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So do I. Too many people who are ill equipped to rear children on many levels (financially, emotionally, cognitively) are having them. It creates problems for everyone. You end up with overcrowded classrooms, higher crime rates, more pollution etc. I know it may seem like a cynical vantage point, but that's how I see it.


A little too cynical for my tastes, but you do have a point. Another point is that, babies born from incest related pregnancies tend to have mentail deficiencies. Some families decide to go the route of abortion to avoid the hardships that both their child and their family as a whole will have to endure.

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You won't adopt, why should anyone else?

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Me not adopting has nothing to do with it. There are a shitlod of couples out there willing to adopt a healthy infant. Me not being one of them means crap.


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It is better to let a child live with those promblems then kill them.Who are we to say who should die and who should live?jm


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It is better to let a child live with those promblems then kill them.Who are we to say who should die and who should live?jm


When you put it that way it makes sense, but still... a child's life is a precious thing. If it's going to end due to problems and issues, it's better to end the misery and agony before it even begins. That's my point of view.

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When you put it that way it makes sense, but still... a child's life is a precious thing. If it's going to end due to problems and issues, it's better to end the misery and agony before it even begins. That's my point of view.
that'smy POV. But I feel the need to say that the problems must be severe.


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Glad someone argees with me with that.You never know life always finds a way no matter what.The child could be happy even if he or she does have promblems.
See alot of hanicap kids and none of them seem sad at all.All of them are quite happy.There was not one time I saw a kid that was sad because it was disable always smiling those kids are the special ones!jm


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Me not adopting has nothing to do with it. There are a shitlod of couples out there willing to adopt a healthy infant. Me not being one of them means crap.


So because people "decide" they want a kid, women should endure child birth to give them the results with none of the work? Crap.

In the event they cannot conceive, it's sucky, but they are not owed a child.

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Maybe so, but what about when they reach adulthood (which I may remind you, some of them don't) Don't you think they're going to have very rough lives to the point where that want to die? Dammit... I'm starting to sound cynical myself...

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Maybe so, but what about when they reach adulthood (which I may remind you, some of them don't) Don't you think they're going to have very rough lives to the point where that want to die? Dammit... I'm starting to sound cynical myself...

But, if they reach that point it still ends up being their choice. Abortion doesn't give them a choice at all.


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It is better to let a child live with those promblems then kill them.Who are we to say who should die and who should live?jm


It's up to the parents (the mother in particular) to decide. It's not like we get together on some committee and decide who's fetus we're going to whack. Also, sometimes death is honestly a more benign option for many unborn children.


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How is killing a baby honest?It is not.Who to say the mother should choose.Why should any mother have to choose to kill her baby or not?What gives anyone the right to even think of killing another human being?
Anyway got to go.Talk to you tomorrow!jm


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How is killing a baby honest?It is not.Who to say the mother should choose.Why should any mother have to choose to kill her baby or not?What gives anyone the right to even think of killing another human being?
Anyway got to go.Talk to you tomorrow!jm


Well, if a mother doesn't feel she's fit or ready to raise a baby, giving it up for adoption or abortion are the two options that come to mind.


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Well, if a mother doesn't feel she's fit or ready to raise a baby, giving it up for adoption or abortion are the two options that come to mind.


Hopefully Adoption is the first to come to mind, but I will reiterate, sometimes the only sincere course of action is an abortion. Not to be cruel or inhumane, but to be just the opposite. Sometimes the best way to be a parent is to not be one at all.

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Hopefully Adoption is the first to come to mind, but I will reiterate, sometimes the only sincere course of action is an abortion. Not to be cruel or inhumane, but to be just the opposite. Sometimes the best way to be a parent is to not be one at all.


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So because people "decide" they want a kid, women should endure child birth to give them the results with none of the work? Crap.

In the event they cannot conceive, it's sucky, but they are not owed a child.

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So the woman has to go through nine months of being uncomfortable. Big ****ing deal. A small price to pay to bring a new being into the world.


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So the woman has to go through nine months of being uncomfortable. Big ****ing deal. A small price to pay to bring a new being into the world.


Damn straight. They know pregnancy sucks. So more pushing, less bitc.hing.


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So the woman has to go through nine months of being uncomfortable. Big ****ing deal. A small price to pay to bring a new being into the world.


Basically, if a women is uncomfortable, it justifies killing.
What's even worst is that killing unborn babies is okay because it not legally human.


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[QUOTE=9020065]Originally posted by Grinning Goku
[B]AMEN, BROTHER!!!!!



LOL THE HULKSTER! I mean... embarrasment I concur

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So the woman has to go through nine months of being uncomfortable. Big ****ing deal. A small price to pay to bring a new being into the world.


Okay dude... that's kinda unfair. We don't know what women go through when they're pregneant. "It's like taking your lower lip and stretching it all the way to the back of your neck"

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So the woman has to go through nine months of being uncomfortable. Big ****ing deal. A small price to pay to bring a new being into the world.


It's so easy to say that knowing you'll never, ever have to do it, isn't it?

Sickening, pro-foetus bs.

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