qwertyuiop1998
The Vampire
Gender: Unspecified Location: The Scarlet Mansion
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
It was sucking tables in. I'm sure if it just sat there over time, it would probably destroy everything. Wonder how much time that would've taken because that hole isn't as threatening as you're making it. The answer to that question is either of us don't know. We don't know if it can be gripped by anybody and since that hole was weak AF, I feel certain anyone with planetary strength (continent, city level, mountain level) can close the hole. Example, Wonder Woman close a rift in the phantom Zone that Mongul couldn't close (yes, he was hurt by Doomsday) and a Kryptonian couldn't close. The rift was powerful enough to destroy the entire Phantom Zone. Am I suppose to say Hercules can't achieve this either?
https://m.imgur.com/a/t89rE6X
Also, this ft is more impressive than anything you've posted.
Superman flew through a door. What's the issue number?
So what are you trying to argue is this tear was weak due to we dont know how much time it would take to destroy earth and some collateral damage arguments?
Lets ingore the fact Superman needs to act quickly to stop this hole before it could destroy earth
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS
Lets look at the picture you posted
https://imgur.com/rNlvCyC
how much force did Hercules contribute here? And how much damage did the combined force of Hercules and Thor cause?
Superman 19. And ironically( Or typically in your case) you had the same argument with Galan years ago
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
There's not a door there, bud.
Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Aug 1st, 2021 at 03:02 PM
Aug 1st, 2021 02:52 PM
DarkSaint85
Senior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location:
That hole between Thor and Hercules looks weak; the grass behind Hercules isn't even ruffled.
Carver's collateral damage arguments are great.
__________________
Aug 1st, 2021 02:55 PM
qwertyuiop1998
The Vampire
Gender: Unspecified Location: The Scarlet Mansion
Its really funny Carver trying to use the same old arguments which were rebutted multiple times
I mean
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I'm talking about the door Superman flew threw when he was concentrating. Lois guided him via her voice and they came through a door afterwards. I'm asking you the difference between both showings.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
There's not a door there, bud.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Lol...I know, it's the same thing that I posted in both scans.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Most times you're wrong... But sometimes you're really wrong.
Mxy's Infinite Planet couldn't be more dissimilar from Marvel's Crossroads, lol. If I were a betting man, I'd say that your only agenda here is trying to 'prove' that Hulk can duplicate Superman's feat... Which would be unbelievably stupid of you.
I recommend you just stop now. This will only end with you looking even worse than you already tend to.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Lol...no, that's not my agenda because I would've shown Hulk jumping through the portal. I'm trying to figure out the showing you keep bringing up and the difference between both scans I posted. You're not explaining anything though; you're more on the defense like I'm attacking you when I'm not. Superman concentrated and heard exactly where Lois was based off her guiding him. She latch on to him and they go through a portal door.
I'm asking you to tell me if you got something other than what I just said and if so, what did you get from it.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
Lol. I like how you try to play the faux-innocent card when everyone can see that you were CLEARLY trying to draw parallels between Hulk and Superman, by way of comparing the Crossroads to Mxy's Infinite Planet... Only now, AFTER I called you on your bullshit, are you trying to backpedal.
Annnnyway...
One more time for the daft among us: Superman, using Lois' voice as a beacon of sorts, shattered through multiple universal boundaries, and broke free of Mxy's game/trap. Simple. If you cannot understand why or how this happened, then I'm sorry, but your ability(of lack thereof) to comprehend various aspects of the plot just isn't my concern.
Aug 1st, 2021 03:07 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That hole between Thor and Hercules looks weak; the grass behind Hercules isn't even ruffled.
Carver's collateral damage arguments are great.
Lol... I think both holes served different purposes.
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 1st, 2021 04:15 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
quote: (post ) Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So what are you trying to argue is this tear was weak due to we dont know how much time it would take to destroy earth and some collateral damage arguments?
Lets ingore the fact Superman needs to act quickly to stop this hole before it could destroy earth
https://ibb.co/SQMs8GS
Lets look at the picture you posted
https://imgur.com/rNlvCyC
how much force did Hercules contribute here? And how much damage did the combined force of Hercules and Thor cause?
Superman 19. And ironically( Or typically in your case) you had the same argument with Galan years ago
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 1st, 2021 04:17 PM
qwertyuiop1998
The Vampire
Gender: Unspecified Location: The Scarlet Mansion
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?
So how much damage did the combined force of Hercules and Thor cause in this scan?
https://imgur.com/rNlvCyC
Hmm, Seems no damage at all. I guess Thor and Hercules are extremely weak after all
Aug 1st, 2021 04:21 PM
DarkSaint85
Senior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?
Yes.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Collateral damage is preschool type of debating.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...
