does the past exist???

Does the past exist, or is it just an illusion.

The only way it could exist is if there is an infinite multiverse somewhere, where everything in the past goes to after it stops being the present and becomes the past.

But the past does not exist in the universe, as it is just an illusion of the human mind and imagination.

Everything in the past existed.

bleah...your mind is clouded by too many movies.
the past exists AS A MEMORY. as electrical signals in yor brain, if you may call it. the past is not, however, a tangible object. not all that exists, you can grab in your hand.

THe past existED, but how can you really prove that.??
The human memory is NOT perfect. THe past doesnt exist at the moment, it is an imaginary concept created by the mind of humans.

Originally posted by Dexx
bleah...your mind is clouded by too many movies.
the past exists AS A MEMORY. as electrical signals in yor brain, if you may call it. the past is not, however, a tangible object. not all that exists, you can grab in your hand.

'the past' existed in the mind only... all the objects that were in the past exist now still unless they were destroyed or whatever, so the past doesnt exist, since it never was a tangible object

the individual memory can be mistaken. The collective memory of society is less likey to be mistaken, so that means that if society on the whole cannot remember something (and if the entire population of the planet cannot remember an event), then it didnt exist.

So do you exist?

The past has to exist really..or nothing would've happened..Nothing would be here....

Hmmm, I existed in the past, and back then now was the future... I remember the past, my past, thus I believe it, after all, I am here now, so I had to come from somewhere.

Similarly, I am a history student, in a way my field of study and eventual expertise is the past, and I believe it exists, as there is evidence of it, artifact's records, memories... a clay Athenian pot from 200 BC, exists, it can be charted to being a certain age, thus it was forged, at some point in the past...

But I think that to much weight is put into physical presence, that time is some how something materiel, like fire, or water, an element, it is simply a measure, the "past" is not something physical, it was merely the time before, just as their is no "physical" future playing itself out before we arrive, it happens as it happens, then its just memory, or artifact.

Originally posted by frodo34x
[Matrix mode]But what is real? Something you can sense?[/Matrix mode]

as i said...too many movies.
but...yes, basicly.

Originally posted by eleveninches
THe past existED, but how can you really prove that.??
The human memory is NOT perfect. THe past doesnt exist at the moment, it is an imaginary concept created by the mind of humans.

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No, that's why its the past......

It existed when it was the present.

Basically you're are the product of the past. Your experiences and your personality has been shape by events that happen in the past. To say the past didn't exist is just denying yourself who you are.

St. Augustine wondered what it is that makes the past and the future real. How can the past and the future exist, when the past is already gone and the future is yet to come? For men, both the past and the future are abstractions, constituted by the human mind. For human beings, they only exist in virtue of the present. In men' s experience, the present is all that exists. We will always exist in the present.
If you would travel back to the past, it would no longer be the past but the present.

It' s hard to imagine a dimension where the past and the future, as well as the present all exist equally, in spite of Einstein' s relativity theory.

I was saying the past doesn't exist now and, of course, it doesn't which is why we refer to previous events in the past tense. The past is not like a physical thing we can go back to unless time travel becomes real.....

Originally posted by eleveninches
the individual memory can be mistaken. The collective memory of society is less likey to be mistaken, so that means that if society on the whole cannot remember something (and if the entire population of the planet cannot remember an event), then it didnt exist.

Just because the majority of the planet does not know you exist, does not mean you don't exsist.

The mathematical display – the Minkowski space http://www.quantonics.com/Einstein_Minkowski_Space_Time_Diagram.html

The past exists on such things as photographs and movies. The past also exists as information travelling with the speed of light.

The stars we see at night are not as they are RIGHT now. The light has travelled for years and years, so when we look out into space we look into the past. The further out we look the deeper into the past we see…
So – the past exists.

"What is today but the tommorow of yesterday?"

According to science, if the molecules in one's body move quickly enough, one may pass through a seemingly completely solid object, true? Then is that object still solid?

The human brain is not perfect. You see/feel/smell/ect, what you want to see/smell/feel/ect. Therefore, all is an illusion, created by your subconcious. Even the past, the present, and the future.

Scary concept, eh?

Originally posted by eleveninches
the individual memory can be mistaken. The collective memory of society is less likey to be mistaken, so that means that if society on the whole cannot remember something (and if the entire population of the planet cannot remember an event), then it didnt exist.

So do you exist?

Been reading 1984, have we?

The past doesn't exist in the here and now, but there are ways to prove it happened outside the human memory. There are many, many written records that talk about events in the past. Granted, not all of them are entirely accurate, and there is no physical record of every fraction of a second that happened in the past--but enough time has been recorded to create a believable timeline of our own existence, as individuals and a society. It's called history. ✅