giant Man for first place, followed by Hulk then Kurse.

If Thor isn't allowed to amp, it will be:

1. Giant Man
2. Hulk
3. Thor
4. Kurse

And the only reason Kurse is so low is because we don't really have that much feats for him as far as pure striking strength goes. I'm tempted to place him above Hulk except that he doesn't have any feats to match the Leviathan punch.


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Thor w. Hammer
Hulk
Giant man
Kurse


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Originally posted by FrothByte
Is Thor allowed to amp his strike with lightning? If so it will be a choice between Thor and Giant Man for first place, followed by Hulk then Kurse.

If Thor isn't allowed to amp, it will be:

1. Giant Man
2. Hulk
3. Thor
4. Kurse

And the only reason Kurse is so low is because we don't really have that much feats for him as far as pure striking strength goes. I'm tempted to place him above Hulk except that he doesn't have any feats to match the Leviathan punch.
Yes Thor can amp his strikes

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Even amping with Mjolnir I'd put Scott first. He easily punched out a Leviathan and squished Cull Obsidian. Thor wouldn't hit harder, he'd just have lightning coming out of the hammer on top of the physical force.

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As of Endgame:


Thor
Giant Man
Hulk
Kurse


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Yes Thor can amp his strikes


Then the ranking will be:

1. Thor
2. Giant Man
3. Hulk
4. Kurse

As impressive as Giantman punching that leviathan was, I don't quite see him being able to match the destructive AOE's of Thor when he amps his shots.


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You guys think Thor can physically strike harder than kurse?


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Originally posted by FrothByte
Then the ranking will be:

1. Thor
2. Giant Man
3. Hulk
4. Kurse

As impressive as Giantman punching that leviathan was, I don't quite see him being able to match the destructive AOE's of Thor when he amps his shots.
Giantman punching leviathan? You mean antman as a giant?


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Why is everyone putting Kurse below Hulk? Hulk has never manhandled Thor the way Kurse did or swatted Mjolnir away like a paper plane.

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Why is everyone putting Kurse below Hulk? Hulk has never manhandled Thor the way Kurse did or swatted Mjolnir away like a paper plane.


Because those can easily be attributed to skill, speed or agility. On the other hand, Kurse doesn't have a single feat to compare to the leviathan or Surtur punch.


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Because those can easily be attributed to skill, speed or agility. On the other hand, Kurse doesn't have a single feat to compare to the leviathan or Surtur punch.
The Surtur punch was weak. Hulk's weight and downward momentum did most of the work. Since follow up punches didn't make Surtur flinch in the slightest.

The leviathan punch was weak AF too.
The punch did almost nothing to the leviathan. 99% of the feat is Hulk pushing the leviathan by bracing after the initial punch. Guess what? That still didn't completely stop its momentum (just redirected it).

Lol at agility and skill having anything to do with casual back smacking Mjolnir away.

Speed is a huge factor of striking power.


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I agree. The world would be a much better place.


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Because those can easily be attributed to skill, speed or agility. On the other hand, Kurse doesn't have a single feat to compare to the leviathan or Surtur punch.


Kurse was clearly not faster or more agile and never desplayed any particular H2H skill. Swatting Mjolnir away is a better striking feat than anything Hulk has done tbh.

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Kurse was clearly not faster or more agile and never desplayed any particular H2H skill. Swatting Mjolnir away is a better striking feat than anything Hulk has done tbh.


Thor could usually dance around Hulk and avoid majority of his hits. He couldn't do so against Kurse. Kurse was able to block and even dodge Thor's blows. That shows both skill and speed. Kurse was even able to hit Thor despite his back being turned when Thor tried to bullrush him.

He also slapped Mjolnir to redirect its path. He didn't punch it head on to stop its momentum like Hulk did to the Leviathan.


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Thor could usually dance around Hulk and avoid majority of his hits. He couldn't do so against Kurse. Kurse was able to block and even dodge Thor's blows. That shows both skill and speed. Kurse was even able to hit Thor despite his back being turned when Thor tried to bullrush him.

He also slapped Mjolnir to redirect its path. He didn't punch it head on to stop its momentum like Hulk did to the Leviathan.


Kurse didn't really give Thor a chance to do anything by overwhelming him from the start with his superior physical power, but yes, Kurse is probably more skilled than Hulk because he's not a retarded rage monster. He didn't use much skill against Thor, however.

Slapping Mjolnir away is a much better feat. When Thor threw Mjolnir at Hulk he was completely overpowered and sent flying with the mallet.

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Kurse didn't really give Thor a chance to do anything by overwhelming him from the start with his superior physical power, but yes, Kurse is probably more skilled than Hulk because he's not a retarded rage monster. He didn't use much skill against Thor, however.

Slapping Mjolnir away is a much better feat. When Thor threw Mjolnir at Hulk he was completely overpowered and sent flying with the mallet.


Hulk tried to catch it, which put the enchantment on him and he wasn't deemed worthy. Kurse hit it though with a close fist/backhand so he just hit a really tough flying hammer.

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Kurse didn't really give Thor a chance to do anything by overwhelming him from the start with his superior physical power, but yes, Kurse is probably more skilled than Hulk because he's not a retarded rage monster. He didn't use much skill against Thor, however.

Slapping Mjolnir away is a much better feat. When Thor threw Mjolnir at Hulk he was completely overpowered and sent flying with the mallet.


Rewatch the Kurse vs. Thor fight. Kurse backfists Thor as Thor charges him from the back. Then Kurse blocks and catches Thor's first punch in mid air. At some point after Thor knocks Kurse back with a punch, Kurse ducks underneath Thor's follow-up punch with a bob and weave and lateral movement that would make Mike Tyson proud.

All of these take skill, precision, and very fast reflexes, especially considering that Thor is pretty skilled himself. Which makes Kurse a lot more skilled than Hulk who has trouble even hitting Thor, nevermind actually avoiding hits from Thor.

As for Mjolnir, Hulk grabbed Mjolnir and tried to wield it. He failed because he wasn't worthy. Kurse never tried to wield Mjolnir, simply slapped it away to redirect its trajectory. And slapping away a 50 pound hammer is nowhere close to requiring the same striking power as stopping a leviathan with a single direct punch.


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The same thing that happened to Hulk happened to Quicksilver in Age of Ultron. He wasn't worthy and got snatched in slow-motion. So that's proof strength doesn't matter when it comes to the worthy enchantment. And also proof that the Kurse swipe can't be compared because he didn't grab the hammer.

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