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I think this would be a good fight- who would win??

No contest. Jean wins. The Phoenix Force just enhances ones' powers to a limitless degree.

Jean with phoenix force because it's more suited to her body and mind.

She knows how to manipulate it's power more coz she's a psychic.

-AC

they are both just getting it

...Yeah.

Still Jean wins.

-AC

I think it'd be close cause lightning still affects jean without the force so when its multiplied then wouldn't it be a one hit type thing??

Do you ever stop felching Storm?

-AC

no prolly not and hwy do you care?? shes just my favorite and you'll prolly call me biased for that right??

You just proved that you are biased by saying "Prolly not".

Why do I care? Coz it ruins threads when people like you are just massaging a character all the time with zero knowledge of anything else.

We are grown comic fans who know our stuff. You're NOT. Dennis would be wise to stay out of Mr. Wilson's garden. Know what I mean kid?

-AC

not really and I know a lot about all the x-men and the marvel universe in general! I also know about the dc universe. i prolly know as much if not more than you. and being biased has nothing to do with ruining threads. I can say that storm will lose to a lot of people but I can also say than she will win. its people like you that ruin threads by callin people biased and arguing about wether or not they are

"i prolly know as much if not more than you. and being biased has nothing to do with ruining threads. I can say that storm will lose to a lot of people but I can also say than she will win. its people like you that ruin threads by callin people biased and arguing about wether or not they are"

You don't know what biased and contradictory mean yet you feel wise enough to step up and say you know more than me about comics.

Funny.

Storm can't win this fight.

-AC

yes she can jean told her that she has psionic defense cause there is electrical interference- jean told storm in the x-treme x-men series when they wer in a club. with both their powers magnified then storm will become more immune to telepathic attack. all it would take is a strong hit with lightning and jean will prolly be done. and you told me what biased means and I know what that i didn't find out what on my own so what. i am only 14 and out teachers didn't tell us what it means so stop arguing about it that I don't know.

I understand some of Stormfront's points. Assuming a non-psychic is even able to wield the Phoenix Force (and it's been a little inconsistent in that area), it largely becomes the function of willpower, intelligence and to some degree ruthlessness. Storm has no psychic defense, but by sheer force of will, she was able to fight off people like Rachel, Emma and the Shadow King. I highly doubt the same could be said for Jean, whose willpower and combat prowess has always been a bit questionable, relatively speaking.

So it really comes down to - what would the Phoenix Force give to Storm? If it acts like the Power Cosmic and simply amps Storm's power to cosmic levels, then Jean wins because a psionic is better than a weather manipulator. If it gives them the same powers, then Storm would actually win for the reasons I described above.

Underdog arguing is fun....

Hey! Did I call it or what?

Yeah but outside of playing Devil's Advocate, Demi....Storm isn't going to win.

You know that as well as I do. Jean's phoenix force is like an extension of herself now.

-AC

lol- but jean told storm that she has electrical interference in her brain so its hard for her to get inside her head. storm has incredible will power and telepaths have commented on it for a while. imo all it will take is one hit for storm cause her lightning can really hurt regular jean so if it is multiplied then it will really hurt

Storm and her lightning can win anything according to you though.

-AC

not really
her lightning is strong but it can't beat everyone, but it can beat jean

Psychics are faster than lightning.

Storm has no chance.

-AC

but she has pshycic defenses jean even told her she does, she has her own, the electrical interference and her own free will and xaviers, he taught everyone how to resist them and gave each x-men one

Did he give everyone Anti-Phoenix force mental barriers?

No. Shh.

-AC

yeah but the point is that she has them which means that it will takke at least a second to get past her own and xaviers which all the time storm needs to hit phoenix and then keep on hitting her.

Xavier doesn't protect her 24/7.

Jean with Phoenix Force will beat Storm with Phoenix Force. This isn't debateable man.

Just give it up. Jeez. I know you LOVE Storm, but she's not going to win this.

-AC

With two phoenix forces, the one most experienced with the Phoenix will win - being Jean. This will be much like Necrom with Anti-Phoenix (a fraction of Phoenix) handling Rachel with Phoenix by manipulating the energies from her person against her.

i know that he doesn't protect her all the time he put wall type things in their mind and if it's xavier than they will be strong. also storm has been told that she is hard to attack telepathically so it will take atleast a second to get storms mind. storm will know the risk of her mind being attacked so she will hit her continusaly until she has won.

Yeah but she won't win, Jean is the more experience. Storm has never been the Phoenix. She'll be struggling already.

Are we gonna continue this?

-AC

i have already said that they both have the phoenix power for the first time

the very first time so they are both the same here

Well seeing as Jean was fated to be the Phoenix and Storm wasn't...

...Jean.

-AC

they both have a good chance of winning

No, they don't.

That's your Storm fan kicking in again.

-AC

With The Phoenix Force, Storm will just have God-level weather-control abilities.

Jean would have God-level TK and TP.

Storm's willpower is a combination of training and natural born "talent." It is not an ability per se (as in The Phoenix Force boosts its' host's abilities to infinite levels).

Er, Storm loses. However long it takes Jean to simply give Storm a global-scale orgasm.

Storm can't control the phoenix force. Jean can. That's why she would win

jean wins, rather easily too...