Thanos(ig) vs Anti Moniter

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bigbran
who wins? i dont think this has been done before. thanos has the IG.
they fight in new york....
debate!

darthgoober
Bye Bye New York. laughing

(And I say Thanos.)

charlemagne9746
This is an interesting fight...i'd like to say Thanos..but, i don't really know if he can win with the IG....i know Thanos could win with the HOTU..no question about that....but, i don't know if the IG is enough. Anti-Monitor is a multiveral threat...and Thanos with the IG is only a universal threat. The only being that really operates on a mulitversal scale in Marvel is the LT...and the Tribunal is above the IG.

I'm gonna have to think about this one some more....for now, I still give A-M the edge

Jesse7
IG is multiversal by the way, this was shown on a thread with scans.

Avalonofthewind
For now I have to go with anti monitor. If you think about it, he pulled out one bad ass feat.

He destroyed a near infinite amount of universes filled with ridiculously overpowered pre-crisis characters.

Thanos_1971
Great.There goes New York.

lilnutta12
LT is stronger than A-M and d.c universe - multi

ion parralax spectre

he is just slightly stronger than these

Juntai
Originally posted by lilnutta12
LT is stronger than A-M and d.c universe - multi

ion parralax spectre

he is just slightly stronger than these ???

Mr Master
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
The only being that really operates on a mulitversal scale in Marvel is the LT...and the Tribunal is above the IG.

Several characters operate on a Mulitversal scale in Marvel.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
i don't really know if he can win with the IG.... Anti-Monitor is a multiveral threat...and Thanos with the IG is only a universal threat.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
For now I have to go with anti monitor. If you think about it, he pulled out one bad ass feat.
He destroyed a near infinite amount of universes filled with ridiculously overpowered pre-crisis characters.

Abraxas kills the Galactus of many Universes
http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/8695/0unabraxaskillsallg3ps.th.jpg

Here Reed says "our Earth is merging with other Alternates"...how can this be...unless the entire Multiverse is misaligned.
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3020/earthalignment8vq.th.jpg

Abraxas killing every Reed Richards in the Multi-verse, with a gesture.
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3452/0unabraxaskillsallotherselves8.th.jpg

Here Nova says "creatures of the MULTIVERSE Mixing --- Reality folding onto itself" again this Multiversal misalignment is literally ripping the Multiverse apart.
http://img318.imageshack.us/img318/2111/earthalignment26rx.th.jpg

Finally what does this lead to?
Reed, "In order to REALIGN ALL that is...we had to END ALL that was.
What was MISALIGNED? The MULTI-VERSE!
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7392/earthalignment39jd.th.jpg

How was this done?

Reed uses the Ultimate Nullifier to banish Abraxas & remake the Multiverse
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/6069/1unisusedbyreedtodestroyabraxa.th.jpg

UN destroys the Multiverse
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/932/2undestroysmultieternityinfini.th.jpg

UN remakes the Multiverse in an instant
http://img350.imageshack.us/img350/893/3unremakesthemultiverse9jq.th.jpg

As you can see, the Ultimate Nullifier can Remake the Multi-verse on a whim

Let's not doubt the Ultimate Nullifier can do this.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5568/unismulticv0.th.jpg


Now observe what an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet can do to the Ultimate Nullifier.

Next post it continues...

Mr Master
continues...


Here Quasar tries to use the UN on Magus who has an Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet...

Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5366/igvsunoz6.th.jpg

Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2843/igvsun2pi1.th.jpg

Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them.
Absolute control..
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8928/igvsun3sw2.th.jpg

Another example of the IG power.

