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I think apocalypse will win......cuz he can increase his strength unlimitedly

Unlimitedly?? lol. Yea i think Apocolypse may win, though it would be close. I mean hulk would get seriously pissed off and he would keep getting stronger and madder and madder. Apocolypse would maybe retreat after a while.

Apocolypse would take Hulk for a walk through outerspace and bring him back a pacifist, then kick his ass

Im a huge Hulk fan but i would still have to give to apoc here...im not saying apoc would increase his strength indefinitely and knock the hulk out with one punch....people who think apoc would win this fight on strength or misinformed....Apoc and Hulk are both terribly strong, neither have actually demonstrated they have a limit to their strength...however Hulk has shown many more incredible displays of strength...nonetheless, Apoc is one of the smartest guys on the planet, i think he would use his unearthly intellect and arsenal to beat the Hulk...but just like in the case of Onslought....I couldnt see the Hulk really losing a fist fight to the likes Apoc...to beat Apoc u need to be more well rounded, and probably not just one person, but a team instead...Professor Hulk would have the best chance at Apoc, although his cocky overconfidence would probably be his downfall...or a completely mindless Hulk who is so far unbeatable...the best way to take Apoc is with another really smart, perhaps even evil character...like Kang (his first real adversary)...or a team, like a full roster of the x-men led by Xavier....or even the Fantastic Four...who would be very fun to watch take on Apoc.

yea he has been neating by some chumps now that i think of it....maybe Hulk would win

Pro. Hulk would win, Apoc has jobbed to weaker Characters and Hulk has beaten more powerfull than Apoc.

I do think its unfair for apocalypse to keep using these previous fights as basis. he lost to these people/mutants because of the hero/villain concept. but if we're gonna talk about apocalypse by just analyzing his abilities as stated by marvel, i think he can be one of the most powerful beings on this planet. i really think being beaten by archangel was crap. anyway as to the thread, apocalypse would win. not because of strength but because of genius.

The Hulk make mad to his villains and he can smashed them!!!!

very true.....

very true what? is that even English?

apocalypse only lost to stryfe because he had just been woke up from his rejuvination chamber. had he been at full strength from his awakening it would have been different. as for this fight i think hulk would lose. apocalypse usually isn't thrown aside physically either. a physical battle would only lead to hulk losing IMO. look at Hulk #456, apocalypse is standing behind hulk with one of those tentacle things draped across his mouth and restraining him, telling hulk its useless to do so. even when he upgraded him to war, he said that hulks power exceeded everybodies but his own. i doubt he would create something more powerful than himself........ which brings me to archangel. when did he trash apoc......... supposedly?

when apoc upgraded hulk to warhulk, did hulk fight back?

nope, but i'm sure apocalypse probably had a failsafe device/strategy in place. but i'm just stating what happened by his own account.

Why did the Hulk fights Apocalypse?

he didn't.......... apocalypse wanted to implant him with celestial tech, because he wanted hulk to harness the power from both universes that he was drawing in. so he had to subdue him, so he could fill hulk in on his plan's.

Apoc has been beaten many times....and alway from someone with far less raw power than himself (which would include just about everyone on the the planet)

except the hulk................... hulk is outmatched.

could somebody please state all these defeats that apocalypse has had? main stream marvel. let's disregaurd alternate time lines/what if's things like that.

well he DIED....at the hands of some puny x-men.....i think that is evidence enough....yes apoc has more raw power than the hulk (arguably), but apoc has had 5000 years for his powers to develop, yes even the hulk managed to conquer the earth after being aroung for a 100 years...lots of characters would be unstopable after 500 yrs

he didn't die from a physical battle though. he was up against mutants with abilities far greater than his. they destroyed his phsyche. had they physically confronted him, they would have been decimated.

the Hulk can win.

Apoc would win this fight...but someone like Mindless Hulk...well who knows. he's pretty nuts when he needs to be.

All save maybe Grey Hulk give current Apocalypse a run for his money. Mindless, Savage, and Professor damn sure can beat him.

Old, original Apocalypse beats all versions.

hmmm....i need to think about that

ya, its definetley not one you know the answer to right away. a real good match up here.

