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This idea has been talked about and debated in the Ideal KMC team thread alot, so I'm giving it a thread of it's own.


ideas, judges, anything related to the idea. a draft was being discussed, how would we go about that?

Someone PM Digi, Tron and the other mods. we need mod approval for this one,.

well teams need to be decided before hand before we make judges and for that matter we need rules

You need someone to direct it, organize it, and stay involved throughout the project.

You would need representatives from all teams on KMC

And most importantly you would need interest. I mean two tournaments were just done like a month ago. Plus I know DC and Newjak are planning on running one in the summer.

You dont really need mod approval that I know of just let them know and have them pin it.

Trickster you definetly are the hot headed mongoose. We were still in the midst of planning and you went and opened the thread

I'd be up for judging

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Plus I know DC and Newjak are planning on running one in the summer.

wicked

any idea of the parameters? ie, teams, character level ect?

how about four members frome each team.

Anyone willing to set up guidelines for the tournament

Let's go with something similar to Evangel's set up.

Herald level: Surfer, Quasar, most cosmics under Thanos.
Team Buster: guys like Hulk, Apoc, Mags, Despero, basically powerhouses under herald level or just edging it.
ESPers: high end telepaths
Bricks: from guys like Blob, to the upper tier like the General.
Street levelers: DP, Shang-Chi, Shen Kuei, etc.


We'll go with a draft of members. each team selects a captain and that captain picks 4 people. If there is an imbalance in the teams, the mods or judges can fix it.


Barred powers: Time manipulation, ALE type powers (at least, ones that can't be countered IE: Omega Effect type shit), magic (too much of a deus ex machina, plus any team that gets LP would murder if he got to use Strange ), and that's all I can think of.



What do you guys think? any ideas or changes?

Four members from each team? How many teams actually still exist?

Royal Family, GLC, Illuminati, Mongooses....and who else?

If I were to say a power level for the tournament I would say Mid Tier level (Namor, Ironman, Storm, ect). Why? The herald level was JUST done (plus E's slugfest was just done as well Trick), and DC/NJ want to do a street level tourney later.

Plus it is soooooooo much simplier to keep it simple. All the power ups for the herald levelers had my head spinning

we choose our players for our teams within our threads. deadline?

So the cap is Namor-level? Ok, I can work with that. 5-6 members better? as for teams, any team that wants in has to declare and send in a captain.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Let's go with something similar to Evangel's set up.

Herald level: Surfer, Quasar, most cosmics under Thanos.
Team Buster: guys like Hulk, Apoc, Mags, Despero, basically powerhouses under herald level or just edging it.
ESPers: high end telepaths
Bricks: from guys like Blob, to the upper tier like the General.
Street levelers: DP, Shang-Chi, Shen Kuei, etc.


I didn't really like that set-up honestly

A couple of reasons personally. The first is that on a team with surfer, magneto, and xavier, shang chi is almost worthless. The last tournament (or what I saw of it) just came down to the surfers and quasars doing massive energy attacks and the low end guys being cannon fodder...

The other is that, most times these tournaments seem to focus on the first moment of the fight. What person is able to do what faster than their opponent and how that single move wins he fight. With super powered characters like that can move at close to light speeds, the debate never goes anywhere. "no, my team wins because this FTL guy does this energy move" " no, my team moves because my FTL guy has marginally faster reflexes than your FTL guy."

It just seems to make things less provable. You can show for sure than one FTL character has better reflexes than the other... I don't know, maybe I'm just insane...

Keeping things limited to lower level characters might help, or using smaller teams... just my 2cents

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
So the cap is Namor-level? Ok, I can work with that. 5-6 members better? as for teams, any team that wants in has to declare and send in a captain.

Too many members.

My suggestion for all this?

Find a director first. THEN decide all the rules and regulations.

But yea I would say something like Namor, Ironman, Storm, (maybe Magneto?) Northstar/Quicksilver level with a three/four man team (each member of the team debating for one of the characters.)

Say three/four characters and three/four members?

4 man teams, capped at Namor/IM/Storm level. Ok. so who wants to run the show?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
You need someone to direct it, organize it, and stay involved throughout the project.

You would need representatives from all teams on KMC

And most importantly you would need interest. I mean two tournaments were just done like a month ago. Plus I know DC and Newjak are planning on running one in the summer.

You dont really need mod approval that I know of just let them know and have them pin it.



...