I don't think you should look at the attack as a planet exploding attack, look at it as an attack coming from one of the most powerful beings in Marvel who was amped 5 times over when it happened. Imagine judging every attack off of the collateral damage displayed. Trans tiers would be meta to street level
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Collateral damage means nothing. Displayed power is what matters. Why do you and Mr. Mind struggle at comprehending things?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
What is JL King even talking about? Post a counter or leave the thread. What I said made perfect sense. Collateral damage doesn't equal power output. Anyone who knows anything about comics should know this.
I can keep going
__________________
Last edited by DarkSaint85 on Aug 1st, 2021 at 04:34 PM
Aug 1st, 2021 04:28 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
Why are you all mentioning collateral damage, though?
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 1st, 2021 04:43 PM
DarkSaint85
Senior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yep, the hole appears extremely weak. Some chairs and other pieces of furniture survived it. Am I suppose to ignore this?
Because you are?
__________________
Aug 1st, 2021 04:54 PM
qwertyuiop1998
The Vampire
Gender: Unspecified Location: The Scarlet Mansion
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Why are you all mentioning collateral damage, though?
Because you are the one who trying to use it to downplay?
Lets get this clear. The comic literally tells you that the tear in space would have destroyed/sucked entire earth if not for Superman closing this tear. Agree?
So how is this tear in space extremely weak/it is nothing when it has the force at planetary level ?
I mean the scans you posted claiming Wonder Woman closed a rift that could destroy the phantom zone?
"If that rift blows, Its gonna kill all of you"
https://imgur.com/a/t89rE6X
Seems like youre the one who actually making something bigger than what it is.
Aug 1st, 2021 05:02 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
Gotcha... so it's an earth shattering black hole?
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 1st, 2021 06:09 PM
qwertyuiop1998
The Vampire
Gender: Unspecified Location: The Scarlet Mansion
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha... so it's an earth shattering black hole?
Depends on the interpretation. I would say yes It looks like a black hole( Of course if you want to be more precise, then it is a tear in space) with planetary level power
So like I posted earlier, Which character(s) can accomplish these exotic feats?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
1 Closing a hole in space that could suck entire earth
2 Resisting and Breaking time stop
3 Breaking a reality warping/erasing
4 Punching through a time loop
Aug 1st, 2021 06:15 PM
DarkSaint85
Senior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location:
Carver, this you?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
@Squall...
I don't think you should look at the attack as a planet exploding attack, look at it as an attack coming from one of the most powerful beings in Marvel who was amped 5 times over when it happened. Imagine judging every attack off of the collateral damage displayed. Trans tiers would be meta to street level
__________________
Aug 1st, 2021 06:16 PM
h1a8
Senior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location: United States
quote: (post )
Beyonder weighs 200lb. He wasn't exactly unmovable.
Except they are not strong enough to shatter a planet.
Except Hercules wasn't actually holding anything (plus it was a tall tale, not something that actually happened).
Shared feat that took a long time (also a from alternate future). Weak sauce anyway.
__________________
"Such fragile lifeformses."
-General Zod: Superman II
Aug 1st, 2021 09:50 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Beyonder weighs 200lb. He wasn't exactly unmovable.
Except they are not strong enough to shatter a planet.
Except Hercules wasn't actually holding anything (plus it was a tall tale, not something that actually happened).
Shared feat that took a long time (also a from alternate future). Weak sauce anyway.
Beyonder has stood in place while being hit by a blast that had enough power to destroy an infinite amount of dimensions. The ft is ridiculous that Herc pulled off.
That's not what the narrator said there. It was specifically said they could shed worlds.
Moving worlds isn't weak sauce, lol.
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 1st, 2021 10:01 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver, this you?
Are you not the same guy that use Thor getting hit in the back of the head by a Boulder to downplay him?
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 1st, 2021 10:03 PM
h1a8
Senior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location: United States
quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Beyonder has stood in place while being hit by a blast that had enough power to destroy an infinite amount of dimensions. The ft is ridiculous that Herc pulled off.
That's not what the narrator said there. It was specifically said they could shed worlds.
Moving worlds isn't weak sauce, lol.
Yet in that scene he was a 200lb being, nothing more.
Just so you know, blasts don't equal blunt force necessarily. Think of lasers.
Moving worlds after hours, days, etc is weak sauce in comparison to Superman's listed feats. Plus it's alternative future and don't count.
__________________
"Such fragile lifeformses."
-General Zod: Superman II
Aug 1st, 2021 10:19 PM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
You don't make one bit of sense. Superman is a 200 pound mean, guess I can punch him across a room.
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 2nd, 2021 01:46 AM
Galan007
|Quantum Observer|
Gender: Male Location: Mars, 1985
You can punch a 200 pound human being across a room?
Goddamn.
__________________
"I am tired of Earth. These people.
I am tired of being caught in the tangle of their lives."
Aug 2nd, 2021 01:51 AM
carver9
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: United States
A tiny room. Extremely tiny.
__________________
On ignore list: Darksaint and Stilt
Aug 2nd, 2021 02:21 AM
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is OFF
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
Text-only version