Magus with 5 Cosmic Containment Units creates a Duplicate 616 Universe...
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8559/5ccmakeduplicatemj6.th.jpg

Now imagine 30 Cosmic Containment Units...the Goddess had that many...30.
Here the Goddess merges 30 Cosmic Containment Units...which equal to even greater power as a sum than individually(as when Magus used his 5)
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/1842/cosmicegg30ccgi2.th.jpg

Here Silver Surfer and the Goddess acknowledge that the Infinity Gauntlet is a "Far More Potent Force" than even 30 Cosmic Containment Units(un-evolved Cosmic Cubes)and remember it only took 5 to create an exact Duplicate of the 616 Universe...from scratch.
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6048/ssigll6.th.jpg
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/900/ssig2xz3.th.jpg


It all leads to this:

Thanos, master of ALL Universes, with the Infinity Gauntlet.
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1135/igmakesyousupremeinallrealitie.th.jpg

Mider999
not today though

bigbran
not today what?

charlemagne9746
yeah, I forgot about Abraxas. There is no doubt about the UN or the IG's power....but, would that be able to work against the Anti_Monitor? Even the Spectre couldn't stop him alone. A-M can transcend time...he could go back in time and kill Thanos before he got IG..if the IG could indeed kill him. Then again, that may not work....Thanos has control over time and space..and could prevent timetravel altoghter...that is if Thanos is omniscient..and would sense what A-M was doing.

lol...this is a good fight. At the very least...this is a stalemate. I can argue for both sides...but, i'm just not sure what kind of effect the IG would have on Anti-Monitor

charlemagne9746
Thanos can't really be master of all universes with the IG, when there are things over that in power...such as the LT, TOAA, Phoenix Force, HOTU, pre-retconned Brothers. Thanos with the IG is certainly badass though.

Mr Master
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Thanos can't really be master of all universes with the IG, when there are things over that in power...such as the LT, TOAA, Phoenix Force, HOTU, pre-retconned Brothers. Thanos with the IG is certainly badass though.


Phoenix Force is nowhere near the power of the IG.

LT is above the IG and so is TOAA.

HOTU is the TOAA's power.

Pre-retcon Brothers was a Marvel/DC crossover (garbage) and it doesn't count since you'l NEVER see them again.

Only LT and the never present "one above all", and it's power (THOU), showed to be above the IG.

So master of all universes it is.

bigbran
Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix Force is nowhere near the power of the IG.

LT is above the IG and so is TOAA.

HOTU is the TOAA's power.

Pre-retcon Brothers was a Marvel/DC crossover (garbage) and it doesn't count since you'l NEVER see them again.

Only LT and the never present "one above all", and it's power (THOU), showed to be above the IG.

So master of all universes it is. i was waiting for your response to this.

Jesse7
One thing I like about Mr. M is the pwnage he lays down on those who claim Phoenix is above IG/HOTU, or that Phoenix has ever had a feat that was trully beyond universal in power, or even more so that Phoenix is the direct extension of TOAA and thus is omnipotent... yeah right what a joke.

Go GO Go Mr. M!

Mr Master
Originally posted by Jesse7
One thing I like about Mr. M is the pwnage he lays down on those who claim Phoenix is above IG/HOTU, or that Phoenix has ever had a feat that was trully beyond universal in power, or even more so that Phoenix is the direct extension of TOAA and thus is omnipotent... yeah right what a joke.

Go GO Go Mr. M!

cool

bigbran
Originally posted by Jesse7
One thing I like about Mr. M is the pwnage he lays down on those who claim Phoenix is above IG/HOTU, or that Phoenix has ever had a feat that was trully beyond universal in power, or even more so that Phoenix is the direct extension of TOAA and thus is omnipotent... yeah right what a joke.

Go GO Go Mr. M! yup.

charlemagne9746
Then on the DC side...you have the Presence, the Source, Great Evil Beast, Lucifer, Michael, maybe Spectre and Anti-Monitor that are above the IG....and the ALE would stalemate it....so, there are several beings in both universes above the IG or atleast equal to it. You can't really say that the Phoenix Force is not above the IG either...it very well could be....maybe not while the PF is in a host body...but the PF itself. The IG has never been tested against the PF...so, you can't know for sure...or atleast to my knowledge, it was never tested against it.

bigbran
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Then on the DC side...you have the Presence, the Source, Great Evil Beast, Lucifer, Michael, maybe Spectre and Anti-Monitor that are above the IG....and the ALE would stalemate it....so, there are several beings in both universes above the IG or atleast equal to it. You can't really say that the Phoenix Force is not above the IG either...it very well could be....maybe not while the PF is in a host body...but the PF itself. The IG has never been tested against the PF...so, you can't know for sure...or atleast to my knowledge, it was never tested against it. but the pf has been tested against a team of x men, and it didnt do so well...

