Captain Atom vs Extant...

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Roldz
Quantum elemental vs Time Elemental.... Which one would win.. I say Captain Atom.... Quantum field traverse Time in DC...

Ext@nt
Extant erases the day of Nathanial Adams' Accident. Captain Atoms powers are based on Quantum Energy. Extant Can absrob it due to the powers he got from the Lords of Order and assimilate it into himself.

Basically he'd become Quantum Extant.

Roldz
Nah.. You cant erase Quantum.. Quantum field allows him control not only over time but realty as well... by summoning the quantum field he can virtually do anything he wants.. He also control his own time...

Ext@nt
Yes But 2 points.

1.Extant can erase the event from history that turned him into Captain Atom. He's not eraseing anything quantum.

2. Extant has the ability he was given by the Lords of Order to absorb any form of energy and adapt it to himself. He would become Quantum Extant.

He did it with Waverider
He did it with the Worlogog
He did it with the Mobius Chair

If you read the Hawk and Dove series, it shows that when they were on a plane of Order or Choas their powers were greatly encreased. Extant posesss both of their powers as if they were on a plane like that.

Roldz
You can erase him anytime you want but as soon as he decides to come back hell be back, Once his summoned the quantum field he basicly becomes it and once he is in there well he control the field, anything is possible including the rewriting of his own history.. All Chronal energies is his play thing.. Quantum is basicly like the Speed force/OA's energy part of the Source...

Ext@nt
Your not understanding me. For the love of god, please pay attention.

Captian Atom got his powers from an explosion.

Extant erases the EVENT that GAVE Nathanial Adams the POWERS.

He isn't erasing Captian Atom, He's erasing the past EVENT that MADE him Captian Atom.

Brian Oswald
Originally posted by Roldz
You can erase him anytime you want but as soon as he decides to come back hell be back, Once his summoned the quantum field he basicly becomes it and once he is in there well he control the field, anything is possible including the rewriting of his own history.. All Chronal energies is his play thing.. Quantum is basicly like the Speed force/OA's energy part of the Source...
He may do that but Extant will just take himself back in time and deal with a non powered Atom

Roldz
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Your not understanding me. For the love of god, please pay attention.

Captian Atom got his powers from an explosion.

Extant erases the EVENT that GAVE Nathanial Adams the POWERS.

He isn't erasing Captian Atom, He's erasing the past EVENT that MADE him Captian Atom.
Once in the field, nothing matters... I dont think he can affect anybody in the real universe if Extant Erases them in history but since CA is not and is because of the field when in it, he can remake and rewrite himself in history.. and Besides before that happens the energies use by extant gets thrown back to the field hence there is no effect.. CA potentially as explained but no feats/scan to back it up..

Ext@nt
If Extant erases the event that gave him his powers he would no longer be able to do ANY of that. Look at my extant respect thread and see what he did to the flash.

And if the energies do come into contact with Extant he absrobs them and assimilates them into his form as a new power.

Roldz
You can erase the event that gave him powers but if prior to erasing him he already summoned the Q field it would not work since in the Q field anything is possible, he is protected by it even in the real world he does not exist anymore. he can always rewrite it back, Once it summoned it would always be there its one of greater part of the source as Takion mentioned..

Roldz
Ive got to get to work.. See ya, later..

Ext@nt
Still if Extant erases that event then while the quantum field itself may still exist Nathanial Adams can no longer manipulate it.

Roldz
No it exist because of him.. and while in it hes got powers to make any Universe he wants, including all it heroes... it

Ext@nt
Yes but if Extant erases the event that created his powers then he can no longer make it. Look what he did to the flash.

Even if he could change it back he wouldnt have the time to react.

UniOmni
IF Nate in the q field is a fullblown paradox, then Extant undoing the circumstances that gave birth to Cap, won't do a lick of good.

Ext@nt
But Cap cant do anything to Extant ethier.

Roldz
Originally posted by Ext@nt
But Cap cant do anything to Extant ethier.
Actually he can do few.. He can pull him off into the field, or suck off his life energy since every living creatures life energies in DC is connected to the field.. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=e366scd.jpg&.src=ph ...

Ext@nt
Originally posted by Roldz
Actually he can do few.. He can pull him off into the field, or suck off his life energy since every living creatures life energies in DC is connected to the field.. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rroldz/detail?.dir=79d8scd&.dnm=e366scd.jpg&.src=ph ...

Sorry that doesnt work on Extant, due to the Lords of Order, Extant can absorb energy and he can adapt it to himself. (What he did to Waverider)

If Cap tries to pull him anywhere he just transports back to vanishing point (Which is outside time and space)

Roldz
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Sorry that doesnt work on Extant, due to the Lords of Order, Extant can absorb energy and he can adapt it to himself. (What he did to Waverider)

If Cap tries to pull him anywhere he just transports back to vanishing point (Which is outside time and space)
Lord of order has no say in Q field, You can say its CA's own realm it exist solely for him..
Then whats the point of fighting if his just goes outside of time and space, might as well not fight..therefore there is no point fo this debate...lol... Also CA Q field is instantaneous when he wills it to exist...

