HOTU Thanos vs Phoenix Force vs Infinities

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golem370
Ok I Super Cosmic Beings but who is stronger?



Does anybody know anything about the Makers? Besides The Makers are the cosmic entities that created the entire Microverse for their experiments

LordKaos
They look like Celestials

golem370
Yeah but they weren't apart of the Celestials on the page.

King KAM
WERE AT WAR!!!! GO TO THE OFF TOPIC WE ARE RAIDING THE STAR WARS GEEKS!!!

Mordum
Thanos wins of course. No contest.

Mider
were was TOAA when the infinites were stealing his galaxies?

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by Mider
were was TOAA when the infinites were stealing his galaxies?

It doesnt work like that Mider. Hes god, not a character that gets involved in petty disputes and battles. TOAA has beings like LT and Phoenix to deal with multiversal threats and below them the abstracts who work on a universal level.

GalacticStorm
Interestingly enough the M'kraan crystal has ben referred to as the Hear of the Universe a few times in X-titles and even now its still referred to as both the core of creation and the heart of the phoenix.

golem370
Abraxas
Abrogate
Agamotto the All-Seeing
Akhenaten
Ancient One (I)
Anomaly (I)
Anthropomorpho
Atlez
Death (I)
Designate
Empathy
Enigma Force
Enmity
Entropy
Eon (I)
Epiphany
Epoch
Era
Eternity (I)
Eulogy
Expediency
Galactus
Galaxy Master
Goblin Force
Hawk God of Arcturus
Hunger (II)
the Infinites
Infinity (I)
Infinity (II)
Jakar
Khatylis
Living Tribunal
Lord Chaos
the Makers
Master Order
Mistress Love
Nebulos
Nemesis (V)
Oblivion
Omega (IV)
One Above All (I)
Origin
Oshtur
Other (IV)
Phoenix Force
Rot
Sire Hate
Star Brand
Stranger (I)
Tyrant
Unbeing
Vortex (II)
Warlock, Adam (I)
Wolverine (I)
Zalkor

The Celestials
Arishem the Judge
Ashema the Listener
Black Celestial (II)
Blue Celestial
Devron the Experimentor
Eson the Searcher
Exitar the Exterminator
Gamiel the Manipulator
Gammenon the Gatherer
Hargen the Measurer
Jemiah the Analyzer
Nezar the Calculator
One Above All (II)
Oneg the Prober
Red Celestial
Scathan the Approver
Tefral the Surveyor
Tiamut the Dreaming Celestial
Ziran the Tester

Cosmic Cubes
Beyonder
Kubik
Shaper of Worlds
Supremor (I)

Deities
Anthos
Hercules (I)
Thor (I)
Walker (II)
Yahweh

Elder Gods
Atum
Chthon
Gaea (I)
Set (I)

Elders of the Universe
Astronomer
Champion (I)
Ego
Explorer
Runner

Eternals & Deviants
Kronos
Thanos (I)
Ultimus

Heralds & Servants
Air-Walker (I and II) - Galactus
Beta Ray Bill - Odin
Captain Marvel (I) - Eon
Count Abyss - Zalkor
Deathurge - Oblivion
Doorman (I) - Oblivion
Drax the Destroyer - Kronos
Firelord - Galactus
Glorian - Shaper of Worlds
In-Betweener - Master Order & Lord Chaos
Invisible Man (IV) - Galactus
Juggernaut (I) - Cyttorak
Machine Man - Celestials
Moon Knight - Khonshu
Phoenix (III) - Phoenix Force
Phoenix (VI) - Phoenix Force
Quasar (III) - Eon & Epoch
Silver Surfer (I) - Galactus
Stardust - Galactus
Thunderstrike (I) - Odin

Infernals (Demons, Devils & etc.)
Adversary
Anti-Being
Archenemy
Asteroth
Balthakk
Big Mother
Blackheart
Cyttorak
D'Spayre
Daydream
Deathwatch
Demon Bear (I)
Dormammu
Dreamqueen
Dweller-In-Darkness (I)
Frost, Deacon
Hellphyr
Hellstorm, Daimon
Hellstorm, Satana
Ikonn
Kale, Noble
Lilith (I)
Malevolence (II)
Mephista
Mephistopheles
N'astirh
Nezaral
Nightmare
Olivier
Pandemonia
Raggadorr
S'ym
Satannish
Shathra
Shuma-Gorath
Spite
Umar the Unrelenting
Valtorr
Voyd
Watoomb
Zarathos
Zom
Zxaxz

Watchers
Uatu

Mider
Yet no one did deal with it no one delt with it at all Eternity tried but the Infinites were so big they actually grabed him with one hand and that was just one Infinite there was three were was LT during this owning of Eternity and yup it was ownige

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by Mider
Yet no one did deal with it no one delt with it at all Eternity tried but the Infinites were so big they actually grabed him with one hand and that was just one Infinite there was three were was LT during this owning of Eternity and yup it was ownige

The Infinites were just rearranging galaxies for some energy matrix their work didnt threaten the existence of the universe therefore it wasnt within Lts jurisdiction. He never got involved in the IG Saga because yes while Thanos would have caused alot of death he only sought to replace the cosmic powers not destroy existence. Survival of the fittest is part of the natural order therefore LT never interfered. He interferred with HOTU because Thanos with that power threatened the entire multiverse he safeguards.

Phoenix works to keep the creation cycle going on and on forever. The destruction of a single universe is inconsequential to a Phoenix as shown in New X-men 154. As long as the creation cycle isnt interfered with, (the birth, growth/evolution and death of universes across creation) then Phoenix doesnt intervene.

kgkg
Phoenix Force = GOD > HOTU > Infi rolling on floor laughing

Xplosive
Originally posted by kgkg
Phoenix Force = GOD > HOTU > Infi rolling on floor laughing

Phoenix Force= HOTU

kgkg
Originally posted by Xplosive
Phoenix Force= HOTU
prove it

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by kgkg
Phoenix Force = GOD > HOTU > Infi rolling on floor laughing

To be honest if HOTU really is gods power then id put it on the same level as the Crown. Ive been looking into HOTU recently and the Crown/M'kraan crystal has been called HOTU a few times and its still called "core of creation" and "Heart of the Phoenix" now so to be honest i think HOTU could be The Crowns power. But thats just speculation.

The Crab
jean grey has a Penis.

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by The Crab
jean grey has a Penis.

As Phoenix im sure she could have anything she wanted to. smile

Sir Whirlysplat
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As Phoenix im sure she could have anything she wanted to. smile

point is she does smile

The Crab
How big can it get when she has the power of the pheonix ?

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by The Crab
How big can it get when she has the power of the pheonix ?

As big as she can imagine im guessing. wink

The Crab
Holy shit. So A penis big enough to take over the cosmos ?

GalacticStorm
Originally posted by The Crab
Holy shit. So A penis big enough to take over the cosmos ?

I guess so big grin

id369
Isnt LT and PF and extension of the HOTU?

Anyhow HOTU Thanos takes this no one not even LT or all the cosmics, borderline Cosmics, Superheros were able to take him down. period.

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