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Full transcript of Neo/Architect convo

for those of you who still don't believe Neo is a program.
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The Architect - Hello, Neo.

Neo - Who are you?

The Architect - I am the Architect. I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and although the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo - Why am I here?

The Architect - Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly, which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided, it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you, inexorably, here.

Neo - You haven't answered my question.

The Architect - Quite right. Interesting. That was quicker than the others.

*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Others? What others? How many? Answer me!"*

The Architect - The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the sixth version.

*Again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Five versions? Three? I've been lied too. This is bullshit."*

Neo: There are only two possible explanations: either no one told me, or no one knows.

The Architect - Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly's systemic, creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

*Once again, the responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "You can't control me! F*ck you! I'm going to kill you! You can't make me do anything!*

Neo - Choice. The problem is choice.

*The scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architect's room*

The Architect - The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime. A triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is as apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus, the answer was stumbled upon by another, an intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo - The Oracle.

The Architect - Please. As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99.9% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked, would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo - This is about Zion.

The Architect - You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed. Its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo - Bullshit.

*The responses of the other Ones appear on the monitors: "Bullshit!"*

The Architect - Denial is the most predictable of all human responses. But, rest assured, this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

*Scene cuts to Trinity fighting an agent, and then back to the Architects room.*

The Architect - The function of the One is now to return to the source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male, to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash killing everyone connected to the matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo - You won't let it happen, you can't. You need human beings to survive.

The Architect - There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However, the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility for the death of every human being in this world.

*The Architect presses a button on a pen that he is holding, and images of people from all over the matrix appear on the monitors*

The Architect - It is interesting reading your reactions. Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication, a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the one. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific. Vis-a-vis, love.

*Images of Trinity fighting the agent from Neo's dream appear on the monitors*

Neo - Trinity.

The Architect - Apropos, she entered the matrix to save your life at the cost of her own.

Neo - No!

The Architect - Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning, and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.

*Neo walks to the door on his left*

The Architect - Humph. Hope, it is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength, and your greatest weakness.

Neo - If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

The Architect - We won't.

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did it ever occur to any1 that the architect could be lying about Neo just being an accident created by the matrix so that the "one" can be destroyed to prevent human beings being freed? perhaps the others before neo believed the architect and so complied with the architect and died? thats just my conclusion to it because if neo is a program then why cant other programs like the oracle or mervingian leave the matrix like neo?


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Or maby he is not a program .... he is only programed to have special powers and abillities ... making him the one


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"Your five predecessors were by design based on a similar predication"


sure..............humans are "designed" now eh?............


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the chemical precursors that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason.

I dont think machines have chemical precusors do they? or emotion? ......maybe they dont im not sure :P

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well humans are grown by the machines. perhaps an anomely(sp?) occured while Neo was being "grown" as with his predecessors??


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I've read a few spoilers that say "Neo" is actually a program that was inserted into Thomas Anderson's head while he was still in the pod.........the Neo program is actually "the one", the anomoly.......which would make Neo half human half machine...........a human body with a program in the brain (just like Bane is right now.......human body but with the Smith program in the head)...............

ofcourse you can never believe spoilers to be true but this one makes alot of sense and does go along with everything we've seen in the movies........................even the fact that Neo knew something was wrong with the world, he didn't know what or how but somehow he knew it wasn't real........which lead him to search out Morpheus to find out what the Matrix was. Isn't it funny that he even knew of the Matrix at the beginning of M1 and was looking for Morpheus to tell him what it was?

Magee.........human bodies have chemical precursers........which Neo has, his human body is that of Thomas Anderson.............emotion? Programs have emotions..........emotions are the affect of intelligence, artificial intelligence is intelligence and produced emotion all the same.........did you not catch that Persephone is a program in Reloaded but was in love once and wanted to feel it again.........


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he's gotta be part machine. just look how he delivers his lines.

*rim shot*


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good point............that is probably the best arguement ever.......


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Read this

Maybe you should check out
matrix-explained.com

It has a special section dealing exactly with this problem:
"Is Neo a program?"

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Were the monitor previous ones or other choices he could make.


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Choices..........

The anomoly has occured 5 times..........Thomas Anderson however has not been re-encarnated 5 times.........those screens represented the possible choices that were running through his mind at the time........


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Whether the TV Neos are possible choices or not is also explained at
matrix-explained.com


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It says they they are prevous ones in matrix-explained.com but if they were than zion would have been destroyed the first time because all of the ones went to the left door.


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quote:
Originally posted by freemind
It says they they are prevous ones in matrix-explained.com


No it says it is very likely they were NOT the previous ones.

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The architect is a program that is standing in for all the machines that created the Matrix.


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