Ext@nt
Originally posted by Roldz
Lord of order has no say in Q field, You can say its CA's own realm it exist solely for him..
Then whats the point of fighting if his just goes outside of time and space, might as well not fight..therefore there is no point fo this debate...lol... Also CA Q field is instantaneous when he wills it to exist...

But so is Extant's power instantanious.

Roldz
Originally posted by Ext@nt
But so is Extant's power instantanious.
But those powers would not work in the field since CA is law in there..
If both powers activate at desame time CA's field is far more versatile since he becomes a god on it...

Ext@nt
Originally posted by Roldz
But those powers would not work in the field since CA is law in there..
If both powers activate at desame time CA's field is far more versatile since he becomes a god on it...

But Extant is a God of time. And if they activated at the same time I think the DCU would be destoryed.

Roldz
Not destroyed but totally F@#k up.... lol, one thing the Q field couldnt handle is the source energy, CA tried to absorb all of Takions energies but was not able to handle it...

Ext@nt
LOL I'd love yto see Extant absorb his energies and become Takion Extant.

Roldz
That would be something... But i really dont know if that would work, Itd be like absorbing Darkseid and his OF... but if he could, that would be scary.. But it would never happened because Its got to controlled by an avatar of it... Say Highfather....

Ext@nt
Its the power he gets from The Lords of Order. When Dove died all her power went to him and mixed with his Hawk powers and ramped up both to uber levels.

Validus
Can't believe we have an Extant fanboy. Extant of all characters.

UniOmni
Originally posted by Validus
Can't believe we have an Extant fanboy. Extant of all characters.

What's so hard to believe about it??

The obscurity of his favorite??

Validus
Originally posted by UniOmni
What's so hard to believe about it??

The obscurity of his favorite??
Obscure is nice. I just don't see anything Extant did to gain fanboys in the first place. It'd be like having a Wasp fanboy.

Roldz
Well guess you have to like time manipulating powers to be his fan.. But he does have quit a very impressive feat... dough..

Jesse7
Captain Atom at full power, universes were like marbles to him, he created, destroyed, and did what ever he wanted to them on a whim.

CA takes this 10/10

Extant has no power over CA at all, Extant can go back in time all he wants to erase Cap, but it wont affect cap what so ever as CA is outside of time, his past has no connection to him.

Their is no past, present, or future, it is all one and simulatanious.

Time is but a thought, a dream, it is not real, it has no meaning and is not real to CA.

Roldz
But here a thing about him dough, in order for him to affect any being he has to pull them in his field.. He has never manipulated reality but made his owned... Now i know time continuity does not matter to him since he died turning his powers against him but still existed in the field...

Jesse7
Originally posted by Roldz
But here a thing about him dough, in order for him to affect any being he has to pull them in his field.. He has never manipulated reality but made his owned... Now i know time continuity does not matter to him since he died turning his powers against him but still existed in the field...

Well he has shown he can enlarge his field to universal and beyond, as in what he did in the wildstorm universe.

Universes like marbles on a whim.

Roldz
Originally posted by Jesse7
Well he has shown he can enlarge his field to universal and beyond, as in what he did in the wildstorm universe.

Universes like marbles on a whim.
Your right ive never thought about that Armageddon CA miniseries..lol
I was basing all this information on the Quantum Quest story arc.. Which ended in CA #57

Ext@nt
Originally posted by Jesse7
Captain Atom at full power, universes were like marbles to him, he created, destroyed, and did what ever he wanted to them on a whim.

CA takes this 10/10

Extant has no power over CA at all, Extant can go back in time all he wants to erase Cap, but it wont affect cap what so ever as CA is outside of time, his past has no connection to him.

Their is no past, present, or future, it is all one and simulatanious.

Time is but a thought, a dream, it is not real, it has no meaning and is not real to CA.

Whatever crack your on, your dealer owes you your money back.

In the DCU, time is made up of the Timestream and is very real.

Extant once recreated the Universe when he absorbed the power of the Worlogog and the Mobius Chair.

And by the way The only people the didnt get ereased was the JSA casue they were at Vanishing Point at the time. So techinically he;s already won this fight once.

Jesse7
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Whatever crack your on, your dealer owes you your money back.

In the DCU, time is made up of the Timestream and is very real.

Extant once recreated the Universe when he absorbed the power of the Worlogog and the Mobius Chair.

And by the way The only people the didnt get ereased was the JSA casue they were at Vanishing Point at the time. So techinically he;s already won this fight once.

Wrong, please don't act like a blind fan boy.

If you read CA you would know he is outside of the "time stream" and of the DCU, hes multiversal to put it simply. The abstraction of time means nothing to him, making and erasing universes on a whim CA was doing.

Ext@nt
LOL Wrong? Little girl, please read JSA 11-13 and make sure to wear your glasses.

SpunkySmurph
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Whatever crack your on, your dealer owes you your money back.


That doesn't make anysense...
That means it's not working...
and she's speaking sensibly...
and therefore she's right? no expression

Ext@nt
In JSA 11-13, Extant absorbed the power of the Worlogog and the Mobius Chair. He used all of hsi combined powers to remake the universe into one where the forces of Order and Choas battled each other endlessley. The ONLY Marvel characters other then Spectre and the Lords of Order and Chaos to not be changed was the JSA cause they were at Vanishing Point at the time.


Wether you like it or not, it happened.

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