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Kevin Smith angry over Masters of the Universe reviews

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"Smith does not take those complaints very seriously. "It’s been interesting, seeing who truly is a hardcore fan," he said. "Because anybody that’s like, ‘Oh, man, there’s not enough He-Man’ or something like that, doesn’t understand the show that we based it on. There were episodes where he lost the sword and he never became He-Man. It wasn’t like He-Man always saved the day. His friends helped him. That was the ****ing point of the show."

"I see people online go, ‘Hey man, they’re getting rid of He-Man!' Like, you really ****ing think Mattel Television, who hired me and paid me money, wants to do a ****ing ‘Masters of the Universe’ show without He-Man?" he continued in a harsher manner. "Grow the **** up, man. Like, that blew my mind, bunch of people being like, ‘Oh, I smell it. This is a bait and switch.'"

On the other hand, it's also being review-bombed:
https://www.cbr.com/netflix-kevin-s...-review-bombed/
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...-202442817.html
https://www.thewrap.com/kevin-smith...bombed-by-fans/


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Kevin Smith cries over every mediocre piece of Disney trashola that gets released, who gives a shit what he thinks


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Disney does release shit though. I mean, Star wars and marvel were already ruined, but only they could've made them even worse.


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lol @ 'disney made marvel worse'


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Wasn't it a bait and switch though? [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Adam/He-Man gets sidelined first episode, then it's basically Teela & The Masters of the Universe until the end of the season. And Adam's essentially dead right now. Didn't he basically lie about everything he said?

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Disney does release shit though. I mean, Star wars and marvel were already ruined, but only they could've made them even worse.
He cries over them because he thinks they're beautiful. He's an idiot.


That said, I enjoy a fair few films in the MCU (and conceptually I think the MCU is neat) but Smith posts selfies of him weeping like a child every time a new entry gets released.


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In all honesty, Smith sold out in the 90's and he's been coasting by on Clerks and Mallrats ever since, now that those films are slipping away from people's memories, how much of a dick he is is coming to light. Looks like the kind of guy who stalked every ex he's ever had.


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Wasn't it a bait and switch though? [SPOILER - highlight to read]: Adam/He-Man gets sidelined first episode, then it's basically Teela & The Masters of the Universe until the end of the season. And Adam's essentially dead right now. Didn't he basically lie about everything he said?


Pretty much.

I think Smith's idea was to make Teela the "main character" who isn't the "hero". Kind of what happened in Metal Gear Solid 2, with Raiden. Smith outright said that Teela is always there in the cartoon. This makes her a perfect character to tell the story around, because she'll be there to see everything important, without being tied down to any one thing.

He-Man still saved the universe, Adam still gave up paradise, and He-Man will likely defeat Skeletor.


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Pretty much.

I think Smith's idea was to make Teela the "main character" who isn't the "hero". Kind of what happened in Metal Gear Solid 2, with Raiden. Smith outright said that Teela is always there in the cartoon. This makes her a perfect character to tell the story around, because she'll be there to see everything important, without being tied down to any one thing.

He-Man still saved the universe, Adam still gave up paradise, and He-Man will likely defeat Skeletor.


See, I preferred Raiden in 4 to 2. In Patriots, he gets to be a complete and utter badass, but is alongside Snake being that badass. Not being the main focal point while Snake is shuffled off to the side, which would understandably piss off everyone who bought the game to play Solid Snake again.

He easily could've brought Teela up so to speak without the need for eliminating Adam/He-Man entirely from his own show. Why call it "He-Man & The Masters of the Universe" if He-Man isn't in it for 99% of the show? To trick people into watching what he made because if he called it what it was, it wouldn't have just gotten bombed, no one aside from critics ,reviewers and non-fans would've watched it. He literally said "It's not the Teela Show"...then proceeded to make the Teela Show.

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I wonder what Adam PoE thinks of this


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See, I preferred Raiden in 4 to 2. In Patriots, he gets to be a complete and utter badass, but is alongside Snake being that badass. Not being the main focal point while Snake is shuffled off to the side, which would understandably piss off everyone who bought the game to play Solid Snake again.

He easily could've brought Teela up so to speak without the need for eliminating Adam/He-Man entirely from his own show. Why call it "He-Man & The Masters of the Universe" if He-Man isn't in it for 99% of the show? To trick people into watching what he made because if he called it what it was, it wouldn't have just gotten bombed, no one aside from critics ,reviewers and non-fans would've watched it. He literally said "It's not the Teela Show"...then proceeded to make the Teela Show.


Smith's also taking inspiration from the comics, I'd imagine. 2012 DC 10 issue series, every issue focused on a unique character. Man at Arms in one. Trap Jaw in one, Evil Lynn in another. All very good. He-Man wasn't the focus until issue 10, and only a side character to Orko's story earlier on.


He-Man can't really save the day before the Netflix series is done, so he needs to sideline him somehow. This isn't a bad way to do it, as opposed to the tired "lose the sword" meme.


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Who knows whats going to happen in the series though, there are 5 more episodes still?

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I thought it was great

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The issue isn't that it's bad. It's that it was a blatant lie. Smith lied multiple times about everything.

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The issue isn't that it's bad. It's that it was a blatant lie. Smith lied multiple times about everything.
he didn't want to give the plot away.

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I thought it was great



Would be just as good without race swapping.


Imagine how you'd feel if you walked in on your wife and she suddenly had blue skin, and was making out with Captain Kirk.


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Or some Navi chick.


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Yes, if Whirl's wife had blue skin and was making out with Captain Kirk and some Navi chick. thumb up


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Kevin Smith lost his magic 20 years ago. His peak was Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, which was a fitting and appropriate closure for the two respective characters.

Now all Smith does is milk said characters shamelessly because he can’t think of anything else to write other than Sausage Nazi monsters and walruses.

I don’t even have high hopes for Clerks 3.


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I thought it was great


What was great about it?


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