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Rand Paul demands NSA investigation.

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First look: Rand Paul seeks Tucker Carlson investigation
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is requesting an investigation into allegations by Tucker Carlson that the National Security Agency was spying on him, Axios has learned.

Why it matters: The senator sent a letter to Gen. Paul Nakasone of the National Security Agency, casting doubt on the NSA’s public denial of spying on Carlson and defending the Fox News host as a journalist who should be protected by the First Amendment.

Between the lines: Paul, who sits on the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs, wrote that he is “open-minded” to believe the NSA may be telling the truth.

However, he argues a “long train of abuses” committed by the agency must elicit more than a “carefully worded” tweet of denial to be trusted.
Paul requests the agency answer specific questions, including whether it will investigate if Carlson’s allegations are true.
He asks for lawful justification of any unmasking if it, indeed, occurred.
The backstory: Carlson recently alleged on his show that his identity was “unmasked” and leaked as he was seeking an interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

He said earlier the NSA was monitoring his emails, prompting a rare public denial from the agency.
It's unclear why Carlson, or his source, would think any media outreach to Putin would be the basis for NSA surveillance or a motive to have his show canceled, Axios’ Jonathan Swan wrote last week.
Be smart: Fox’s lawyers and a federal judge have argued in the past that in his role as a show host, Carlson’s words should not be taken as fact — the bedrock for journalists and the First Amendment protections they claim.

“The 'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that (Carlson) is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary,’” wrote U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's in a court opinion last year.



Whatever your opinion on Tucket or his "reporting", the NSA has been suspect for years now. I think Rand Paul is merely using this as an opportunity to demand some much belated transparency, and less cares about defending Carlson.


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lol sure


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lol sure


I knew Tucker being involved would make it a hard sell. laughing out loud


But Rand Paul is a standup guy, if he thinks the NSA needs looking into, that has to mean something.

He's one of the most honorable Senators there are, I think both sides will agree on that.


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Wait, was Rand Paul the third party candidate who got like 11% of the vote?


...I got Rand Paul confused with Ross Perot..

Shit.


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I knew Tucker being involved would make it a hard sell. laughing out loud


But Rand Paul is a standup guy, if he thinks the NSA needs looking into, that has to mean something.

He's one of the most honorable Senators there are, I think both sides will agree on that.
Rand Paul was the Senator that tried to say he had enough expertise to undermine Fauci despite him being anything but an expert.


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Rand Paul was the Senator that tried to say he had enough expertise to undermine Fauci despite him being anything but an expert.



I really did get him confused with someone else.


Not sure it's even perot though. Who was the libertarian guy? Or whoever it was that didn't trust any governmental organization, and was aghast at Prism I think, and supported Wikileaks..?


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You mean his dad?


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You mean his dad?


That's probably it.

Is Ron respected?


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Interesting question. So what I'm gathering here is that you don't have much idea of who any of these people are, yet your justification for taking this seriously was...

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But Rand-Ross-Ron Paul-Perrot is a standup guy, if he thinks the NSA needs looking into, that has to mean something.


...yeah, this is definitely not about Tucker Carlson or anything. laughing out loud


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Interesting question. So what I'm gathering here is that you don't have much idea of who any of these people are, yet your justification for taking this seriously was...



...yeah, this is definitely not about Tucker Carlson or anything. laughing out loud


Nooooo..

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Republicans voted no on a bipartisan investigation into the Jan 6th attack and insurrection and have done their best to block other attempts, but now they want an investigation into the NSA because Tucker Carlson says so?

laughing out loud


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Interesting question. So what I'm gathering here is that you don't have much idea of who any of these people are, yet your justification for taking this seriously was...



...yeah, this is definitely not about Tucker Carlson or anything. laughing out loud
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Republicans voted no on a bipartisan investigation into the Jan 6th attack and insurrection and have done their best to block other attempts, but now they want an investigation into the NSA because Tucker Carlson says so?

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That's probably it.

Is Ron respected?


More respected than Rand. Rand is no better than any other Republican.


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Rand is more mainstream whereas Ron was a more principled and a niche meme, mostly.

Having said that, Ron was only a congressman, Rand is a senator. I wonder who is more respected by the government, I mean swamp.


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Thank God for senators like Paul... and especially thank God for patriots like Tucker Carlson. thumb up


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Thank God for senators like Paul... and especially thank God for patriots like Tucker Carlson. thumb up

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Yeah, Carlson is such a patriot he can’t comprehend what “separation of church and state “ means.


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Yeah, Carlson is such a patriot he can’t comprehend what “separation of church and state “ means.
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"Why it matters: The senator sent a letter to Gen. Paul Nakasone of the National Security Agency, casting doubt on the NSA’s public denial of spying on Carlson and defending the Fox News host as a journalist who should be protected by the First Amendment."

And yet


"Now comes the claim that you can't expect to literally believe the words that come out of Carlson's mouth. And that assertion is not coming from Carlson's critics. It's being made by a federal judge in the Southern District of New York and by Fox News's own lawyers in defending Carlson against accusations of slander. It worked, by the way."


"Just read U.S. District Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil's opinion, leaning heavily on the arguments of Fox's lawyers: The "'general tenor' of the show should then inform a viewer that [Carlson] is not 'stating actual facts' about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in 'exaggeration' and 'non-literal commentary.' "

"Fox persuasively argues, that given Mr. Carlson's reputation, any reasonable viewer 'arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism' about the statement he makes."

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/9177...say-fox-s-lawye


Nothing like the ol classic tale of Schrödinger's Carlson. When Tucker is inside your tv he can be both a journalist and not a journalist at the same time.

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