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There is no radical left in the United States, period.

Our worst protest was overblown by the right as the Stonewall Riots or something. It really WAS mostly peaceful protests. Compare Black Lives Matter or Antifa to uprising in the same year or two. It was social unrest for REFORM WITHIN THE CURRENT SYSTEM, not REGIME CHANGE.


And what's so radical about speaking your mind about things that affect you and your community directly? I can't think of a more anti-radical position than argumentation.

And what else is this radical left doing? Buying comic book with lgbt representation? Seeing movies with a black actor replacing a white comic book character? Changes done by businessmen to sell a product? In other words, bog standard consumerism?


Such a radical concept!



I dunno, show me this radical left, because I sure can't seem to find them.


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only people i can think of as "the radical left" in america live on hippy commumes in the middle if nowhere and have cowshit between their toes.


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KMC is full of Radical Leftists.


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Oh, and this belief that there is no "Radical Left" in the United States is complete nonsense.

Just look at some of the people running for office, look at younger people (Gen Z for example).

They're as radical as you'll find, and they're insane.


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This song encapsulates the radical left in the UK of my generation. This is what raised us people from between the wars like my Grandfather who was a gas engineer.

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Oh, and this belief that there is no "Radical Left" in the United States is complete nonsense.

Just look at some of the people running for office, look at younger people (Gen Z for example).

They're as radical as you'll find, and they're insane.


You sound like a radical Rightist right there :/


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I mean, considering socialist parties were quite popular in the 20s and 30s, calling people “radical leftist “ is a joke.


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You sound like a radical Rightist right there :/
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I mean, considering socialist parties were quite popular in the 20s and 30s, calling people “radical leftist “ is a joke.
it's Eon/Klaw, it is what he is. smile

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I'm certainly a radical leftist.


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The left exists, but is godawful at mobilizing.


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Re: There is no radical left in the United States, period.

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And what else is this radical left doing? Buying comic book with lgbt representation? Seeing movies with a black actor replacing a white comic book character? Changes done by businessmen to sell a product? In other words, bog standard consumerism?



No thats not what the left are asking for at all. Certainly not the radical left.

They want Medicare for all, an end to the foreign wars, an end to the war on drugs, an end to support for big business over the people who actually need it.

They tried to force a vote on Medicare at all, but that didnt get enough support. Nina Turner was a big hope for them, but thats gone the wrong way, mostly due to corporate money. The left want an end to corporate money entering political campaigns.

The radical left want more police accountability as well. And do everything they can to get equal opportunities for everyone, in spite of the level of income your parents had or the area you grew up in.


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The left exists, but is godawful at mobilizing.



Yeah that is a problem.

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The left want to end the death penalty and get free education.


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No thats not what the left are asking for at all. Certainly not the radical left.

They want Medicare for all, an end to the foreign wars, an end to the war on drugs, an end to support for big business over the people who actually need it.

They tried to force a vote on Medicare at all, but that didnt get enough support. Nina Turner was a big hope for them, but thats gone the wrong way, mostly due to corporate money. The left want an end to corporate money entering political campaigns.

The radical left want more police accountability as well. And do everything they can to get equal opportunities for everyone, in spite of the level of income your parents had or the area you grew up in.





Yeah that is a problem.



But is any of that really "radical"?


All sounds pretty reasonable to me.


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No thats not what the left are asking for at all. Certainly not the radical left.

They want Medicare for all, an end to the foreign wars, an end to the war on drugs, an end to support for big business over the people who actually need it.

They tried to force a vote on Medicare at all, but that didnt get enough support. Nina Turner was a big hope for them, but thats gone the wrong way, mostly due to corporate money. The left want an end to corporate money entering political campaigns.

The radical left want more police accountability as well. And do everything they can to get equal opportunities for everyone, in spite of the level of income your parents had or the area you grew up in.
That's just sort of general-left. Most of the Democratic party are 'liberals', 'centrists', imo fairly right-of-centre on economic issues, so actual left-wing members seem 'far-left', 'radical left' by comparison.


To be 'radical left' you must want an end to capitalism in all of its forms. That's a basic entry requirement.


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I mean, considering socialist parties were quite popular in the 20s and 30s, calling people “radical leftist “ is a joke.
I bring you back to this post.


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and in the 90's to be honest without the electoral college in the US and with proportional representation they would be in the UK.

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Not forgetting the late 50s, 60's,70's,00's in the UK and to a lesser degree the US, the anti Vietnam war and CND for example.

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Hmm. Thinking about it, I'd like to amend my last post. 'Radicalism' is broader than the extent of belief in or support for a cause or ideology.


So I'd say 'radical left' can be used in different ways. One is the definition I used before, to describe 'extreme left-wing' or 'far-left' or what have you. But radicalism can also describe those who use more extreme tactics regardless of their beliefs. So that broadens the definition somewhat; those who take part in direct action (such as the extreme sides of protesting, all the way to assassination and revolutionary tactics) could also be considered even if they aren't entirely opposed to capitalism.


That said, most of them probably are. For example a radical 'green' activist might not be entirely opposed to capitalism, but the chances are that they are, because they recognise that only by removing the earth-salting capitalist machine could saving the planet be possible; if they didn't, they'd just keep voting or whatever, thinking that ordinary politics could garner positive results (it won't).


So whilst I'd still say that generally when one thinks of the 'radical left', full opposition to capitalism is a staple concept, I wanted to make clear that there are exceptions. Also, obviously, not all 'radical leftists' engage in extreme methods to further their ideological goals. Most just sit around posting long-winded messages on the internet.


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