Mr Master
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Then on the DC side...you have the Presence, the Source, Great Evil Beast,

Conceivably.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Lucifer, Michael, maybe Spectre and Anti-Monitor that are above the IG....and the ALE would stalemate it....

I think not.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
so, there are several beings in both universes above the IG or atleast equal to it.

That's your opinion.

Only LT and ofcourse TOAA are above the IG.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
You can't really say that the Phoenix Force is not above the IG either...it very well could be....maybe not while the PF is in a host body...but the PF itself. The IG has never been tested against the PF...so, you can't know for sure...or atleast to my knowledge, it was never tested against it.

But Magneto went against it
Here's Magneto defeating the PF
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/2455/pfdefeatedcq8.th.jpg

WhiteWitchKing
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Then on the DC side...you have the Presence, the Source, Great Evil Beast, Lucifer, Michael, maybe Spectre and Anti-Monitor that are above the IG....and the ALE would stalemate it....so, there are several beings in both universes above the IG or atleast equal to it.

The Great Evil Beast and the Presence are certainly above the IG. Lucifer, Michael, and Spectre may or may not be above the Infinity Gauntlet, but edge to Michael and Lucifer against it.



Even if it was there, it would not been but another nuissance. The Force itself is not comparable to the Gauntlet. The only power that could was the Tribunal. Eternity's plead was with the Tribunal and once it was denied, the cosmics collective reluctantly chose to take on Thanos. If the Force was even a match for the IG, the Watcher and other cosmics would have gone to the Force like it did the Tribunal. But they didn't. For a power that's supposed greater than Eternity and the other cosmics including Death, Infinity, Galactus, and Chronos, it sure has trouble with low end beings.


http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3180/phoenixressurection20011lb5.th.jpghttp://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2664/phoenixressurection20012dv2.th.jpghttp://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7549/phoenixressurection20013ja2.th.jpghttp://img141.imageshack.us/img141/9409/phoenixressurection20014uh9.th.jpg



Thanos would beat Antimonitor. The guy toyed with the collective of Death, Mephisto, Galactus, two Celestials, Chaos, Order, and Chronos; and later Eterntiy.

As powerful as he was, he was still fighting Pre-Crisis heroes, not cosmics. Supergirl almost killed him. Later when he grew stronger, he was drained, and Dr. Light, aborbing solar energy from a nearby star, put a HOLE into AM, putting him down (till he absorbed his Anti-Matter demons). What makes hard to go with AM is that he uses machinaries to mess with those universes. I only remembered him able to absorb his universe under his own might, which is not surprising since his is powered by antimatter.

guy222
thanos w/ig ftw

lordboo
thanos wins

quanchi112
Thanos with the ig crushes the anti monitor.

TricksterPriest
Hey Bran, why did you start this up again? sad We settled it already. The classic AM was more powerful than the IG.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hey Bran, why did you start this up again? sad We settled it already. The classic AM was more powerful than the IG. What are you talking about. Who settled this and no way in hell is the am more powerful than the ig. I mean the am cant even kill sodam yat.


laughing laughing laughing

Ig could blink him out of existence with but a thought.

Mr Master
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Hey Bran, why did you start this up again? We settled it already. The classic AM was more powerful than the IG.

In what issue was this made official by Marvel/DC?

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by quanchi112
What are you talking about. Who settled this and no way in hell is the am more powerful than the ig. I mean the am cant even kill sodam yat.


laughing laughing laughing

Ig could blink him out of existence with but a thought.

Illiterate much? roll eyes (sarcastic) I said Classic Anti-Monitor was more powerful.

TricksterPriest
Originally posted by Mr Master
In what issue was this made official by Marvel/DC?

