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Originally posted by TheHulkster
The use of the term "particularly" implies a small need to breathe.



He didn't understand the extent of his own powers here.


This story happens in the middle of the Kryptonite X arc, where green K gas in Cyborg Supermans fortress was filtered through The Eradicator and transformed into a chemical that initially powered Superman up to full power, and resulted in him gradually taking in far more energy than he could burn off until his muscles swelled like The Hulk and his heat vision switch was stuck to "on".

The crossover with Icon happens before his powers grow beyond his ability to control, but after he gets lost in space thanks to Lobo and he spends months wandering aimlessly without needing to breath.



Since previously, Superman drowned at the bottom of the sea fighting with Aquaman, he was rightly questioning exactly where his new limits were.


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You know a lot of obscure Superman feats for someone who doesn't like Superman. stick out tongue


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1 Flying in space means shit when plenty of characters who need to breathe did that. Comics nonsense stuff like that

2,4
This
https://ibb.co/qybmvNC

And this
https://i.ibb.co/7jpnss1/RCO022-1469008071.jpg
https://ibb.co/gTS6vNv

Also forum rules, my child-intelligence friend

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It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.


3 Its phucking byrne era Superman, who later got a upgrade and then you have the scan the topic posted

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1 Flying in space means shit when plenty of characters who need to breathe did that. Comics nonsense stuff like that

2,4
This
https://ibb.co/qybmvNC

And this
https://i.ibb.co/7jpnss1/RCO022-1469008071.jpg
https://ibb.co/gTS6vNv

Also forum rules, my child-intelligence friend



3 Its phucking byrne era Superman, who later got a upgrade and then you have the scan the topic posted


Lol... all of those scans were not Byrne Superman. Most of them were not. Wipe your eyes.

Also, since you're quoting forum rules, I guess that means we can basically scratch this thread out about Thor or anything that was said about the character since we've seen him flying through space for long periods, right? Or does this just apply to Superman?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...40a286b5a4b1-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...613cfb83f061-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...5e5cad661ec3-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...cccf023d5b17-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...6c140389a82a-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...7ce86c875f9f-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...543156749aaa-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...31d838149fcc-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...1c52335f3311-lq

And I'm sure this actually came out recently...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...f94b868befff-lq

Might as well throw this up in there...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...9c82e2f3a5d6-lq


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Originally posted by carver9
Lol... all of those scans were not Byrne Superman. Most of them were not. Wipe your eyes.

Either you are illiteracy or just picked random scans on internet without actually reading the comics
quote: (post)
Originally posted by carver9

This...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...198e89f7e665-lq


It's from The Man of Steel issue 3, written by Byrne himself. And I pointed out to you in my post
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Th...e-3?id=58758#18

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Originally posted by carver9

Also, since you're quoting forum rules, I guess that means we can basically scratch this thread out about Thor or anything that was said about the character since we've seen him flying through space for long periods, right? Or does this just apply to Superman?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...40a286b5a4b1-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...613cfb83f061-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...5e5cad661ec3-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...cccf023d5b17-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...6c140389a82a-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...7ce86c875f9f-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...543156749aaa-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...31d838149fcc-lq
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...1c52335f3311-lq

And I'm sure this actually came out recently...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...f94b868befff-lq

Might as well throw this up in there...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...9c82e2f3a5d6-lq

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1 Flying in space means shit when plenty of characters who need to breathe did tha

And you also posted a Byrne era Superman scan again
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...cccf023d5b17-lq
Reading the comics ffs

You also want to use character A's case to prove character B( Supergirl's scan).
Good, here you go
https://ibb.co/gzcJ4X8

Then now we have Superman and Supergirl both are stated to be no need to breathe, Care to post scans that state Thor doesnt need to breathe? smile

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Lol, Why the scan links you posted are same as the scans that were posted on this quora answer. Tell me, did you actually read the scans you posted or just googled them?
https://www.quora.com/How-can-Super...-in-outer-space

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Either you are illiteracy or just picked random scans on internet without actually reading the comics

It's from The Man of Steel issue 3, written by Byrne himself. And I pointed out to you in my post
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Th...e-3?id=58758#18



And you also posted a Byrne era Superman scan again
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...cccf023d5b17-lq
Reading the comics ffs

You also want to use character A's case to prove character B( Supergirl's scan).
Good, here you go
https://ibb.co/gzcJ4X8

Then now we have Superman and Supergirl both are stated to be no need to breathe, Care to post scans that state Thor doesnt need to breathe? smile

Edit:
Lol, Why the scan links you posted are same as the scans that were posted on this quora answer. Tell me, did you actually read the scans you posted or just googled them?
https://www.quora.com/How-can-Super...-in-outer-space


I'm going to say this again, all of those scans are not Byrne.

Also, the scan you posted is before rebirth for Supergirl. The scan I posted happened after rebirth. Then, like I said, we have contradictory scans for both Thor and Superman. Are we exempting the scans from Thor as well or does this just apply to Superman who admitted he needs to breath, RECENTLY?


