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Concussive force is also being applied to the attacks.

Her force field is made for all kinetic attacks, including TK.

What's Superman best, non hyperbole, strength ft.

Why can't she take away his eyes?

How is he going to recover from a shield in his heart?

Hulk has better strength fts along with Sentry.


Some blasts have some concussive properties but generally no where near the level of a physical strike. For example, a laser beam has some momentum but many magnitudes less than a particle of mass moving at general speeds.

She cant take his eyes away silly. What's wrong with you? She can make them invisible. They are still there. Do you think that Sue is intangible or transports somewhere else when she is invisible?

A shield in his heart will do nothing. She has to expand the shield to do something. Then you have to prove that her force of expanding shields exceed that of the durability of Superman.
Also is the fact that Superman wouldnt be sitting there. He would be attacking. She would have to concentrate on defense and not so much on offense until she sees her shields holding (in which they won't).

Superman's greatest strength feat (which is the best quantifiable strength feat of all of comics) is when he broke the chains used to tow stars between galaxies. That feat is possibly more than millions of stellar weights of force.

A far lesser feat is Destroying a planet by jumping off (which is far less than punching) with a small fraction of his power is beyond anything Sentry has done.

Superman has many lesser feats beyond anything Sentry has done

What is Sentry's best strength feat?


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That's not happening. She has trapped some of the strongest beings in her shields and has even withstood Celestial level attacks. You're just saying sh**.
And you are full of it with your Marvel fanism.

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Superman can manipulate kinetic energy too.

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I'm not sure about this. But based on the information I got here, Sue's powers seem to have to directly clash with Superman's invulnerability

Given that, Superman's cells can't be affect by Captain Comet's telekinesis
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[Year1] Captain Comet's telekinesis can't affect his super cell structure

https://ibb.co/M8HnQKT


And his super dense structure also made Flash can't vibrate through
https://ibb.co/qpkm11m

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^ Superman has been affected by telekinesis.


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Isn't this just your typical fight between Manchester Black and Superman? Superman rarely uses his super-speed to begin with.

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What does TK have to do with anything here? IW doesn't have TK. She creates invisible constructs and in which she can move them around or alter their size.

The thread is pretty much over.
Superman's best durability is beyond her best feat.
Superman's strength is beyond her best feat.

Superman one shots her force field which koes her instantly. Superman doesn't even have to touch her.


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^ Superman has been affected by telekinesis.

Ok? But I didn't claim he never has been affected by TK?

The point was, Invisible Woman's powers seem based on physical strength to hurt Superman, and Superman's invulnerability extends to his inner/even smaller structures( his inner organs, his cells, his molecules etc)

So it's not like Sue can easily incapacitate Superman once she going to inner force fields strategy. Superman isn't defenseless against such attacks

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What does TK have to do with anything here? IW doesn't have TK. She creates invisible constructs and in which she can move them around or alter their size.

The thread is pretty much over.
Superman's best durability is beyond her best feat.
Superman's strength is beyond her best feat.

Superman one shots her force field which koes her instantly. Superman doesn't even have to touch her.


It's similar to TK and Superman internals has been compromised before.

https://imgur.io/a/HMsOi


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Ok? But I didn't claim he never has been affected by TK?

The point was, Invisible Woman's powers seem based on physical strength to hurt Superman, and Superman's invulnerability extends to his inner/even smaller structures( his inner organs, his cells, his molecules etc)

So it's not like Sue can easily incapacitate Superman once she going to inner force fields strategy. Superman isn't defenseless against such attacks


You're wrong here...

https://imgur.io/a/HMsOi


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You're wrong here...

https://imgur.io/a/HMsOi

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Ok? But I didn't claim he never has been affected by TK?

Do you know what I was saying before typing.......

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It's similar to TK and Superman internals has been compromised before.

https://imgur.io/a/HMsOi


Its not similar. In that case Green Lanterns have TK (they don't).

Nice cherry picking. Now show the scans where Superman's insides are just as invulnerable as his outside.
She puts bubbles inside people and expands them. Her force of expanding has to exceed Superman's durability.


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You're wrong here...

https://imgur.io/a/HMsOi

Two pages later he kicked the asses of every elite member including black.


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Two pages later he kicked the asses of every elite member including black.


He sure did. Doesn't change the fact at what happened there.


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Its not similar. In that case Green Lanterns have TK (they don't).

Nice cherry picking. Now show the scans where Superman's insides are just as invulnerable as his outside.
She puts bubbles inside people and expands them. Her force of expanding has to exceed Superman's durability.


It's the same thing, lmao. I don't need to show you anything. I've already showed you his insides being tampered with to the point of him getting a stroke. All she needs to do is clog his arteries or open a shield in his brain.


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That is like saying Hulk has been hurt by Thor's hammer, so now every random gangster with a hammer can beat the shit out of Hulk

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That is like saying Hulk has been hurt by Thor's hammer, so now every random gangster with a hammer can beat the shit out of Hulk
That's a perfect breakdown of what C9 has been doing against Superman and others he don't like for years.

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That is like saying Hulk has been hurt by Thor's hammer, so now every random gangster with a hammer can beat the shit out of Hulk



You alls argument is that, Sue can't hurt his insides. The scan I posted proves the exact opposite. His insides can be tampered with. This isn't the only instance either. Currently looking for a scan where his brain was being tampered with.


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It's the same thing, lmao. I don't need to show you anything. I've already showed you his insides being tampered with to the point of him getting a stroke. All she needs to do is clog his arteries or open a shield in his brain.


She doesn't have TK
Showing a scan of someone using TK fails to prove anything. Those are totally different powers with totally different mechanisms.

Also she doesn't get his feats. If Superman has insane feats of durability (both inside and out) and someone hurts him then that's their feat, no one else's.

How would you feel knowing that Hulk withstood forces beyond 1000 tons multiple times but someone cherry picks the times where Hulk got bloodied from one punch from Thing and one shot koed by Namor and use those showings to argue while ignoring all the times he tanked forces over 1000 tons?

Superman's insides can withstand forces beyond 1000 tons. Do you have any feats showing that she can exert that level of force to expand her bubbles? She doesn't get MB's feats. She gets only her own.


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Speed is equalized (Sue Storm level). Who's taking this?


Why are you making threads about characters you know nothing about?


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