I can't see this doing great business, but you're welcome to try.

Hell, the partner herald tourney that leo/Kahn won was actually pretty close to this idea....but it wasn't an official "team" thing, there just happened to be some teams involved.

It's a busy time of year, and we just finished 2 tourneys and will be starting another this summer, with dedicated leadership and a plan. So good luck and all, but all I'll do is pin stuff if you do it.

I think Spunky and some others may have already been involved in discussing this but, I'd love to get the Illuminati and myself involved in this!

aw sweet, Our Mongooses Are eager as hell

Given that no one else is gonna do this, I'll run this show myself.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Given that no one else is gonna do this, I'll run this show myself.

Hey can I co run it with you?

Alright, after a brief discussion, Devil Lance and I are going to run this show.

Cool.

Alright. Namor is the strength cap. Quicksilver/Northstar is the speed cap. TP Cap is Grodd level. Cap for versatility is regular pre-extremis Iron Man.

4 people.

Brick
ESPer
Tech guy
Versatility (pretty much anyone who doesn't fit into the above 3. )


Any character who doesn't violate the rules can be used. If there are questionable picks, Devil Lance, Blair and myself will review them.

ummm....If this is going to actually happen, I wanna participate. Which means I dont want people to think I can one up them in who comes and who doesnt

Also a question: are you doing this in the same method as Batdude did? As in you have to pick a brick type character, a ESPer, a Tech Guy, and a Versatility guy?

Not just four Namor/Ironman/Storm level characters?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
ummm....If this is going to actually happen, I wanna participate. Which means I dont want people to think I can one up them in who comes and who doesnt

Also a question: are you doing this in the same method as Batdude did? As in you have to pick a brick type character, a ESPer, a Tech Guy, and a Versatility guy?

Not just four Namor/Ironman/Storm level characters?

I think letting people pick any 4 characters within the requirements would potentially make for more interesting battles actually.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I think letting people pick any 4 characters within the requirements would potentially make for more interesting battles actually.


Thats what I was thinking, but I'm not director here.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
ummm....If this is going to actually happen, I wanna participate. Which means I dont want people to think I can one up them in who comes and who doesnt

Also a question: are you doing this in the same method as Batdude did? As in you have to pick a brick type character, a ESPer, a Tech Guy, and a Versatility guy?

Not just four Namor/Ironman/Storm level characters?

yep thats how it is

what he said. as long as they qualify under the requirements of the character class and don't break the caps, they're ok.

Is this an individual or partner tourney?

Team (as in partner AND team)

As in you would have to pick someone from your GLC crew.

Not sure how many members though (1 per character? 2 for two characters?)

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Team (as in partner AND team)

As in you would have to pick someone from your GLC crew.

Not sure how many members though (1 per character? 2 for two characters?)

4 members 1 character each

Cool deal.....

I think I know just the team.....

Slow down everybody.

I think representatives from teams is just going to end up with arguing/fighting, etc.

I think teams, amongst themselves, should choose a team of four characters, and then anybody from the team can provide scans or arguments for the duration of the matches.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Slow down everybody.

I think representatives from teams is just going to end up with arguing/fighting, etc.

I think teams, amongst themselves, should choose a team of four characters, and then anybody from the team can provide scans or arguments for the duration of the matches.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Slow down everybody.

I think representatives from teams is just going to end up with arguing/fighting, etc.

I think teams, amongst themselves, should choose a team of four characters, and then anybody from the team can provide scans or arguments for the duration of the matches.


Some teams have more people in them than others. It would be unfair

Four representatives is more fair as it evens the playing field


I would suggest a way for all four representatives to be able to talk about the other characters they are not talking about. How can you build a strategy without at least mentioning the other members on your team

Seems like this needs a hell of a lot of work before it's going to look like a plausible idea.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Some teams have more people in them than others. It would be unfair

Four representatives is more fair as it evens the playing field


I would suggest a way for all four representatives to be able to talk about the other characters they are not talking about. How can you build a strategy without at least mentioning the other members on your team I was under the impression that all/most of the active teams had an adequate number of members... but, if you're worried about a swarm, we can limit it to a certain number of people per side. I suppose teams will have to set up individual votes or something.

Eh its simple in the idea:

KMC Teams going against each other

Four representatives

Four Characters

Rules: Pending



Edit: I think four from each side works just fine. You can work as a team that way, debating for the characters at hand

Below Namor, is it?