What do you think?

I love the Hulk but Apocalypse would win.

if its the most recent A-poc, i can see Hulk winning. but if its the old school A-poc, he is more than capable of beating Hulk.

The old Apocalypse is invincible so he would probably just kill the Hulk.

apocalypse is more then capable of taking down the hulk

Everything makes me want to say Hulk but some reason I think apocalypse will win

Hulk. Hulk is more well known and feared than Apocalypse. Thor, SS, FF, Doom, Avengers, X-Men, etc. view Hulk as a credible threat and give a damn. Apocalypse, well when was the last Thor, Doom, or the FF gave a f#ck who Nur was? Maybe if he'd stop sitting on his ass and atleast go on some rampage or whatelse; people might give a rats a$$ about his message.

Hulk's "Hulk is the strongest one there is" is more profound to heroes and villains than Apocalypse's "survival of the fittest." And it's funny isn't it, that a retard green monster can come up with his own credo, while the intellectual known as En Sabah Nur uses somebody else's words to live by.

In a fight, Apocalypse would get his nut's cracked by Hulk.

All fan favortism aside, Apocalypse wins. Physical 'strength' is basically a wash between these two, as is durability. Apocalypse can morph his right hand into a rail gun, blast a hole through Hulks chest, and though Hulk would keep coming, that gash in his chest would give Apoc a chance to use another of his abilities: The ability to increase his mass. He reaches into the gash and enlarges his hand to a point that makes Hulk's body bust at the seems from the inside.

With one hand.

Just like Gladiator, Apocalypse simply brings too much to the table in a logical, 'all powers at play' fight with Hulk. Apocalypse doesn't only have strength to rely on, he can grant himself ANY PHYSICAL ABILITY IMAGINABLE. Think about that.

Apocalypse wins.

Hulk doesn't possess any psychic or astral abilities that would harm Apocalypse, and Apocalypse can make himself invulnerable to any form of physical attack (which is well within his powers). ANY PHYSICAL ATTACK. All Hulk has are physical attacks.

Apocalypse wins.

Hulk is simply outmatched in terms of intellect, arsenal and versatility.

But Apocalypse cannot overwhelm, outfight or out attack Hulk in terms of full on assault. Hulk isn't gonna have any doubts, Apocalypse doesn't like it when he is faced with someone who can beat him or who doesn't get intimidated.

Apoc can win by all means but I think Hulk would pull more wins out of 10 than Apocalypse.

-AC

Hulk is strongest one there is! Hulk PWNZ Poccy cuz Hulk is the best! PH33R HULK. yaaaaay!



Hey, AC, I'm actually surprised that you ceded so much to Poccy. I would have thought that you'd think that Hulk could own Poccy.

I don't know who would win. Poccy has great defensive capabilities, and it would be pretty much impossible for Hulk to actually land a punch on Poccy. But Poccy's offensive might is questionable. When has he ever decisively put down a heavy hitting opponent? I mean...EVER? I don't think it's EVER happened. Here are Poccy's only real superfights:

Namor - draw
Stryfe - loss
Magneto (AOA) - loss
High Evolutionary - draw
Ikaris - draw (had the better of him)
Loki - draw
Calbain - draw

He's never decisively beaten anybody aside from members of teams. And members of teams are there to get beaten decisively, so it's not a feat.

Poccy's overrated.

"Hey, AC, I'm actually surprised that you ceded so much to Poccy. I would have thought that you'd think that Hulk could own Poccy. "

Hulk isn't actually my favourite character. I know when people can do shit against him, the fact is Hulk really is the shit. I don't think I've overhyped him one bit since I've been on this forum.

Surfer is my fav but he's not a fighter so it's pointless having him in threads.

-AC

All Apocalypse would really have to do is grab Hulk and morph his hands into a 10 foot thick adamantium vacuum chamber to suffocate Hulk. Sh*t, or just one of is hands. That's well within the realm of Apoc's abilities. I'd consider that 'overwhelming' Hulk. Hulk's been caged before, and unlike the greedy US government who would want Hulk alive to study his powers as a potential weapon, Apoc would trap Hulk to kill.

