Alpha Flight vs Hulk, Gladiator & Juggernaut

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nimrod009
One of Marvel's most powerful and versatile teams against 3 hugely powerful characters.

Alpha Flight gets the classic team of:

Guardian
Vindicator
Sasquatch
Northstar
Aurora
Puck
Snowbird
Shaman
Marrina

vs

Gladiator
Hulk
Juggernaut

Are these 3 together too much for them?

I should add that this is non-jobbing Alpha Flight, surely they have a chance with all those powers!

Darth Martin
Yes.

King_Mungi
Yes Alpha Flight can win, they have several gods on the team plus a member in her ultimate form that took on the avengers single handly that included Thor and Captain Marvel.

Hulk and Juggernaut can be banished or two Tanaraq's could go one on one with them easily.

Draco69
Alpha Flight. Provided Gladiator doesn't speedblitz them to death.

juggernaut66666
no way that alpha flight wins this

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
no way that alpha flight wins this

Prove to me that can't win, as their powersets are insane.

TheKahn
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
no way that alpha flight wins this

famous last words...whistling

King_Mungi
Uh huh...I suggest you look at their power levels and comment how they couldn't possibly win.

Guardian
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Guardian_I

Vindicator (geothermal suit, she wore an EM suit as well)
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Vindicator_II

Sasquatch
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Sasquatch_I

Northstar
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Northstar

Aurora
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Aurora

Puck
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Puck_I

Snowbird
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Snowbird

Shaman
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Shaman

Marrina
http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Marrina
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Good luck trying to beat that.

juggernaut66666
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Prove to me that can't win, as their powersets are insane.
alpha flight got owned by the Collective and even depowered juggernaut owned them while they were wearing hulk buster armors . Gladiator alone can beat them

King_Mungi
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
alpha flight got owned by the Collective and even depowered juggernaut owned them while they were wearing hulk buster armors . Gladiator alone can beat them

Ummm...that wasn't the real Alpha Flight, as the real ones who are stronger are in space

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Here are the scans that show that wasn't the real Alpha Flight in NA #16:
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0014.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0015.jpg
3. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0016.jpg
4. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0017.jpg
5. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0019.jpg
6. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0020.jpg
7. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0021.jpg
8. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/scan0022.jpg

No he didn't! I have the comics and they completly got their powers wrong as Vindicator doesn't shot machine gun fire and Mac going at Jugz fist to fist? and he never even owned them! He has blasts that can kill Sasquatch in one blow, shields that have blocked nuclear explosion and how would he even grab him with his computer mind, speed and shield. Uh huh, if you know ANYTHING about Alpha Flight you would know that was badly written anyways. This is non-jobbing Alpha Flight

inamilist
Shaman has a ton of options here, though short of BFR I dont necessarily think that alpha could finish off juggs (beat him, ya, TKO, sure)

Unless Glads does a light speed blitz before anyone can shut him down, shaman should be able to banish them all to some weird dimension

Without shaman, I still say alpha, its just a much longer fight... And juggs proves to be really tough

King_Mungi
Guardian maybe even able to manipulate the brain waves of Juggernaut, as his helmet blocks telepathic assualts not brain manipulation through the use of electromagnetic field. If he couldn't do it with the helmet on, Tanaraq can always just rip it off and do it then. He also has sonics, which can be lethal to Juggernaut

inamilist
ah alpha flight...

ya, i really hope they come back with something better than v3

King_Mungi
Originally posted by inamilist
ah alpha flight...

ya, i really hope they come back with something better than v3

They are, but their going to have members from America who fleed the civil war.

http://www.alphaflight.net/latest_news/index.php

King_Mungi
Mark Miller interview:
http://www.alphaflight.net/interviews/mm_interview2.php

TheKahn
Basically, I see this as two bricks and a Superman clone vs one of the most versatile and powerful superhero teams. That being said I don't see Juggy or the Hulk being significant factors as they can easily be BFRed or incapacitate by Alpha Flight. However, that still leaves AF with a significant problem as a Superman clone is a difficult opponent for anyone to defeat (particularly as it relates to speed). Again it is Alpha Flight's versatility that would save the day and allow them to triumph where others would come up short.

Having a Dr. Strange level character on their team would allow them to deal with all of these opponents rather easily. The only problem that they would face is preventing a speedblitz on Gladiator's part as Shaman would need a few moments to end the fight. Luckily Alpha Flight has the required abilities to provided Shaman all the time he needs thanks to Guardian's tracking systems, electromagnetic barrier, electromagnetic field, computerized mind, Aurora's and Northstar's speed, and even Sasquatch's reflexes they should be able to keep Gladiator occupied long enough to send him and his teammates into the void.