Below and equal to Namor/Ironman/Storm.....Think Mid Tier level


I have a few guys in mind that would work I think.

How about a league system rather than a knockout?

4 members each pick one character and have short 1 on 1 battles against members from the other teams.

3 points for a win and 1 for a draw.

Matches can last a couple of days with a 4-5 post limit.

That way everyone has equal responsibility for gaining their team's points.

It means more (shorter) matches for everyone and lets everyone face everyone else (apart from their teammates).

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Below and equal to Namor/Ironman/Storm.....Think Mid Tier level


I have a few guys in mind that would work I think.

Yeah. Me too.

1eye

Originally posted by Scoobless
How about a league system rather than a knockout?

4 members each pick one character and have short 1 on 1 battles against members from the other teams.

3 points for a win and 1 for a draw.

Matches can last a couple of days with a 4-5 post limit.

That way everyone has equal responsibility for gaining their team's points.

It means more (shorter) matches for everyone and lets everyone face everyone else (apart from their teammates).



Bottom of page curse lifted.

Meh.

I'd rather have group battles.

I think it allows for more creative character drafts

balloon

We're still debating whether we're gonna go with multiple 1v1 matches or group battles. I'm personally inclined to the group battle format.


However: TEAMS WILL PICK THEIR OWN REPS. The teams will pick their reps in their respective threads and send the finished list to this thread. As for whether you can talk about the other characters on your team or just argue for one guy, that's a decision your team will have to make. there's no strict set up for how the teams can debate, yet. But I'd rather keep that part open ended.

A fiery dice has been had with the pain of a million sorrows.

And so, a new god plays dice with the cosmos, and tears the rules of reality asunder. Yours was pretty kickass too.

Eh,i can't be assed to read the whole thread,just give me the gist of what happened and tell me where i need to go to lay out some pwnage.

get a team, get 4 people, sign up.

Will you be involved Tricker?If so.....


....I've already won.....

Read the rules martian, it's a whole new ball game.

So,you need some random cronies from team mongoose to even make me bat an eyelid?

Your more like Apocalypse everyday....

I am game for this tourny

Originally posted by Martian_mind
So,you need some random cronies from team mongoose to even make me bat an eyelid?

Your more like Apocalypse everyday....


Low blow I duno bout you guys but thinkin outside the box howbout makin 1vs1 gauntlet win style
example

blue's char1
blue's char2
blue's char3
blue's char4

vs

red char1
red char2
red char3
red char4



bc1 beats rc1 next bc1 vs rc2

Its abit diff ive only seen it used once on another forum. They utilized it quite well too

I sing a song to the battle of the nigerian, but he cannot hear me with his swallowed tongue.

He basks in the sunlight that reflects from my blade as i cleave the flesh from his bones.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Alright. Namor is the strength cap. Quicksilver/Northstar is the speed cap.

Better define that better, as Northstar can go lightspeed. Quicksilver's speed has nothing on Northstar, at best he tops was mach 10, while that was Northstar's cruising speed.

He moans wildly at the pleasures of grown men squeeling. It is his first kill. It's not taken idly but his forked blade is red hot with the freshness of slain meat.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
He moans wildly at the pleasures of grown men squeeling. It is his first kill. It's not taken idly but his forked blade is red hot with the freshness of slain meat.

ummm...what?

okay so what about members who are on multiple teams?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
ummm...what? A fiery red back gleams in the sunlight and he spots his target. The fork stood heavy in his arms. He lunged it.

Originally posted by invisiblewoman
okay so what about members who are on multiple teams?

just pick one

or they could just abstain from the tourney.

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
A fiery red back gleams in the sunlight and he spots his target. The fork stood heavy in his arms. He lunged it.

please stop spamming this thread

Ok, since Northstar is too damn fast, we're going with Quicksilver as the speed cap (About Mach 5-10 We'll discuss it more later). Which still leaves room for fast characters, but reduces the risk of speedblitzing dominating the tournament.

Well....then again Northstar cannot go TOO fast because he would tear up his body (I am talking pre upgrade northstar) but eh.....I dont think it hurts my thought up team at all.

This is very interesting.

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Well....then again Northstar cannot go TOO fast because he would tear up his body (I am talking pre upgrade northstar) but eh.....I dont think it hurts my thought up team at all.

Yeah he has had various upgrades from the Hand and the Children of the Vault augmenting him so he is vastly more durable.

thanks for the headsup mungi. I'd like to try and eliminate speedblitz as a viable tactic for the most part.

