Kinda true ngl, and most of these plebs have only watched the anime when the manga is by far the superior version of the story simply because it shows how incredibly skilled Toriyama really is as a draftsman, especially for a shonen artist. Almost no one in manga can convey time and movement the way he does.
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TBH, I feel Fate series(or Type-Moon to be more accurate) would be more in-line with the power-scaling of comics, especially Star Wars series
Both of them have multiple writers, games, novels. So its power scaling seems to be akin to comics rather other anime/manga
For whatever reason, Toriyama seems to view lifting strength and striking strength as two completely different things.
On one hand, Goku evidently needed SS to lift a total of 40 tons(10 tons on each extremity.) On the other hand, he can kick you so hard into a mountain that it shatters on impact. The disparity between these two 'forms' of physical strength has never made sense to me, but that's Tori for you. /shrug
Apart from whipping up that gadget out of thin air which allowed Goku to summon him, Zen-Oh has only ever shown the ability to destroy things(albeit to a much greater extent than anyone else in the franchise.) And yeah, he isn't a fighter(as confirmed by Whis and Beerus), and required a "GodPad" to follow the movements of the noteworthy fighters during the ToP. He has also never displayed resistance to any external attacks, ever... So toss a coin regarding his overall durability. /shrug
The only reason why Zen-Oh seems to be regarded as DB's #1 is because he can erase anything he wants on a whim. Aside from that, he hasn't demonstrated any noteworthy versatility at all.
He's basically like if you gave a little boy the UN, and told him to just click the button whenever he didn't like something -- most still wouldn't dare challenge him out of fear of being erased, even if they could beat the shit out of him one on one.
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i just think there are so many more anime/manga that have characters with way more interesting powersets than db, for example naruto for much of its faults are much better at depicting their world and the shinobi's powers. it makes much better fight because it's not just flying punching and shooting beams. there are strategies involved in their fighting
they are also less absurd with their power levels so you can match up naruto characters with meta level comic people.
also unrelated note check out spy x family such good show
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Zen-Oh isn't 'weak'. He can effortlessly erase absolutely anything in DB. I'm just saying that he has never displayed any real versatility aside from pure destruction, and seems rather finite in many other areas. So trying to put him on the level of actual Supreme Beings(ala Marvel/DC) doesn't work.
As for why no one has tried to usurp Zen-Oh's position, there are a few main reasons:
1.) If he gets wind of your treachery, he'll casually erase you.
2.) He resides in a 'realm' that is completely separate from the mainstream multiverse(only Supreme Kais and Angels can even access this place.)
3.) He has the strongest Angel(along with a few guards of yet undisclosed power) protecting him.
4*.) It is also possible that he might have staggering physicals and a bunch of other esoteric abilities, and we have just never seen him resort to those.
That said, Zen-Oh is pretty safe/untouchable while in his palace.
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But in DB, I feel like the disparity between lifting strength and striking strength is even more pronounced. Like Goku can struggle to lift 10 tons with one arm, but can then use that same arm to punch his opponent so hard that they go flying through mountains like a hot knife through butter. I dunno, the math has just never math'd to me when it comes to 'strength feats' in DB... I suppose it's just better to just treat lifting and striking as two completely different areas of physical strength. /shrug
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