To hell with crossovers. It's patently obvious to anyone who read COIE.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Illiterate much? roll eyes (sarcastic) I said Classic Anti-Monitor was more powerful. No he wasnt. Supergirl couldnt phase Thanos with the ig. No one could while Superman and his help eventually weakened him enough for the kill.

Oh and this thread isnt about the classic monitor so why bring him up when it isnt specified.

quanchi112
Originally posted by KMC_Drifter
This is an interesting fight...i'd like to say Thanos..but, i don't really know if he can win with the IG....i know Thanos could win with the HOTU..no question about that....but, i don't know if the IG is enough. Anti-Monitor is a multiveral threat...and Thanos with the IG is only a universal threat. The only being that really operates on a mulitversal scale in Marvel is the LT...and the Tribunal is above the IG.

I'm gonna have to think about this one some more....for now, I still give A-M the edge This is current am and the other one wasnt enough to take on the ig anyways. Think about all you could accomplish with the ig and then get back to me with your answer.

TricksterPriest
Oh. Well in that case.....no idea. So far the IG wins. At least until AM does some pre-crisis level shit.

quanchi112
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Oh. Well in that case.....no idea. So far the IG wins. At least until AM does some pre-crisis level shit. Which im sure he wont do. He might kill some guardians but then again the ig could do that easily.

Mr Master
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
To hell with crossovers. It's patently obvious to anyone who read COIE.

Well if one read the IG series, its tie-ins, (including War/Crusade)
certain Infinity Watch issues,
plus the Avengers/Ultraforce saga,

one could argue the opposite.

Air Legend
Thanos with IG defeats Classic AM.

Laminator_X
The AM's only mega-feat in COIE was the whole red-skies, anti-matter wave of white nothingness thing. Impressive, but when it came time to actually do something on a scale smaller than wipe-out-a-universe, he didn't do nearely as well. He got beaten down bit-by-bit by a gang of super-heroes.

The only thing that's ever defeated an IG wielder is hubris.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Laminator_X
The AM's only mega-feat in COIE was the whole red-skies, anti-matter wave of white nothingness thing. Impressive, but when it came time to actually do something on a scale smaller than wipe-out-a-universe, he didn't do nearely as well. He got beaten down bit-by-bit by a gang of super-heroes.

The only thing that's ever defeated an IG wielder is hubris. Exactly and well said laminator. Thanos lowered his powers to even combat the heroes and easily dispatched them. Maybe this will sink in to tricksterpriest.

lordboo
classic am could not beat thanos, he took a major blast off every cosmic being at once during the ig saga and it didnt affect him,whilst am struggled with supergirls physical attacks.
i just cant see am harming thanos

Sirius77
AM wins this, he stalemated the full power specter and rendered him inert. It took every hero and magical force in the dcu to halt the am. The ig is not above the specter.

Erik-Lensherr
AM in pretty much a stomp.

The Great Galen
Thanos with the IG can not compare to the AM...this is spite.

Air Legend
Originally posted by Sirius77
AM wins this, he stalemated the full power specter and rendered him inert. It took every hero and magical force in the dcu to halt the am. The ig is not above the specter.

AM loses this. AM was physically harmed by supergirl. An amped up spectre (not full power) was able to severly hurt him. On top of that AM was killed by Superman. Thanos in a curbstomp.

Ouallada
Originally posted by The Great Galen
this is spite.

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff281/twol84/this-is-sparta.jpg

Sirius77
Originally posted by Air Legend
AM loses this. AM was physically harmed by supergirl. An amped up spectre (not full power) was able to severly hurt him. On top of that AM was killed by Superman. Thanos in a curbstomp.

By "hurt him" you mean get put in a coma? Specter was at full power when he matched the AM. Don't try to lie. AM stomps a hole in thanos.

The Great Galen
Thanos could make AM a really comfortable sofa with the IG then wait till AM falls asleep to kill him...other then that there is no WAY thanos is touching the AM.