What are the rules on TP?

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
What are the rules on TP?

Grodd level.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Grodd level.
Yeah around there

also while things like psy bolts and regular TP atatcks and defenses like mind blocks are okay.

Things like lobotomiseing people, and taking control of your opponents are not.

start forming your teams people because sign ups will be starting soon.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
start forming your teams people because sign ups will be starting soon. Well I think you may have to hammer some more things out.

Maybe get all the rules together in one post.

whether it is going to be 4 1 on 1 matches
or 1 4 on 4 matches.

Basically give it a little longer the flesh out maybe at most a week.

Originally posted by Newjak
Well I think you may have to hammer some more things out.

Maybe get all the rules together in one post.

whether it is going to be 4 1 on 1 matches
or 1 4 on 4 matches.

Basically give it a little longer the flesh out maybe at most a week.
its 1 4 on 4

I would prefer singuler, 4 on 4 matches, then multiple 1 on 1 matches.

4 on 4 allows more creativity with drafts and whatnot

Originally posted by Scoobless
Seems like this needs a hell of a lot of work before it's going to look like a plausible idea.

A master list of rules, limits, etc. is always a good start...because no one outside of a few will have any idea what the hell's going on otherwise.

I have to be honest, I'm mostly disinterested at this point. But good luck and all. If it happens, it's better to have a good tourney than a crap one, so I wish you luck.

And also if it happens, go Corps. Count me out (sorry, too busy), but woot.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Pretty much

Originally posted by DigiMark007



I really disagree
Trickster and I have talekd about this a lot ,and we've got most of the rules ironed out so its not like we're going into this without a plan.

Theres a lot of intrest in the tourney

And anyways the sooner this tourney starts the more time there will be between Newjack/DC's toruney.

but whatever :

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I would prefer singuler, 4 on 4 matches, then multiple 1 on 1 matches.

4 on 4 allows more creativity with drafts and whatnot

and thats the way it always was some people just need to read more throughly

Right.

I'm making a master rule set , for clarification (as there is a definite need for one)

1. Each CBF Team must select 4 posters to represent them. This will be the "tourney team for <insert name of CBF team>"
2. Each tourney team selects four characters. There are four roles to fill on the team of characters. Thusly, one character per role:

The roles are as follows:
Brick Character (The strength guy. Maybe flight/speed, etc., but very limited versatality)
Psychic Character (ESPer. The guy who's prominent powers are mentally-based)
Tech Guy (The guy with the goods. It is his equipment you will be relying on for the tourney)
Versatile Guy (The guy who doesn't fall into the above categories, who would have the most options in a fight. A GL is very versatile. Thor would be quite versatile.)

3. For each character role, there is a power limit. No character may exceed these limits.

Category - Limit (You can equal or be inferior to this person for said category)

Strength - Namor
Telepathy - Grodd
Speed - Quicksilver
Versatality - Pre-extremis Ironman

If there are questions about certain characters being within the limits or not, then either PM Trickster, Devil Lance or Blair, or post them on the thread. One of the three will give an official decision about it.

4. Do not take a character who's specific area wasn't covered in the discussion, ( for example, a special form of Telepathy that isn't relateable to Grodd) but who you know could possibly be legitamatley over the limit. The right is reserved for a tourney host to ban a particular method of battle in the midst of a debate, so it is advised that you clear risky decisions or methods before hand, via PM. If you choose not to clear it, be prepared to argue the legitimacy of this move in your debate.

5. About TP- Mind attacking, psibolts, etc. are all forms of telepathy that are allowed. Controlling the mind/body of an enemy, making them attack their teammates, etc. is NOT allowed. If there are questions, ask them before battles.

______________________________________________

These are the rules as I understand them so far. Trickster, Devil Lance, or Blair may clarify something if I got it wrong, or if I missed something.

It's just historically been bad to try to have a tourney during the peak of school season....participants, judges, forum interest, etc. Especially wedged between other tourneys. And a good tourney, start-to-finish, takes at least a couple months (maybe a bit longer)...so we'll be covering a lot of ground and headed into early summer before this is over.

If you prove me wrong, cool. But that's just my feelings on the matter.

Digi is right that we need a few more days. But after a day or two, we should be ready to post a master rule set and restrictions. And yes, it is a 4v4 match between two teams. The 1v1 setup doesn't work IMO.

