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Hi all, I've been thinking for a while that KMC Movie versus Forums needs its own Movie Character Tier list. Much like how the comic book section has its own hierarchy.

The relevant rules I have copied directly from the Comic Book Version.

I have changed the Class titles to make it more relevant to movies, because comic book classes such as "Sub-skyfather" wouldn't really make much sense in the movie section.

Obviously, there will be many changes needed, aswell as addition of characters that are not in the list, but I suggest we do discuss it one character at a time to make it easier.

As a guide, characters in each class cannot be better/more powerful than these guide/standard characters

Omega

High
Dark Phoenix

Mid
Hancock

Low
Yoda

Herald

High


Mid
Abomination

Low
Obi Wan Kenobi


Superhuman

High
Megatron

Mid
Iron Man

Low
Storm

Metahuman


High
Michael Corvin

Mid
Spiderman

Low
Beast

Street Level

High

Agent 47

Mid

The Punisher

Low
Two-Face (Jones,


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Rules:
1. Any changes made, please try to bold them to point them out to others.
2. Alphabetize the list as needed.
3. Discussion should take place before a change, and at least 2-3 others (who are relatively "unbiased" and not huge fans of a particular character) should agree with you before an official change takes place.
4. I can't update the Master List every day. Be patient, and don't whine to me about changes that need edited in.
5. If you can't get support for a proposed change, let it drop once you've made your case.
6. Have fun and enjoy. This list obviously isn't perfect, but it will end up being one of the better indicators of power anywhere by the time it's refined and added to.

Notes:
1. This list is based off of total "power" in all its forms. Individual matchups might mean that someone in a lower tier could beat someone in a higher tier, but we're basing the list on general power levels, not individual matchups.
2. PIS should not be considered. CIS may be considered depending on the character, but will be dealt with on an individual basis.

3. Different incarnations of a character may be entered as different entries.

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The List

Omega

High
Superman, Dark Phoenix

Mid
Silver Surfer, Hancock

Low
Darth Vader, The Mask, Freddy Krueger, Luke Skywalker, Mace Windu, Palpatine, Professor X, Yoda



Herald

High


Mid
Abomination, Doctor Doom, Hulk (Norton), Hulk (Bana), Magneto,

Low
Obi Wan Kenobi


Superhuman

High
Megatron, Sandman

Mid
Blackout, Clover, Ghost Rider, Godzilla, Human Torch, Iron Man, Syndrome, Starscream, Optimus Prime

Low
Storm, T-X, T-1000, Eragon (with Saphira), Power Rangers (With Zords), Ringwraiths, Witch King


Metahuman


High

Dracula, Dracula's Brides, Jack-Jack, Lestat, Michael Corvin, Marcus Corvinus, Reed Richards, Scorpion, Selene, Susan Storm,



Mid
Blade, Boba Fett, Cyclops, Colossus, Dash Parr, Doctor Octopus, Frozone, Green Goblin, Hellboy, Iceman, Jason Voorhees, King Kong, Mister Incredible, Missus Incredible/Elastigirl, New Goblin, Nightcrawler, Predator, Pyro, The Shadow, The Thing, T101, Sabretooth, Spiderman, SubZero, Venom, Viktor, William Corvinus, Wolverine, Van Helsing (Werewolf Form), Violet Parr,

Low
Alien, Alice, Bane, Beast, Bullseye, Daredevil, Elektra, Legolas, Mr Freeze, Mystique, Toad, V

Street Level


High

Agent 47, Batman (Clooney), Batman (Bale), Batman (Kilmer), Batman (Keaton), Jason Bourne, James Bond (Craig), Lara Croft, Leonidas, Maximus, The Bride, The Transporter, Van Helsing,


Mid

Catwoman, Leon, Poison Ivy, Sarah Connor, Robin, The Punisher, The Joker, Zorro,

Low
Hannibal Lecter, The Penguin, Two-Face (Jones), Two-Face (Eckhart), The Riddler,

Delete.

Originally posted by Placidity
Delete.

yeah..that'd probably be best

I only meant that specific double post lol.

i know...i'm only messing with ya

God from such films as "Bruce Almighty", "The Ten Commandments" and other such things...tops the list surely?

Great idea, I was going to make this myself actually but you beat me to it. I'll add some.

While I do see this as an intriguing idea, I, personally, make a point to stay far, far away from the CB Vs Forum. What, exactly, will this do for the MVF, Placidity?

It will help people realize one's power range compared to other characters.

True, but that is an established set in the realm of comic books. How can we accurately range movie characters?

Judging by the feats they perform in their movies we can place them in areas that show Superman far away from Wolverine but just ahead of Hancock. If people review it should get most on the same page as of the characters power ranges and should stop pointless matches.

Sounds......plausible. Okay. I'm game.

This won' t work I feel, it could but it probably won't imo.

At one point we'll get to a certain two characters, and the thread will devolve into people arguing about those two.


edit- I say give it a chance, though.

Originally posted by Impediment
I'm game.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
This won' t work I feel, it could but it probably won't imo.

At one point we'll get to a certain two characters, and the thread will devolve into people arguing about those two.


edit- I say give it a chance, though.


True, but we can be optimistic and hope for the best.

That, and if anyone causes shit, I'll quickly smite them.

Originally posted by Darth Martin


That means I agree to the premise. dur

Originally posted by Impediment
That means I agree to the premise. dur


Originally posted by Impediment
True, but we can be optimistic and hope for the best.

