One shot means ko. Stop trolling and using the wrong terminology. All Hulk did was brace against it and the ground (breaking the ground up). Its like a bullet being stopped by ceramic plates or a barrier. The barrier gets destroyed but ultimately slows the bullet down.
1. Stopping Force = 1/2 x mass x (Initial velocity ^2) / stopping distance
Or
2. Stopping Force = mass x initial velocity / time
If numbers are fairly accurate then both formulae should give similar results.
Looking at the leviathan approaching Banner right before he turns into Hulk it appears to be moving roughly at 30mph or a little less. This is about 13.4 m/s. Stopping distance is about 25-30m. We use 27m as average. Stopping time is about 4 seconds.
From 1.
F = 1/2 x mass x (13.4 m/s) ^2 / (27m) = 3.3 x (mass in kg) N
From 2.
F = mass x (13.4 m/s) /(4 s) = 3.35 x (mass in kg) N
Similar results.
Now 3.35 x (mass in kg) = 0.0037 x mass in tons.
So Stopping Force = 0.0037 x mass in tons.
So now we attempt to calculate the mass.
Length of leviathan is approximately 200ft.
A blue whale can be 100ft and 150tons
So leviathan is 2x longer and thus 2^3 or 8x more massive (without armor). This is 1200 tons. When Hulk pulled a slab of the metal off and stabbed the leviathan, it appeared to be approximately 3 inches in thickness.
Leviathan is approximately 30ft wide. So the top metal has an approximate volume of 1178 cubic feet = 33 cubic meters (Area of ellipse =pi * a * b).
Note: The leviathan has a smaller area than an ellipse since the 2nd half of it is really thin tail like. So all estimates are overestimates.
The metal armor seems light and strong (light as high grade aluminum or titanium).
Density of titanium is 4500 kg/ (m^3)
So mass of top armor = 4500 x 33 kg = 164 tons
I saw no bottom armor or side armor.
So mass = 1367 tons
So stopping force = 0.037 x 1367 tons = 467 tons.
Heres the kicker.
1. The leviathan didn't completely stop (it began flipping).
2. The leviathan made contact with the ground. That means friction did a lot of the work.
3. Hulk braced against the leviathan. So he didn't supply the majority of the force. The ground did.
Replace Hulk with a durable object thats dug into the ground for support and the result would be nearly the same.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
And that means as of now, Scott Lang/Ant man is the most physically powerful being in the MCU as he punched a Leviathan clean out of his way with a single right straight.
He punched a less than 2000 ton alien. Facts. His random number followed by "I guess" is the same as saying "who the phuck knows". Duh.
AM is stronger if used muscles.
So instead of using a number made up by the co-writer, you want us to use a number you made up?
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
The commentary wasn't serious. The guy had no phucking idea how much it weighed.
My numbers are over estimates that can be verified in the movie. The only thing that is assumed is the density of the leviathan is equivalent to a blue whale.
If that can't be assumed then Hulk has no feat at all and AM is automatically stronger by default.
I believe you are the joke. Especially in the other thread when you thought binary can beat SS because she destroyed a planet.
Not realizing SS has done it easily and has her beat in speed and versatility. You are the joke my friend.
The guy was a writer of the movie and said it probably weighed around 3 million tons. Even if it was a little less or a little more, his intent was that the creature weighed a lot. Way more than your made up numbers. You trying to put actual numbers that fit your argument doesnt fly.
Like the other thread, just admit that your wrong and quit looking stupid.
Here is my quote from that thread that your so fixated on for some reason -
Did I say it was a definite? Did I say anything was for sure? Did I say for a majority? Did I argue with anybody about it in that thread? I only said she might be able to a win. MIGHT.
You are a sad, sad little person. Please go away now.
The writer estimated around 3 million tons and you say its less than 2000 and want to pass it off as fact? How exactly did you come up with your factual numbers for an alien being thats not of this world? An alien being thats much, much larger than a submarine with an outer metallic epidermis thats much, much more durable than the shell of a submarine. Please let us know how you are so well versed in Leviathans and know more about them than the writer who created them.
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