Regarding TP: anything outside lobotomizing, and controlling the other team is legal.

Matter manipulation: if you do pick someone with this power, you can mess with the field, but not the other team.

power-sharing/ amping: Superboy Kon-El is the limit, for now.

and Devil Lance is the man in charge....I dont know how my name got involved in all this, as I am forming a team myself.

TK is allowed for the TP guy I am assuming?

Meh Digi I think the rules need to be a bit more thought out but from the sound of it these matches should only take a day or two something like that.

TK's legal, as long as you don't lobotomize, or stop someone's heart, or something along those lines.

Blair: You're basically an advisor. Devil is running the show once we get underway. I'm just doing the set up. I'll turn the reins over soon enough.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest

Regarding TP: anything outside lobotomizing, and controlling the other team is legal.


can we specify lobotomizing a little more...

What would be the ruling on shutting down receptor neurons in the eyes/ears/skin?

what about electromagnetic stimulation of various brain regions? technically the last one is not even a form of TP but electric manip

Well, it's kind of a grey area. But we'll allow it. you're good.

to reiterate: certain powers and characters will be banned.

Karate Kid
Squirrel Girl
Doop
Animal Man at full potential (He's capped at earth based animals only)
Temugin (His father, is however, legal, pending review)
Johnny Sorrow
Gentleman Ghost
Gamora (pending review)

Duplicators (Multiple Man, etc)
Time control/time manipulation
magic
Death touch-like abilities (Famine, Death Gambit, Zero, Johnny Sorrow, basically no one hit KO powers)


that's all so far.

what about the durability cap?

or people who can exist without a physical body or as pure energy?

Originally posted by inamilist
what about the durability cap?

or people who can exist without a physical body or as pure energy?

Druability is agian in the Namor/ Thing/ Regular Ironman range


people like the Ray are fine people who can't be hit at all aren't

what he said on the 2nd. as for the first, Thing level is what we're going with for now.

I think we need an energy-powers cap

Oh, and Gamora shouldn't be banned, IMO. Unlike the others, she has been beaten. It's not like she exceeds any of the caps. Not to mention, there are people that are quite arguably just as skilled, or moreso, then her.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I think we need an energy-powers cap

Oh, and Gamora shouldn't be banned, IMO. Unlike the others, she has been beaten. It's not like she exceeds any of the caps. Not to mention, there are people that are quite arguably just as skilled, or moreso, then her.

I'd say the enrgy cap is around the Ray/Dr. Light pre mindwipe level

Hmm. ok then. Gamora stays. But no god-slayer sword.

Energy powers cap is Sinister level, for now. or what he said. whichever works.

Originally posted by Newjak
Meh Digi I think the rules need to be a bit more thought out but from the sound of it these matches should only take a day or two something like that.

Like I said, I'll be happy to be proved wrong. Still can't participate (not joking about the psycho-busy part) but you'll have your stuff pinned if and when this takes off.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Like I said, I'll be happy to be proved wrong. Still can't participate (not joking about the psycho-busy part) but you'll have your stuff pinned if and when this takes off. Nice sig by the way

Originally posted by Newjak
Nice sig by the way


stop spamming

Originally posted by Devil Lance
stop spamming It wasn't spam there is a code there between me and Digi and talks about the entire Tourny who is in who is gonna win even some of the picks that are gonna be made. It is a very complex code


anyways looking forward to a pleasant tourny

*farts in brail to newjak*

posting rules: Only match participants and judges can post in the match threads. no limits on posting otherwise.

Also, we need judges.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
*farts in brail to newjak*

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Originally posted by Newjak
Nice sig by the way

Originally posted by TricksterPriest


posting rules: Only match participants and judges can post in the match threads. no limits on posting otherwise.

Also, we need judges.

I assume you'll have some sort of time limitation.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I assume you'll have some sort of time limitation. Two minutes?

Originally posted by DigiMark007
*farts in brail to newjak*

*Smells brail fart and returns with a burp in sign language*




Yeah if this supposed to be a quick tourny then the matches shouldn't last very long possibly two days

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I assume you'll have some sort of time limitation.

yep matches will be 3 to 4 days long

and theres no post limit
so particpants can post as much as they want within the time limit.