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Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to say this again, all of those scans are not Byrne.

quote: (post)
Originally posted by carver9

This...

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...198e89f7e665-lq

quote: (post)
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Either you are illiteracy or just picked random scans on internet without actually reading the comics

It's from The Man of Steel issue 3, written by Byrne himself. And I pointed out to you in my post
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Th...e-3?id=58758#18

And you also posted a Byrne era Superman scan again
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...cccf023d5b17-lq

Its from Byrne's Exile story arc

Reading the comics ffs

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Originally posted by carver9


Also, the scan you posted is before rebirth for Supergirl. The scan I posted happened after rebirth. Then, like I said, we have contradictory scans for both Thor and Superman. Are we exempting the scans from Thor as well or does this just apply to Superman who admitted he needs to breath, RECENTLY?

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1 Flying in space means shit when plenty of characters who need to breathe did that. Comics nonsense stuff like that

quote: (post)
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Then now we have Superman and Supergirl both are stated to be no need to breathe, Care to post scans that state Thor doesnt need to breathe? smile


Again
Please post the scans that state Thor doesnt need to breathe, Like Superman and Supergirl did

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
And you also posted a Byrne era Superman scan again
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qi...cccf023d5b17-lq

Its from Byrne's Exile story arc

Reading the comics ffs





Again
Please post the scans that state Thor doesnt need to breathe, Like Superman and Supergirl did


I sure did because those scans are canon to current Superman. Why wouldn't I? Hello!!!

I already posted proof that Superman and Thor can hold their breath for long periods of time to compensate for space flight.


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I sure did because those scans are canon to current Superman. Why wouldn't I? Hello!!!

I already posted proof that Superman and Thor can hold their breath for long periods of time to compensate for space flight.

Are you incapable of reading the character name that youre debating?
Please post the scans that state Thor doesnt need to breathe, Like Superman and Supergirl did

No, You didnt. I posted the scan to prove Superman can hold his breath with corresponding scans that state he and Supergirl do not need to breath. You just googled "does Superman need to breathe" and chose random scans that suit you without even reading the comics. Again, if you want to prove Thor doesnt require oxygen then post scans that state so. Like I did

Also you seem to ignore the fact that you did post Byrne era Superman scans. Looks like you are wrong again

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Simple request, Carv.

Look, we know that Hulk being choked out by a snake is a pathetically low showing. Why? Because he has much much better showings.

Superman needing to breathe is a low showing. Why? Because he has specific scans SPECIFICALLY saying he doesn't need to breathe.

Thor needing to breathe is apparently a low showing, according to you, Carv. Fine. Post the specific scans stating he doesn't need to breathe.

Hello!!!!


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I sure did because those scans are canon to current Superman. Why wouldn't I? Hello!!!

I already posted proof that Superman and Thor can hold their breath for long periods of time to compensate for space flight.


Bad writing, ie, when a writer gets something patently wrong, isn't canon.

And we sure as shit know that if this was Hulk, you wouldn't be making an argument at all.


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this thread should be renamed to "carver needs to calm down --- he is no hulk"

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Bad writing, ie, when a writer gets something patently wrong, isn't canon.

And we sure as shit know that if this was Hulk, you wouldn't be making an argument at all.


It's not just writers though. It's in his bio...

https://m.imgur.com/CAsEPav

Superman can hold his breath longer than Thor but both requires oxygen.


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It's not just writers though. It's in his bio...

https://m.imgur.com/CAsEPav

Superman can hold his breath longer than Thor but both requires oxygen.

And this is also from his bio
https://ibb.co/gTS6vNv

I like how you pick and choose

Again, are you going to post scans that state thor doesnt require oxygen or just getting raped by the whole forum...like countless times before?

Now we have Superman and his young cousin are both said that they dont have to breathe, and Thor has none, You really made a good effort to prove he really isnt Kryptonians

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Simple request, Carv.

Look, we know that Hulk being choked out by a snake is a pathetically low showing. Why? Because he has much much better showings.

Superman needing to breathe is a low showing. Why? Because he has specific scans SPECIFICALLY saying he doesn't need to breathe.

Thor needing to breathe is apparently a low showing, according to you, Carv. Fine. Post the specific scans stating he doesn't need to breathe.

Hello!!!!


I think that this applies to both. Both Superman and Thor have showings of not needing air to survive both in space and in the ocean. I guess that it depends on the writer. One example of this for Thor is his battle against Scrier in space unless my recollection is off?


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It's not just writers though. It's in his bio...

https://m.imgur.com/CAsEPav

Superman can hold his breath longer than Thor but both requires oxygen.


All that is, is the exception that proves the rule. So no, Superman doesn't.


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Bios don't mean anything. Lobos bio stated he has "super strength and then some" while Supermans merely says he has super strength. Does anyone think Lobo is stronger than Superman?


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