Soujaboy
Juggernaut has already shown us that he can take Dr.Strange magic attacks without any ill affects.

TheKahn
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Juggernaut has already shown us that he can take Dr.Strange magic attacks without any ill affects.

It depends on how you define "attacks." I'm sure he could take the standard bolt of magical energy with much trouble, but one does not have to think very creatively to come up with a plethora of ways in which to beat Juggy without trying to overcome his strength or durability. The team has teleportational and telepathic abilities which is all they really need to easily handle Juggernaut.

King_Mungi
I feel in this fight, Gladiator is the biggest threat but he won't be going lightspeed on Earth or anything like that. He would destroy the environment if he did, and Aurora has been shown to dodge multiple lightening bolts showing her natural speed and both her and her brother can go 99% speed of light if they pushed themselves.

batdude123
Originally posted by King_Mungi
I feel in this fight, Gladiator is the biggest threat but he won't be going lightspeed on Earth or anything like that. He would destroy the environment if he did, and Aurora has been shown to dodge multiple lightening bolts showing her natural speed and both her and her brother can go 99% speed of light if they pushed themselves.

Northstar's a fairy.

batdude123
Originally posted by TheKahn
Basically, I see this as two bricks and a Superman clone vs one of the most versatile and powerful superhero teams. That being said I don't see Juggy or the Hulk being significant factors as they can easily be BFRed or incapacitate by Alpha Flight. However, that still leaves AF with a significant problem as a Superman clone is a difficult opponent for anyone to defeat (particularly as it relates to speed). Again it is Alpha Flight's versatility that would save the day and allow them to triumph where others would come up short.

Having a Dr. Strange level character on their team would allow them to deal with all of these opponents rather easily. The only problem that they would face is preventing a speedblitz on Gladiator's part as Shaman would need a few moments to end the fight. Luckily Alpha Flight has the required abilities to provided Shaman all the time he needs thanks to Guardian's tracking systems, electromagnetic barrier, electromagnetic field, computerized mind, Aurora's and Northstar's speed, and even Sasquatch's reflexes they should be able to keep Gladiator occupied long enough to send him and his teammates into the void.

Talisman=Dr. Strange> Shaman. wink

King_Mungi
Originally posted by batdude123
Talisman=Dr. Strange> Shaman. wink

Yep, Shaman is below Strange but he still could always just freeze time just by saying "shush" in this battle

In an interview found in Marvel Age #2 , John Byrne: "If you want to sum it up . . . he's Dr. Strange--but he does it with potions and herbs and little dolls and stuff, instead of just doing it with the power of his mind, the way Strange does. This possibly gives Shaman a slight advantage, I don't know. If he had the tools at hand, he can make just about anything. I don't know if Strange has that kind of power over the physical world."

TheKahn
Originally posted by batdude123
Talisman=Dr. Strange> Shaman. wink

Thus the reason why I said he is at Strange's level and not his equal mad





















wink

batdude123
Originally posted by TheKahn
Thus the reason why I said he as is Strange's level and not his equal mad






















wink

big grin

batdude123
Originally posted by batdude123
Northstar's a fairy.

^^

King_Mungi
Originally posted by batdude123
^^

Meh! if you said Aurora sucked I would have destroyed you smile Northstar gets all the attention, but Aurora is better

Like really her calming light would revert Hulk back into Banner

leonidas
with rudimentary knowledge of AF, glads would know shaman is the biggest threat and sasquatch is the next biggest. if bloodlust is on and glads thought the shiar was at stake, he would certainly speedblitz at beyond light speed and take out shaman first. after shaman is out, the battle is already much closer. (in any event, moving at 99% of c would ALSO cause enormous damage, so why would he stop there . . .?)

juggs would be very tough to put out. if mags can't affect him EM wise, guardian isn't either and without shaman, i highly doubt anyone has the power to take him out. as i said, glads would likely tackle sasquatch next and simply blast off with him into space and leave him there as he tried to do with hulk. (only this time, non-jobbing, he'd be out of the atmosphere in an instant.)

with sas and shaman down glads and juggs would certainly have a decent chance against the rest, especially considering glads speed and energy attacks. hulk is probably out via aurora's light, unless juggs can save him. the battle could go a lot of ways from this point but i have my doubts that the remaining members of AF could take them out. not at least for the majority.

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