Air Legend
Originally posted by Sirius77
By "hurt him" you mean get put in a coma?
laughing
I forgot to mention that the Spectre is also pretty weak.
Originally posted by Sirius77 Specter was at full power when he matched the AM.
OK have it your way. Full power Spectre is a peice of shit then.
Originally posted by Sirius77 Don't try to lie.
Go crawl back into that hole that you came from.
Originally posted by Sirius77 AM stomps a hole in thanos.
And Superman is teh best!!!!!!!!!1 dur

Sirius77
Originally posted by Air Legend
laughing
I forgot to mention that the Spectre is also pretty weak.

That is possibly one of the most ignorant comments that I have seen all day...

Did you actually just say that the specter is weak?The same specter impowered by the presence? The same specter that almost destroyed all magic while weakened?

You are one pitiful little kid...

Air Legend
Originally posted by Sirius77
That is possibly one of the most ignorant comments that I have seen all day...
That's because you don't see all the shit you post. First Superman being greater than Galactus then this:
Originally posted by Sirius77
White crown pheonix would pwn thanos w/ ig.
Isn't she one with pretty much everything in that form?
LMFAO.
Originally posted by Sirius77
Did you actually just say that the specter is weak?The same specter impowered by the presence? The same specter that almost destroyed all magic while weakened?
Yup. The same Spectre that saw more colors, shapes, and things than the Presence, the same Spectre who was getting his ass kicked by Captain Marvel, the same Spectre who was being amped and still couldn't kill the Anti-Monitor, the same Spectre who was Batkicked.
Originally posted by Sirius77 You are one pitiful little kid...
You are one failing piece of shit.

Kurash
Originally posted by quanchi112
This is current am and the other one wasnt enough to take on the ig anyways. Think about all you could accomplish with the ig and then get back to me with your answer.

do you realize you just quoted someone and asked for a resonse from an assertion that was made a year and a half ago?

Sirius77
Originally posted by Air Legend
LMFAO.

Yup. The same Spectre that saw more colors, shapes, and things than the Presence, the same Spectre who was getting his ass kicked by Captain Marvel, the same Spectre who was being amped and still couldn't kill the Anti-Monitor, the same Spectre who was Batkicked.

You are one failing piece of shit.

So, you compile a few instances of the specter jobbing and
automatically say that hes weak.

Also, the specter that fought cm was weakened. Not only that, but cm was impowered by all of the magic in the dcu.

It doesn't help that you haven't read coie. If you had, you would know that the AM absorbed a nigh-infinite number of realities into himself, so he wasn't stalemating the specter because the specter was "weak" as you would say, he was doing so because he was just that powerful.
So since you basically have no idea what your talking about, I see no reason to continue this.

Shin_Nikkolas
Individual gems make entire new universes.

Can A-M do this?

No?
Okay then.

Desaad
When did an individual gem make an entire new universe?

I'm assuming you're not talking about Soul World.

Shin_Nikkolas
It was a couple gems. By individual, I meant away from the Gauntlet.

And I'm talking about the Ultaforce Arc.

Air Legend
Originally posted by Sirius77
So, you compile a few instances of the specter jobbing and
automatically say that hes weak.

Also, the specter that fought cm was weakened. Not only that, but cm was impowered by all of the magic in the dcu.

It doesn't help that you haven't read coie. If you had, you would know that the AM absorbed a nigh-infinite number of realities into himself, so he wasn't stalemating the specter because the specter was "weak" as you would say, he was doing so because he was just that powerful.
So since you basically have no idea what your talking about, I see no reason to continue this.

You're the one who hasn't read the comic book, and if you did you are not smart enough to comprehend what actually happened. I'm suprised you haven't said this thing about the Spectre yet, but I'm not going to mention it because that'll make your fanboyism go wild. All magic in DCU? Yet another fanboyism statement. He was empowered by sorcerers, not all the magic in DCU.

Desaad
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
It was a couple gems. By individual, I meant away from the Gauntlet.

And I'm talking about the Ultaforce Arc.

What about the UltraForce arc?

That was all the gems, plus a seventh gem that gave it sentience that turned it into Nemesis.