Originally posted by Newjak
*Smells brail fart and returns with a burp in sign language*


really stop it

Originally posted by Devil Lance
really stop it I'm sorry I hit the submit button to fast I was really trying to talk about the time limit

Originally posted by Newjak
I'm sorry I hit the submit button to fast I was really trying to talk about the time limit

fine

Originally posted by Devil Lance
fine Kool so 34 days no post limit hmm haven't seen that for two tournies should be sweet though.

Originally posted by Newjak
Kool so 34 days no post limit hmm haven't seen that for two tournies should be sweet though.

yep

Rules So Far
1. Each CBF Team must select 4 posters to represent them. This will be the "tourney team for <insert name of CBF team>"
2. Each tourney team selects four characters. There are four roles to fill on the team of characters. Thusly, one character per role:

The roles are as follows:
Brick Character (The strength guy. Maybe flight/speed, etc., but very limited versatality)
Psychic Character (ESPer. The guy who's prominent powers are mentally-based)
Tech Guy (The guy with the goods. It is his equipment you will be relying on for the tourney)
Versatile Guy (The guy who doesn't fall into the above categories, who would have the most options in a fight. A GL is very versatile. Thor would be quite versatile.)

3. For each character role, there is a power limit. No character may exceed these limits.

Category - Limit (You can equal or be inferior to this person for said category)

Strength - Namor
Telepathy - Grodd
Speed - Quicksilver
Versatality - Pre-extremis Ironman

If there are questions about certain characters being within the limits or not, then either PM Trickster, Devil Lance or Blair, or post them on the thread. One of the three will give an official decision about it.

4. Do not take a character who's specific area wasn't covered in the discussion, ( for example, a special form of Telepathy that isn't relateable to Grodd) but who you know could possibly be legitamatley over the limit. The right is reserved for a tourney host to ban a particular method of battle in the midst of a debate, so it is advised that you clear risky decisions or methods before hand, via PM. If you choose not to clear it, be prepared to argue the legitimacy of this move in your debate.

5. About TP- Mind attacking, psibolts, etc. are all forms of telepathy that are allowed. Controlling the mind/body of an enemy, making them attack their teammates, etc. is NOT allowed. If there are questions, ask them before battles.

______________________________________________

TK's legal, as long as you don't lobotomize, or stop someone's heart, or something along those lines.

to reiterate: certain powers and characters will be banned.

Karate Kid
Squirrel Girl
Doop
Animal Man at full potential (He's capped at earth based animals only)
Temugin (His father, is however, legal, pending review)
Johnny Sorrow
Gentleman Ghost
Gamora (pending review)

Duplicators (Multiple Man, etc)
Time control/time manipulation
magic
Death touch-like abilities (Famine, Death Gambit, Zero, Johnny Sorrow, basically no one hit KO powers)

Durability is in the Namor/ Thing/ Regular Ironman range

people like the Ray are fine people who can't be hit at all aren't

the energy cap is around the Ray/Dr. Light pre mindwipe/Sinsiter level

posting rules: Only match participants and judges can post in the match threads. no limits on posting otherwise.

no post limit

match length= 3 too 4 days

Oh and signups start tentatively sometime this weekend Saturday or Sunday most likely

If anyone has any questions pm me or tricksterpriest

Originally posted by Devil Lance
and theres no post limit
so particpants can post as much as they want within the time limit.

That may not be a good idea ... matches get a little stupid after a while ... limiting people to a cetain number of posts ensures better quality banter.

Even moreso if you're having 8 diffrent people posting in each match.

Hehe. I was actually prepping myself for a future Iron Man-ish tourney, since that level intigues me. But it was a long process. I'm also not sure I'd be able to find competent people in all of the categories (how many Iron-Man-level telepaths are there, for example?). And most of my ideas would fall into the last category (versatile)...so I'd be annoyed with that too.

But good luck to all who enter.

{edit}

Originally posted by Scoobless
That may not be a good idea ... matches get a little stupid after a while ... limiting people to a cetain number of posts ensures better quality banter.

Even moreso if you're having 8 diffrent people posting in each match.



I'm glad you feel that way

but its staying the way it is for now

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Hehe. I was actually prepping myself for a future Iron Man-ish tourney, since that level intigues me. But it was a long process. I'm also not sure I'd be able to find competent people in all of the categories (how many Iron-Man-level telepaths are there, for example?). And most of my ideas would fall into the last category (versatile)...so I'd be annoyed with that too.