Apocalypse would win, and in a best of 10, I'd take Apocalypse's equal if not superior strength, superior durability and firepower to Hulk's "You don't want to see me when I'm pissed homie!!!! I can punch really, really hard and jump really, really far!!!!!".

Apocalypse could grab Hulk, morph his hands into a giant cannon, and shoot Hulk into space.

Or Apocalypse could grab Hulk, grow ridiculously big, and lift his hand into outer space with Hulk still grappled in it.

That's also well within Apocalypse's abilities.

It's really not fair. If it was just a fist fight, I'd give it to Hulk. I like Hulk more by far. But Apoc has too many ways of beating Hulk with all of his abilities at play, and all Hulk brings is strength and rage.

There's a term "Fool's rush in".

Hulk would rush in on some old "HULK SMASH EGYPTIAN X-TERNAL IN NEED OF SEVERE CHAPSTICK" and be overwhelmed by all that Apocalypse brings to the fight. I mean, Apoc could just stand there and let Hulk hit him without Hulk knowing that Apocalypse has adjusted his molecular structure to something similar to Sebatian Shaw and every punch Hulk hit's him with makes Apocalypse stronger and stronger. That too is well within Apocalypse's abilities.

It's really a one sided fight given everything Apocalypse is capable of.

Why does everyone have some undeniable, unquestionable desire to mention the opponent somehow getting into space?

-AC

lol

It's the easiest way to a win when your opponent can't survive in a vacuum. You know people always look for the easy way out in 2005.

Hmm. In a physical battle it could go either way I guess. Apocalypse might have the random factor to win it.

Just a point of note - Poccy has complete control over his molecular structure. That does NOT mean he can change the molecule type. He can reconfigure himself however he wants, but he CAN'T change to Adamantium.

I'd still like someone to name some impressive Poccy feats, instead of referring to MU Handbook theories.

Apoc is beyond the Juggmans abilities.

If hulk is professor incarnation
he will win

maybe...but I still sorta doubt that.

but the professor he could make the hulk even stronger and keep his intelligence

you realize Apoc once beat the Hulk...sort of ...I say he beat him because Apoc made the Hulk into his horseman ....War.

he could of just hypnotised him

maybe...but technically that still counts as a victory in Mainstream's book.

yeah I suppose

"Just a point of note - Poccy has complete control over his molecular structure. That does NOT mean he can change the molecule type. He can reconfigure himself however he wants, but he CAN'T change to Adamantium."

True demigawd, but Apocalypse can change his density to match that of adamantium easily, essentially "becoming adamantium". It's simply a matter of packing his molecules rediculously close together Or, he could simply become intangible, pass through Hulk, rematerialize behind with his hand inside hulks head, and then increase the size of his hand to the size of a blue whale, causing Hulk's head to explode.

Hulk couldn't beat Apocalypse with all of Apocalypse's abilities at play. If it were simply punch for punch he'd have a chance, but Apocalypse using all of his abilities is simply too much for someone with equal strength and actually less physical durability than himself. Apocalypse could make all of Hulk's attacks have no effect at all if he wanted, easily.

He becomes intangible? When has he ever displayed such a power. References please and not from Handbooks either.

Beyonder, I don't really feel like digging through all of my comics to find a singular instance where Apocalypse became intangible, but I can remember instances when objects thrown at him passed through him and he can also teleport. It's "within the realm of his character's abilities" (as is a popular defense around here when it comes to some characters).

But quite simply, that is one of Apocalypse's abilities given his powers. And to be honest, he wouldn't even need it to beat the Hulk.

If Apoc has complete control over his density can't he become intangible like the Vision since he has complete control over his density?

apoc is SOOOOOOO overrated,all he does is lie in his coffin thingy until the right time, when does it come???? hulk smash every1 including thanos!!!!!!

another Hulk fanboy

Apacolypse wins.

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hand to hand i think hulk would win

Originally posted by zbucsz
hand to hand i think hulk would win

why?

Originally posted by Soujaboy
why?
Because.

because the more they fight h2h the more hulk would get mad and they would fight till hulk would be to much for him to handle but if Apocalypse
ko's him in the first minute thats the only way i see if he can beat hulk h2h