Desaad
Originally posted by Air Legend
You're the one who hasn't read the comic book, and if you did you are not smart enough to comprehend what actually happened. I'm suprised you haven't said this thing about the Spectre yet, but I'm not going to mention it because that'll make your fanboyism go wild. All magic in DCU? Yet another fanboyism statement. He was empowered by sorcerers, not all the magic in DCU.

He was empowered by almost every sorcerer in the DCU. Alien, those from different dimensions, cosmic beings like the Phantom Stranger, etc.

Pretty impressive.

Air Legend
Originally posted by Desaad
He was empowered by almost every sorcerer in the DCU. Alien, those from different dimensions, cosmic beings like the Phantom Stranger, etc.

Pretty impressive.

Impressive sure. Compared to what happened in the IG series. Nah.

Sirius77
Originally posted by Air Legend
You're the one who hasn't read the comic book, and if you did you are not smart enough to comprehend what actually happened. I'm suprised you haven't said this thing about the Spectre yet, but I'm not going to mention it because that'll make your fanboyism go wild. All magic in DCU? Yet another fanboyism statement. He was empowered by sorcerers, not all the magic in DCU.

As I said before, you don't know what your talking about and haven't read coie, so I see no point in continuing to debate with a child.

Bransolute
How about both of you haven't read it?

So there. renske

The Great Galen
Universal truth is AM>IG...sooo yeah next please.

Air Legend
Originally posted by The Great Galen
Universal truth is AM>IG...sooo yeah next please.
Ha Ha Ha. Lets see the IG get a physical beating from Supergirl.

Shin_Nikkolas
IIRC, only a few gems were making creation waves of entire universes.

Merlyn
Originally posted by quanchi112
Oh and this thread isnt about the classic monitor so why bring him up when it isnt specified. This thread was made on August 12th, 2006.

In '06 we had NO idea of AM's return... So I think it's safe to say, "classic" AM IS who the thread starter intended to be in this thread. smile

Shin_Nikkolas
You: Superman > Odin or Thanos.
Darkseid is comparable to Galactus.

Go away.

What if I say please?

quanchi112
Originally posted by Merlyn
This thread was made on August 12th, 2006.

In '06 we had NO idea of AM's return... So I think it's safe to say, "classic" AM IS who the thread starter intended to be in this thread. smile Thanos still wins so in the end does it really matter. smile

quanchi112
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
You: Superman > Odin or Thanos.
Darkseid is comparable to Galactus.

Go away.

What if I say please? The great galen really believes that. I hope he doesnt and is just posting that kind of stuff to get attention.

Desaad
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
IIRC, only a few gems were making creation waves of entire universes.

We know that the Infinity Gauntlet itself was only capable of manipulating a single reality.

When Quasar took his "tour" of alternate realities, it was very clear that in one of them Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet and Maelstrom with the power of Anomoly/Cosmic Awareness/Quantum Bands were fighting, and they had destroyed some of their universe, but it didn't go beyond that. Never spilled over, and an Infinity Gauntlet exists in each universe.

So...

Shin_Nikkolas
Um, since when does an IG exist in each universe?

I've never heard that at all.

Desaad
Originally posted by Shin_Nikkolas
Um, since when does an IG exist in each universe?

I've never heard that at all.

I believe I just told you "since when", didn't I?

This was quite clear from the Quasar series, in which we saw Thanos with an Infinity Gauntlet battling cosmically powered up Maelstrom.

How could that Thanos, of an alternate universe, have an Infinity Gauntlet if they weren't specific for the universes?

And this was indicated by the Infinity Gauntlet work in and of itself, and WatIW which followed it, in which the bearers constantly refer to their power being over "this reality".

This isn't a multiversal tool. This grants dominion over a single universe.

Shin_Nikkolas
Eh. THe proof the IG is multiversal is all in its respect thread. It's stated severalt imes to grant rule over all realities, to allow people to rule the multiverse and has posed threats to entirely different realities according to the Living Tribunal itself.

nvrbeenwthagirl
Originally posted by Desaad
I believe I just told you "since when", didn't I?

This was quite clear from the Quasar series, in which we saw Thanos with an Infinity Gauntlet battling cosmically powered up Maelstrom.