But good luck to all who enter.

maye you aren't creative enough

not to just come in here and agree with digi and scoob, but I agree with them 100%

the categories (brick, EP, ect) are kinda lame imho. We should be able to pick 4 people that are within the limits regardless of their powerset.

A post cap is good too, because the threads will get flooded by nonsense, especially if multiple members for a team are all trying to post at once. If a "post captain" (someone who has to post for all team members) was put in, or a limit to posts, I'd be in favor.

Any ideas about the draft yet?

Originally posted by inamilist
not to just come in here and agree with digi and scoob, but I agree with them 100%

the categories (brick, EP, ect) are kinda lame imho. We should be able to pick 4 people that are within the limits regardless of their powerset.

A post cap is good too, because the threads will get flooded by nonsense, especially if multiple members for a team are all trying to post at once. If a "post captain" (someone who has to post for all team members) was put in, or a limit to posts, I'd be in favor.

Any ideas about the draft yet?

fine whatever 12 posts per person

but hell no on changing the catergories

Its not my fault people don't know a lot of characters


Bricks are easy- Things, Warpath, Mortal Hercules, Strong Guy, Wonder Girl, Namor , grey hulk, Atlas, Hawkman, I can go on and on


and Tps- Miss Martian, Jean Grey Minus phoenix powers, Gorilla Grodd, Aquaman minus his water, Monet, Emma Frost, Exodus ,Rachel Grey, Psylocke.

tech guys - Cyborg, Mr. Fantastic, Ironman, Warmachine, Goliath, Yellow Jacket ( past versions of the same characters are allowed to be drafted) Gizmo. lex Luthor in his battle suit , , Steel etc etc

versatality - Ms Marvel, Dr Light, Ray, Human Torch, Polaris, Redstar, Indigo,Classic Ice man, Metamorpho

those are plenty of people you could draft
jeez

I dont think post captain would work. None of the other members would get to do anything. The team just needs to work together well and post when they need to post

Originally posted by Blair Wind
I dont think post captain would work. None of the other members would get to do anything. The team just needs to work together well and post when they need to post

I agree

Metamorpho = should be banned. You should really have a "killabillity limit", which is slightly different than a durability limits.

Also, categories are fine. I'm not saying there aren't picks....just that a lot of the best ones are in the versatile department, so it's frustrating for someone who does their homework, has about 3-4 great picks that no one else is seriously considering, but 2-3 of them are in the "versatile" category.

It's not a bad idea...just not my cup of tea. That's all. But I'm not even entering, so it's not a huge deal.

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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Metamorpho = should be banned. You should really have a "killabillity limit", which is slightly different than a durability limits.

Also, categories are fine. I'm not saying there aren't picks....just that a lot of the best ones are in the versatile department, so it's frustrating for someone who does their homework, has about 3-4 great picks that no one else is seriously considering, but 2-3 of them are in the "versatile" category.

It's not a bad idea...just not my cup of tea. That's all. But I'm not even entering, so it's not a huge deal.

I was just listing him as a possible pick

and yes Digi yoyu've made it very clear that this tourney isn't your cup of tea

no offense

Originally posted by Devil Lance
I was just listing him as a possible pick

and yes Digi yoyu've made it very clear that this tourney isn't your cup of tea

no offense

None taken. If my griping helps make it better, then it'll be better for KMC. So hopefully my devil's advocate role pays off a bit.

I'm for a limit of abilities rather than having to pick 4 characters that fit specific roles. I think we should simply have a cap of what a drafted character's limits should be, not pick a brick, a jack of all trades, a psi, etc. You should have free reign to build your team.

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm for a limit of abilities rather than having to pick 4 characters that fit specific roles. I think we should simply have a cap of what a drafted character's limits should be, not pick a brick, a jack of all trades, a psi, etc. You should have free reign to build your team.

its nice you feel that way

but no we're sticking with the four catergories

and thats final

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm for a limit of abilities rather than having to pick 4 characters that fit specific roles. I think we should simply have a cap of what a drafted character's limits should be, not pick a brick, a jack of all trades, a psi, etc. You should have free reign to build your team.

I agree.

Again, it allows for more creativity. I think categories are better suited for tourneys that get into the higher power levels- herald, cosmic, etc.

Ironman level? We should be allowed to have the freedom of creativity

Originally posted by illadelph12
I'm for a limit of abilities rather than having to pick 4 characters that fit specific roles. I think we should simply have a cap of what a drafted character's limits should be, not pick a brick, a jack of all trades, a psi, etc. You should have free reign to build your team.

