Artificial Intelligence

The question is this, can an Intelligence which is of artificial life be considered sentient and indeed equal with Organic Intelligence?

Should we ever develop "robots" who are say like Data from Star Trek or Andrew from The Bicentennial Man should they have access to the same human rights as mankind?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
The question is this, can an Intelligence which is of artificial life be considered sentient and indeed equal with Organic Intelligence?

Should we ever develop "robots" who are say like Data from Star Trek or Andrew from The Bicentennial Man should they have access to the same human rights as mankind?

Yes. We are the ones who determine what sentient is and is not, so it is better to give the benefit of doubt.

Umm, just to ask, is cloning also considered "artificial?"

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
The question is this, can an Intelligence which is of artificial life be considered sentient and indeed equal with Organic Intelligence?

Sure. Why not?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Should we ever develop "robots" who are say like Data from Star Trek or Andrew from The Bicentennial Man should they have access to the same human rights as mankind?

If we did they should. I assume for safety's sake we'll stick with non-volitional AIs for a long time.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
...If we did they should. I assume for safety's sake we'll stick with non-volitional AIs for a long time.

😆 I agree. No building Cylon's any time soon.

I don't think a robot could ever think for itself, it could just seem to. No, they are robots. They don't deserve the same rights as humans.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
I don't think a robot could ever think for itself, it could just seem to. No, they are robots. They don't deserve the same rights as humans.

There's no major difference between a collection of cells thinking and a collection of transistors thinking.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's no major difference between a collection of cells thinking and a collection of transistors thinking.

Ok be honest, we both know that's know what the question is asking

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
The question is this, can an Intelligence which is of artificial life be considered sentient and indeed equal with Organic Intelligence?

Should we ever develop "robots" who are say like Data from Star Trek or Andrew from The Bicentennial Man should they have access to the same human rights as mankind?

I'd say yes.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
The question is this, can an Intelligence which is of artificial life be considered sentient and indeed equal with Organic Intelligence?

Should we ever develop "robots" who are say like Data from Star Trek or Andrew from The Bicentennial Man should they have access to the same human rights as mankind?

Humans' are molecular machines, functions of matter, which is a function of energy which is a function of information which is a function of bits, the universe is... reality and reality is an idea a category made by man to explain the world.

Molecular machines born of man, our children are as human as we are, their rights should be the same.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
There's no major difference between a collection of cells thinking and a collection of transistors thinking.

But there really is, right? A collection of transistors thinking is really just a bunch of stuff programmed to execute protocols, it's not really thinking at all. Humans thinking is far more complex and connected to real emotions, physical feelings such as pain.

Sci Fi books and movies are great at making us believe machines can feel and think just like humans, but it's simply Sci Fi, that is all. It's not realistic and I don't think it ever will be.

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Should we ever develop "robots" who are say like Data from Star Trek or Andrew from The Bicentennial Man should they have access to the same human rights as mankind?

Okay okay, SHOULD we ever deveop such "robots", then yes, I agree that they should have access to the same human rights as mankind. But I don't think it will ever happen.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
But there really is, right? A collection of transistors thinking is really just a bunch of stuff programmed to execute protocols, it's not really thinking at all. Humans thinking is far more complex and connected to real emotions, physical feelings such as pain.

Sci Fi books and movies are great at making us believe machines can feel and think just like humans, but it's simply Sci Fi, that is all. It's not realistic and I don't think it ever will be.

Actually, that's more a philosophical question. But I think most scientists would say that humans are really just complex machines, far more complex than any robot we can build now (and probably for a long time), but really, it's not that different at all.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Actually, that's more a philosophical question. But I think most scientists would say that humans are really just complex machines, far more complex than any robot we can build now (and probably for a long time), but really, it's not that different at all.

It is very different. Most scientists would say that humans are complex machines, far more complex than any robot we can build now (and probably for a long time).

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
It is very different. Most scientists would say that humans are complex machines, far more complex than any robot we can build now (and probably for a long time).

But the thread starter asked, what if it wasn't that different anymore, and the sophistication of the robots approaches that of humans, what then?

Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
The question is this, can an Intelligence which is of artificial life be considered sentient and indeed equal with Organic Intelligence?

For me such machines should be able to reproduce. Meaning a female robot have to give birth. If it could do it...then I would say they can be equal or even given rights.

Until then...it remains no different than my Xbox 360.

(which btw- I happen to enjoy and sometimes...even love)

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
For me such machines should be able to reproduce. Meaning a female robot have to give birth. If it could do it...then I would say they can be equal or even given rights.

Until then...it remains no different than my Xbox 360.

(which btw- I happen to enjoy and sometimes...even love)

That's stupid.

Is the ability to reproduce essential to all humans then too? Should we use sterile people as slaves? I am pretty sure that the morals behind human rights are not based on the ability to **** and create offspring.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's stupid.

Is the ability to reproduce essential to all humans then too? Should we use sterile people as slaves? I am pretty sure that the morals behind human rights are not based on the ability to **** and create offspring.

Species should reproduce...yes...what species do Robots belong to?

Oh, we should give them rights because they can MIMIC or COPY such things as human emotions?

Yeah, why should a machine have rights?

Answer that BEFORE you throw that bags of tricks.

Originally posted by =Tired Hiker=
But there really is, right? A collection of transistors thinking is really just a bunch of stuff programmed to execute protocols, it's not really thinking at all. Humans thinking is far more complex and connected to real emotions, physical feelings such as pain.

Sci Fi books and movies are great at making us believe machines can feel and think just like humans, but it's simply Sci Fi, that is all. It's not realistic and I don't think it ever will be.

Everything you think and feel (physically and emotionally) is simply programmed into how your brain is built. It would obviously take a very long time but absolutely nothing prevents a machine from feeling emotions the way we do.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Oh, we should give them rights because they can MIMIC or COPY such things as human emotions?

Yes, otherwise high function autistics would have to be denied human rights.