How could that Thanos, of an alternate universe, have an Infinity Gauntlet if they weren't specific for the universes?

And this was indicated by the Infinity Gauntlet work in and of itself, and WatIW which followed it, in which the bearers constantly refer to their power being over "this reality".

This isn't a multiversal tool. This grants dominion over a single universe.
I"ve said this many times that the IG was universal. Remember the what if's when there were other IG's?

Erik-Lensherr
As have I

quanchi112
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I"ve said this many times that the IG was universal. Remember the what if's when there were other IG's? The ig is still going to defeat the am.

Shin_Nikkolas
IG is multiversal and unless you know more than the LT, you have no right to dispute it.

Laminator_X
The whole uni vs multi thing is irrelevant. It's like asking how many angels can dance on a pinhead.

Despite being able to bring about destriction on a grand scale, he just wasn't that personally powerful. If he was more personally powerful than the IG he wouldn't have needed flunkies like Psycho-pirate, an army of Shadow-demons, his various machines, etc. Anybody who needs to siphon energy from a nearby star to hang with some super-heroes is not on par with Thanos wielding the IG.

Ouallada
Laminator has hit the nail. I can understand why multi > uni but that is not the sole factor by which an object's or entity's power is determined. I'm just going to assume that the AM is multiversal (ignoring the countless debates we would have if the other side of the argument had been debated). The question of whether the AM would be any more or less powerful if the entire DC was simply universal comes into play.

The same thing applies to the IG. Even if it were merely universal, simply saying that AM being multiversal means that AM > IG is ridiculous. Abraxas is multiversal, but he would definitely be hammered by the IG. Doesnt' make the IG multiversal as a result, but doesn't take anything away from what the IG can accomplish.

In short, it does not matter if something is multiversal or not. The only time it would come into play if two entities were of the same power level. Other than that, using the universal/multiversal/omniversal/fourth wall argument is simply missing the forest for the trees.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Laminator_X
The whole uni vs multi thing is irrelevant. It's like asking how many angels can dance on a pinhead.

Despite being able to bring about destriction on a grand scale, he just wasn't that personally powerful. If he was more personally powerful than the IG he wouldn't have needed flunkies like Psycho-pirate, an army of Shadow-demons, his various machines, etc. Anybody who needs to siphon energy from a nearby star to hang with some super-heroes is not on par with Thanos wielding the IG. Nicely said and this puts the final nail in the coffin here, Thanos wins here as I have always claimed as well.


Thanos wins. Nice post laminator and maybe now they will understand.


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Mr Master
The one and only IG the 616 IG that is,
is Multiversal and beyond.

There are no Alternate Gems.

The only other Gems seen where in Two "What If's"
and as we know, "What If's" are mirrors of 616 (while not being 616 exactly)
which exist or come into existence in a meaningless and senseless manner.

So in order for other IGs to show up, a point in time during the IG series in 1992,
has to diverge, yes even now perplexingly so in 2007,
then this "Divergence" that somehow took place in 1992 in 2007 What the f**k?
becomes a Reality of it's own,

Where Silver Surfer ends up snatching the IG from Thanos
(yet in this Reality he doesn't even get Eternity's attention,
not even when he stated he would Remake the Universe,
heck, Eternity never even appeared)

Then we have the Alternate Impossible Man incident:
(Eternity is not afraid of the IG in this Reality,
in fact,
even Galactus was speaking about Eternity as if he could stomp the wielder of the IG)

So were these IGs like the 616 IGs?

Based on these Two other showings in those "What Ifs"

I sincerely doubt it.
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Anyhow, here are FOUR Gems (Space-Power-Mind-Soul)

Creating one Universe after another, on top of one another back to back:

http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/995/n5pa7.th.jpg
"Each New Wave CREATED another New Reality"
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These same FOUR Gems, almost caused the collapse of the Omniverse:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7230/gemox1.th.jpg
"These Two Gems (Time-Reality) must be reunited,
otherwise ALL REALITIES, including this one, will be destroyed,
I have to use them to CREATE a New and stronger Reality,
one whose Fabric isn't unravelling as this one is"

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