Which is fine. While I've already listed a whole bunch of things these plot device Legion rings have been on-panel capable of doing... within the context of this particular story? Yeah, Superman got bonked on the head by a security guard goon.
Which means Earthman punches like a girl. Don't conflate your intentions with Smurph's. You simply could've agreed with me fromt he get-go that Earthman punches like a girl when I first brought it up. But, no. You went on to sh1t up this entire page by making excuses with Colossal Boy, "dynamic strength" and "dynamic skillz".
In my opinions, I think it's like many characters that seem to vary skills in some degrees
For example, Black Adam's skills seem vary in his fights against Batman and against Deathstroke(Dark Crisis)
And even Batman's fights with Deathstroke seem very in skills throughout their many fights
Clark...you alone have the heart, the strength, to do what is needed. For those we love, for the entire Multiverse...
Bruce....I.....I don't know if I can. It's too much....
You CAN, Clark, goddammit! Dick is gone, we have no-one else, now go out there and shake that ass until the Antimonitor throws some hundreds in the sky and makes it rain!!!!! You KNOW how to **** drop, I know you can!!!
It’s not that powerless Supes is better than Batman hand to hand, it’s not even that he’s better than Owlman, who even Bats has struggled with, it’s just a good feat for him. And totally admissible for discussion, especially when considering he doesn’t have many hand to hand fights against elite fighters while powerless. In general though, when it calls for it, on rare occasion, he’s looked mostly pretty capable.
It would need to be consistent to elevate him. Like when he started railroading super high end threats regularly and people where like that’s just a rare hero overcoming odds they all do it, but then it happened every few months for two and a half decades.
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Nobody said it wasn't admissible. But everything you just said (Supes isn't actually more skilled than Batman, or Owlman) shows how disingenuous this question is:
You want the AU Batmen to stand in for Batman when arguing Superman's skill relative to Cyclops, but you abandon that argument if we compare Superman to Bruce. And you just can't have it both ways.
He never implied the Batmen were equal to Bruce. He implied the Batmen were close enough in skill (or just great in skill in general) where beating them is significantly better than tagging Logan.
Lastly, beating someone in a comic doesnt always mean you are better than them. Think about it?
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