Yeah, catagories are fine for herald level games due to the insane power levels but for this type of game there's no need for it.

And limiting people to 12 posts? why even bother? who needs 12 posts to make their point? especially when they have 3 other team members making the points at the same time.

Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
I agree.

Again, it allows for more creativity. I think categories are better suited for tourneys that get into the higher power levels- herald, cosmic, etc.

Ironman level? We should be allowed to have the freedom of creativity

Fine you win

whatever no more catergories

no can everyone please stop your freaking B*tching

I say 1 freaking post per person.

That post will so intense, it'll be hilarious.

Actually I do agree with most people the Categories are rather useless and do seem hamper instead of help.

Honestly with a 3-4 to four day match with 4 people on each team giving everyone three - 4 posts would probably be better.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah, catagories are fine for herald level games due to the insane power levels but for this type of game there's no need for it.

And limiting people to 12 posts? why even bother? who needs 12 posts to make their point? especially when they have 3 other team members making the points at the same time.

no we're stayong with the twelve post limt who gives a crap if people have posts left over your nitpicking and I'm sick and tired of it

Originally posted by Newjak
Actually I do agree with most people the Categories are rather useless and do seem hamper instead of help.

Honestly with a 3-4 to four day match with 4 people on each team giving everyone three - 4 posts would probably be better.

no

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I say 1 freaking post per person.

That post will so intense, it'll be hilarious.



Nobody will want to go first. ermm

And I say unlimited posts per person... if we cap it off at a few days, I doubt a post limit would matter that much.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I say 1 freaking post per person.

That post will so intense, it'll be hilarious.



That post will so intense ?

and you teach what Digi?

Originally posted by Devil Lance
no Ok ythat is actually fine with me thinking about it 3-4 days people aren't going to be able to post a lot anyways.
So yeah 12 post limit is fine.

Now that we've got the drafting limits down, shall we move on to combat. Are we going to have random battlefields or a standard for each match?

Originally posted by Devil Lance
That post will so intense ?

and you teach what Digi?

I was so intense myself I missed the word.

Subtle irony friend.

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Anyway, unlimited posts = someone with free time that particular 2-day stretch dominates the arguments. Whereas someone who might work a bunch those 2 days = screwed. Schedules will become a huge factor with short matches, so I think a post limit helps in that regard.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
your nitpicking and I'm sick and tired of it

That is what organising tourneys is all about, get used to it.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Now that we've got the drafting limits down, shall we move on to combat. Are we going to have random battlefields or a standard for each match?

randon setting of my chosing

also each team gets 45 minutes of prep time before each match

Originally posted by Devil Lance
randon setting of my chosing

also each team gets 45 minutes of prep time before each match 45 minutes of unrestricted prep?

Sorry most of us have been in at least two tournies and try to make sure we know all the rules being allowed.

Originally posted by Newjak
45 minutes of unrestricted prep?

Sorry most of us have been in at least two tournies and try to make sure we know all the rules being allowed.

45 minutes ofprep but you can't leave the area in which I put you in for your prep.
You'll probably bee in a blank room too so no one will be able to sue the room the prep is in to powe rup.

Originally posted by Devil Lance
45 minutes ofprep but you can't leave the area in which I put you in for your prep.
You'll probably bee in a blank room too so no one will be able to sue the room the prep is in to powe rup. Ok so no leaving the prep area and we only get what we have on us ok.

I'm assuming we can't spy on the otehr team either

Sounds good though

SMIZASCHE SHALL TAKE THEE AND SMITE THEE ALL!!!!! THE POWER OF SMIZASCHE PREVAILS!

Originally posted by Newjak
Ok so no leaving the prep area and we only get what we have on us ok.

I'm assuming we can't spy on the otehr team either

Sounds good though

nope no spying you do althoug get the name sof the people you are facing

llastly about the battles

no PIS or CIS evryone is bloodlusted

Originally posted by Rick/Genis
SMIZASCHE SHALL TAKE THEE AND SMITE THEE ALL!!!!! THE POWER OF SMIZASCHE PREVAILS!
is your team actualy joining the tourney?

Originally posted by Devil Lance
nope no spying you do althoug get the name sof the people you are facing

llastly about the battles

no PIS or CIS evryone is bloodlusted No CIS huh

Oh thats awesome although most people tend to not use CIS anyways.