That, and if anyone causes shit, I'll quickly smite them.

It'd also be nice if this became a "Note" thread so that it never gets lost.

Okay, Martin we're meant to do it one at a time, but its ok, I agree with most of it.

But first character I want to discuss is that Tomb Raider should join Street Level High class. I mean she has some very inhuman skills. E.g hitting a small coin-size target with a blade from at least 20m away. And the rest, everyone knows lol.

Agreed and I somehow forgot John McClane.

Movie Legolas was much better than movie Aragorn. What's Aragorn's greatest movie feat, killing Lurtz and defeating the Nine? Legolas took out a freakin' Mumuk.

what the hell is a Mumuk? and aragorn took on a troll single-handedly in rotk! Take the bow and arrow away from legolas and give him is swords, aragorn would pwn. same with hand to hand.

He was losing to that troll dude.

Mumukil are the big elephants.

And a bow is Legolas' weapon of choice, so what's your point? Give both of them bows and Legolas would own him as well.

Legolas>Aragorn w/o bow and just swords.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Legolas>Aragorn w/o bow and just swords.
that's BS.

I don't think Legolas could take Aragorn with just swords. He did nothing impressive with a sword.

The true show of their strength would be hand to hand. I think that the winner would be Aragorn.

Originally posted by Impediment
True, but we can be optimistic and hope for the best.

That, and if anyone causes shit, I'll quickly smite them.

Smite me all mighty smiter of smiting!

*Knocks over a glass of milk*

Yeah I'm starting shit...you wanna do the man dance? The first dance is yours.

Originally posted by Lethal Rogue
The true show of their strength would be hand to hand. I think that the winner would be Aragorn.

That's not, in any way, a "true showing of their strength".

Why not just have a top ten list? "Your personal top ten movie badasses of all time?" Much simpler.

Good idea, but this stays.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
That's not, in any way, a "true showing of their strength".
why not? neither of them have an advantage. i.e: legolas has long range.
And it shows how strong they are.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Smite me all mighty smiter of smiting!

*Knocks over a glass of milk*

Yeah I'm starting shit...you wanna do the man dance? The first dance is yours.

Ever dance with a devil in the pale moonlight?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
It'd also be nice if this became a "Note" thread so that it never gets lost.

Does anyone else agree?

I'm confused how Abomination is ranked as 'mid', while Obi Wan with his force abilities and light saber, which could cut Abominations to pieces, is ranked 'low'. It'd be like the black knight fight in MP & The Holy Grail.

Edit: Basically, I'm asking if the standards are logical to begin with?

also, superman is better than hancock...

Originally posted by Lethal Rogue
also, superman is better than hancock... My post shows it.

I think this thread is shit and should be closed.

As I already see, no one will agree with the hierarchy that was originally made.

I would hope this is closed before it gets out of hand. This isn't the comic forum, thank god.

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano

As I already see, no one will agree with the hierarchy that was originally made.




Read much?

Originally posted by Placidity

Obviously, there will be many changes needed, aswell as addition of characters that are not in the list, but I suggest we do discuss it one character at a time to make it easier.

------------------------------------

Rules:
1. Any changes made, please try to bold them to point them out to others.



3. Discussion should take place before a change, and at least 2-3 others (who are relatively "unbiased" and not huge fans of a particular character) should agree with you before an official change takes place.



6. Have fun and enjoy. This list obviously isn't perfect, but it will end up being one of the better indicators of power anywhere by the time it's refined and added to.

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Originally posted by Placidity
Read much?

Yes I did, and I still say it's shit. Of course this is just "my opinion".

I can have one, amirite?

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
Yes I did, and I still say it's shit. Of course this is just "my opinion".

I can have one, amirite?

Of course you can, if you don't mind sounding like a jerk.

Originally posted by Placidity
Of course you can, if you don't mind sounding like a jerk.


That's right, you made this thread. haermm

Originally posted by Lethal Rogue
why not? neither of them have an advantage. i.e: legolas has long range.
And it shows how strong they are.

Yeah they will, Aragorn has had actual training with in close combat, so of course he has an automatic advantage, that's bad logic, no offense.

That's like saying in a Hulk vs. Obi-Wan fight that Obi-Wan shouldn't be allowed to use the force or his lightsaber because it gives him an unfair advantage.

Originally posted by Impediment
Ever dance with a devil in the pale moonlight?

That's it, I've had it. I'm tired of these MF'n Impediments on my MF'n computer screen!

Originally posted by Ahsoka Tano
I think this thread is shit and should be closed.

As I already see, no one will agree with the hierarchy that was originally made.

I would hope this is closed before it gets out of hand. This isn't the comic forum, thank god.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/Impediment/Noimage.jpg

I lol'd when I found this pic.

*edit*

Originally posted by Darth Martin
My post shows it.
Ok.

I'm sorry...

But what in the movies that you saw indicate that Obi-Wan Kenobi is more powerful than Clover?

Whose list are you looking at?

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Yeah they will, Aragorn has had actual training with in close combat, so of course he has an automatic advantage, that's bad logic, no offense.

That's like saying in a Hulk vs. Obi-Wan fight that Obi-Wan shouldn't be allowed to use the force or his lightsaber because it gives him an unfair advantage.
Does the Hulk have weapons? no. I just said they can't use weapons. In this case above, that means obi wan can use the force.

No, its standard weapons and equipment.