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Abortion
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WanderingDroid
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Wow! I never thought I would see the day I would meet an advicator for Chicken rights. Guess the Colonel at KFC is a murdering bastard. wink


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Mr. Sandman
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Oh hell yea, the Colonel is a murdering bastard! **** chicken's rights, I'll still eat the little buggers. Don't make the mistake of assuming I'm a vegetarian. Check the "Free Me" thread if you want my view on that. I'm just saying, humans are the most selfish species on the planet but they don't see it...because they're selfish and arrogant. Really, a human life is not worth more than a chicken's. We only think it is because of our intellegence, beliefs in religion and all that other "we-are-so-insecure-we-need-a-supreme-being" bullshit.


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Fiery Eyes
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FE> It is the woman’s choice – and ONLY the woman’s choice - because it is the WOMANS body!
Simple as that. And the reason why the woman decides and not the man. I understand your reasonings, though. What if the guy wants the child and the girl doesn’t? But until men can become pregnant, well… It’s the woman’s body.

I disagree, the woman said yes just like the man did, he shld have rights too. She can't have a baby w/o man. If a woman doesn't want kids, then she shld take all the necessary precautions to NOT have them. Killing an innocent baby is not the answer, just cuz someone forgot to use protection 1 nite. Not that thats the only way it happens just using that as an example. It is LIFE in you.
I would not go out and Kill an abortion Doctor, becuz i was against it, evil for evil .....is EVIL.
Kids & adults are educated in birth control now adays. Most people are on a pill of some sort. But the best birth control is absence.


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Mr. Sandman
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You mean "abstinence" and yes, that is the best birth control. Even so, shit happens.


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Fiery Eyes
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yeah it does, but i don't see that as a right to kill an innocent baby.


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WanderingDroid
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quote:
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Really, a human life is not worth more than a chicken's. We only think it is because of our intellegence, beliefs in religion and all that other "we-are-so-insecure-we-need-a-supreme-being" bullshit.


I'm not even going to touch that one. If you think a human life is not worth more than a chicken.....good luck with that!

I'm out!


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Mr. Sandman
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Noone has proved me wrong yet, so I don't really need luck.


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Napalm
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I am only for abortion is its rape of the baby has complications.


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Linkalicious
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I'm a male, so it's not my decision to make.

I leave that decision ultimately up to the female, and as her partner...i fully support her in whatever decision she chooses.


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quote:
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
I just think there's plenty of couples out there, that would love to have a baby. I see no reason for murder to take place. And why is it the womans chocice? what if, (not talking rape case) but what if the Father wanted the baby, he shld have just as much right to that child as the mother, I mean really she couldn't have had it by herself.


well, to be brutally blunt, a man is only necessary for 10 seconds - the woman has to carry the baby around for nine months, deal with depression, hormones, loneliness, rejection, her body ravaged, mood swings, not even feeling like a woman anymore!

...just to see both sides...

and before anyone yells at me, I know many men have an active involvement, my dad was one of them, my parents completely took it in turns to feed me, change me, etc, even when my dad had to go to work early the next day! Although, he never had to carry around 7lbs extra... unless he had donut weakness wink


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oh, and i forgot the hours of agonising labour!


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Julie
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Wow, who resurrected this relevant dinosaur?
I still believe abortion is wrong; everyone deserves a chance at life...even if it is dark, dreary, fraught with worry and hate....life is special and ought to at least be guarded.

Concerning rape victims....wow, that's just a touchy subject, but think of it this way, someone did you wrong and now you have an unwanted child...keep the child...find comfort in that new innocent life


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Fiery Eyes
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Yes, being a woman myself i know that the woman goes thru the pain and agony of labor and carrying the baby, but i still think the man had the right in the decision of abortion, it shldn't be taken from him.

I'm against abortion anyways so, i dont thk anyone shld have them.


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sailormoon
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I say abortion is wrong... end of story. If you get raped, at least have the child. You can put it up for adoption but don't kill it. The only reason I really see that would cause the mama to think about it is if her life was at stake. Other than that, it's just wrong!


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Predator 89
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I for one am pro life, this topic is very black and white abortion is not only killing a living organism but what could have been...

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against it..under 1 condition

the ONLY time i think abortion is "OK" is when the child has a SERIOUS disorder, affecting general life, breathing is a job kinda disorder. Otherwise, its a child, NOT a choice. Just cuz kids or ppl in general cant.. hold themselves... doesnt mean they just kill the child they produce.


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I'm completely pro-choice....one one has the right to tell someone what to do with their body, period.


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The Omega
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WD> “If you do jump on bed together use protection.” That – of course – goes without saying!
But condoms may break – and even the pill isn’t 100 % safe.
I’m not talking about using abortions as some awkward kind of backward protection. That’s why sexual education is very important in schools everywhere. We get it here in DK when we reach our teens – complete with how people get pregnant and how to prevent it (amidst – naturally – an awful lot of giggling and flushing faces – but hey, we got the idea.)

FE>”I disagree, the woman said yes just like the man did, he shld have rights too.”
Said “yes” to what? To having sex? Sure – but most of the time we humans don’t have sex to have children – but just because it’s extremely pleasurable.

“She can't have a baby w/o man. If a woman doesn't want kids, then she shld take all the necessary precautions to NOT have them.”
Protection does not always work, you know?

“Killing an innocent baby is not the answer, just cuz someone forgot to use protection 1 nite.”
Don’t tell me you’re one of the deluded people who think a 7-week old cluster of cells is a baby in mini-format???

“Not that thats the only way it happens just using that as an example. It is LIFE in you.”
NOT independent life, you know. Take out the cluster of cells or fetus and see how long it survives on it’s own. It won’t… therefore it depends on the woman’s body, and since my body is MINE I decide what will be done to it. Not you, not someone else and not society either.

“Kids & adults are educated in birth control now adays. Most people are on a pill of some sort. But the best birth control is absence.”
Absence? Do you mean abstinence? No it isn’t. We humans come complete with hormones and a drive to have sex. Not having sex will make you sick in the head.
I suppose you tell fat people to just NOT eat, just as you’re telling homosexuals to JUST not be attracted to those they’re attracted to. Sorry, toots, but life is not that simple.

Julie> Keep a child that’s the result of rape? Are you utterly insane? Right, sure, let the poor rape-victim be reminded of the rapist every day for the rest of her life!?

Predator> “What could have been”? What about all the poor, uneducated, starving kids that ARE brought into this world and don’t have a chance in life because of those circumstances? What about the girl who may now never get an education, a cool job and a comfy life because self-proclaimed “holier-than-thou” royally ****** up her life?
What could have been with HER life?


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THE ONLY TIME ABORTIONS ARE OK, IS WHEN THE CHILD IS IN SEVERE DANGER OF HAVING A PAINFUL DEATH. OTHERWISE, ITS A CHILD, NOOOOOT A CHOICE!!!


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The Omega
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Geeh - stop yelling. Shouting won't make you right, you know?
And yes - it is a choice!


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