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DarkSaint85
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Superman definition of Nothing is obviously different than a human definition of Nothing. I don't know why you keep comparing him to a human when that is obviously not the case. Going from 100 to 0 instantly doesn't even make sense. Especially considering the last punch killing both and Doomsday going all out the entire time. He compared his tiredness to a human. Exhausted, etc... and even while tired, we are still never at zero. I'm seeing it as him saying he has nothing left to continue fighting, but he is tired, drained, and exhausted and gave everything he had left in that final blow that killed both of them.


So the scan is wrong then, he DID have something left in the tank. Not NOTHING.

HMM.


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So an all out Ben is able to oneshot the Hulk? Good to know.


There we have it, guys. Full Capacity, Ben Grimm can oneshot Hulk.


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So the scan is wrong then, he DID have something left in the tank. Not NOTHING.

HMM.


Nothing in the sense of a super human like him, but not aunt may, lol.


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There we have it, guys. Full Capacity, Ben Grimm can oneshot Hulk.


You read what you want to read. I literally told you that Ben beat a MIND CONTROLLED Hulk who was still stronger and more powerful than him.


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Nothing in the sense of a super human like him, but not aunt may, lol.


He literally says he's tired, not in the way superhumans are, but like humans are. He has nothing left. We. ARE accepting the scan, right?

Like you said, it's not YOUR words, it's Superman's. He literally says he has NOTHING (your emphasis).

Or are you saying the words are wrong now laughing out loud
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You read what you want to read. I literally told you that Ben beat a MIND CONTROLLED Hulk who was still stronger and more powerful than him.


Well then Ben obviously only beat him because Hulk was compromised, then. The scan literally tells us how brawn (i.e. strength) has nothing to do with it.

Good scan though.


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He literally says he's tired, not in the way superhumans are, but like humans are. He has nothing left. We. ARE accepting the scan, right?

Like you said, it's not YOUR words, it's Superman's. He literally says he has NOTHING (your emphasis).

Or are you saying the words are wrong now laughing out loud


Well then Ben obviously only beat him because Hulk was compromised, then. The scan literally tells us how brawn (i.e. strength) has nothing to do with it.

Good scan though.



The scan stays. The plot of the story match other stories from heros vs the villains.

What I'm literally telling you is while compromised, Hulk was still stronger and more powerful than Ben and withstood everything Ben threw at him with a smile. Again, compromised Hulk>>>>Ben and Ben was still able to knock Hulk out at the end. He would've died if he didn't.


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The scan stays. The plot of the story match other stories from heros vs the villains.

What I'm literally telling you is while compromised, Hulk was still stronger and more powerful than Ben and withstood everything Ben threw at him with a smile. Again, compromised Hulk>>>>Ben and Ben was still able to knock Hulk out at the end. He would've died if he didn't.

Yes, like I said, good scan.

So remind me, since you said this:
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I didn't say anything, Superman did, lol.


And the scan CLEARLY states he has NOTHING left in the tank lmao.

This you, right?

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Lol... I don't have to say anything, Superman literally said he had NOTHING in the tank....


So he kills Doomsday with NOTHING in the tank (except you now say he had reserves).

Which is it? He has reserves, or he has NOTHING in the tank?

He even says he's tired like how humans are tired, with nothing in the tank, lmao. So there's your point about superhumans (lol) shot down by your own scan.

Good scan, Carvy. Superman at 0% can kill Doomsday and shatter windows and set off earthquakes around the world etc etc.


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I'm so confused now lol. How are they not all examples of dynamic strength?

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I'm so confused now lol. How are they not all examples of dynamic strength?


Adrenaline rush. Whatever you want to call it. Every character has displayed this. It's not the kind of dynamic strength Hulk has. Not even close.


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Superman recently admitted he was getting weaker in his fight against Doomsday and that he had no energy.

You’re implying that Superman has infinite strength.
Eventhough he was getting weaker or was at one of his weakest point, he was able to call on enough strenght to one shot doomsday who was making a fodder out of him and was only getting stronger.


Also like the Superman destroying the planet when jumping off after he was nearly all delated where his ability to fly was in question. He was still able to fall on enough strength to leap off the planet and destroy it just by jumping off. Either he has dynamic strength or its infinite and he can access it even in a nearly depleted state. Which one?

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And I agree with carver , Superman has infinite strength instead of dynamic, it’s all based on his mindset.

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Spidey has his whole rising to the occasion stick, and Lobo has his multiversal explanation, Thor has his Warrior Madness but that's it I think?


Adrenaline gives all of us dynamic strength, if you want to get technical.

And in comics it obviously does miracles of a greater degree.


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I don't think you know what "one shot" mean, Diesl".


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He thinks that's what happens when he jizzes on the Men's Health magazine with Henry Cavill on its cover and goes to sleep thumb up


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He thinks that's what happens when he jizzes on the Men's Health magazine with Henry Cavill on its cover and goes to sleep thumb up


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Which means he had enough strength to accomplish a goal. The fight went downhill for both after that. There's no other way around it. Superman even admitted in the older scenes that his legs were feeling wobbly. Are you saying Superman is lying above when he said he was tired and drained?

How did he get that strength when he had nothing in the tank as you said?


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How did he get that strength when he had nothing in the tank as you said?


I don't know. Maybe because of the same reason Danger stomped the entire Xmen including Beast and a more powerful Danger gets wrecked by Beast in later issues...

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Beast has dynamic strength as well.


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