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Kenshiro, the main character of the Fist of the North Star/Hokuto No Ken franchise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHy--NKdSnA&feature=related

vs.

Akuma (sometimes known as Gouki) from the the Street Fighter franchise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxVKlRUjJg

Who wins?

Kenshiro ass-rapes Akuma, then ass-rapes Ryu --- then comes back and ass-rapes Akuma again.

Thennnnn.... Kenshiro goes home, makes himself a club sandwich, gets bored, walks over to Akuma's violated corpse and ass-rapes it again.

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Kenshiro easily.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
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That's fine and all, I give Akuma the edge in raw strength but thanks to Hokuto Shinken and it's brokeness there is really no way for him to hit Ken if Ken so desires. Musou Tensei along with his already incredible reaction speed can counter any attack from Akuma unless he has way of hitting intangible beings. Not trying to sound like a smart ass, I'm seriously wondering.

Musou Tensei plus Kenshiro's ability to copy techniques he has seen once should win this for him

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Musou Tensei plus Kenshiro's ability to copy techniques he has seen once should win this for him

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
That's fine and all, I give Akuma the edge in raw strength but thanks to Hokuto Shinken and it's brokeness there is really no way for him to hit Ken if Ken so desires. Musou Tensei along with his already incredible reaction speed can counter any attack from Akuma unless he has way of hitting intangible beings. Not trying to sound like a smart ass, I'm seriously wondering. wasn't just raw strength in that clip.

gouki is an island buster, he can attack the environment the fight takes place on, and i forget the name of that technique where he launches a volley of gou hadukens like a machine gun from the air might be all he needs.

shun goku satsu is beyond what hakuto no ken can reflect.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
wasn't just raw strength in that clip.

gouki is an island buster, he can attack the environment the fight takes place on, and i forget the name of that technique where he launches a volley of gou hadukens like a machine gun from the air might be all he needs.

shun goku satsu is beyond what hakuto no ken can reflect.

That was Messatsu Gou Hadou, or the Marvel vs. SF version. It was amped in that series of games iirc.
As for Tenshou Kaireki Jin, all we saw are its destructive powers. We don't even know how the move hits and if Akuma can use it on Kenshiro or not.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
wasn't just raw strength in that clip.

gouki is an island buster, he can attack the environment the fight takes place on, and i forget the name of that technique where he launches a volley of gou hadukens like a machine gun from the air might be all he needs.

shun goku satsu is beyond what hakuto no ken can reflect.

I see what you're saying PG and I respect that and all but I don't think Akuma is the type to destroy the environment to gain a victory especially over someone of a worthy opponent as Ken would be.

HNK characters have dodged gunfire before, hell Souther dodged a Shotgun blast and point blank range. Ken also has projectiles and if the Hadouken is simply a way of channeling one's inner energy or whatever then I bet he could return a hadouken of his own. If you have to be born with that type of energy or something then I'll give up on that theory.

gouki wouldn't cheat to win for sure, but his attacks are so powerful that even if they miss the environment isn't safe from them....kenshiro is in that environment.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
That was Messatsu Gou Hadou, or the Marvel vs. SF version. It was amped in that series of games iirc. yeah, it was amped in terms of how many gou hadoukens he fires (same damage as the single fireball). he did use it in the street fighter 4 video posted above so.. idunno.Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
As for Tenshou Kaireki Jin, all we saw are its destructive powers. We don't even know how the move hits and if Akuma can use it on Kenshiro or not. that's the island buster punch, it doesn't need to hit directly to do damage since it's hits like a nuke.

gouki holding back like he does in most instances he appears might have problems with kenshiro, maybe lose a couple, but the instant he gets mad his power explodes (like goku versus the ginyu force) and imo the fight ends.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
gouki wouldn't cheat to win for sure, but his attacks are so powerful that even if they miss the environment isn't safe from them....kenshiro is in that environment.

yeah, it was amped in terms of how many gou hadoukens he fires (same damage as the single fireball). he did use it in the street fighter 4 video posted above so.. idunno. that's the island buster punch, it doesn't need to hit directly to do damage since it's hits like a nuke.

gouki holding back like he does in most instances he appears might have problems with kenshiro, maybe lose a couple, but the instant he gets mad his power explodes (like goku versus the ginyu force) and imo the fight ends. Ahh, Kongou Kokuretsu Zan is the Island Buster; TKG was just shown to destroy a Submarine. It might be an Island Buster.

Still, Shun Goku Satsu is another option, and it's his most devastating move. I don't know how Kenshiro can deal with that.

I just wanna say something here:

I don't see how Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu could deal with Musou Tensei. In addition, Kenshiro has shown to be much faster and deadlier up close and with his ability to copy techniques (as pointed out already), I don't see how Akuma can win this.

As for strength, I think Akuma has a SLIGHT advantage there.

And he's yet to show any feats when he's not holding back so I don't think that's gonna work either.

Kongou Kokuretsuzan is not an island buster. It just split ayers rock in two. And Gouki's island busting attack is obviously not a normal punch. It's a punch combined with manipulating his ki.

Also Kenshiro has insane durability and power where he stops the train with just one finger, Doesn't hurt after smashed by a big boulder on his head(and he keeps standing like it was nothing), Walking through the collapsing building and he isn't hurt after the building fall on his head. speedwise, he can strike 708 times per second and he already stopped Hyo's attack which could strike 1106 times per second.

There is also the fact that if he hits one pressure point it can be deadly

I can't really say who wins. Kenshiro has the right stuff to kill most mortal characters but I'm not sure if the whole pressure point thing is gonna go well for him. Not sayin' it wont, but I aint sayin it will.

1. Akuma has fought Gen. Gen has an attack that hits all your pressure points and then gives you 10secs to live. Gen fights very similar to Kenshiro, now, Gen's fighting style is mostly gamplay cuz he hasn't been seen in anything else, so I can't really say if Gen's abilities are as great Kenshiro's but Gen has killed ALOT of people with is kung fu that focuses 100% on pressure points.

2. Akuma has survived in water pressure so intense that a submarine is needed to venture into those depths. That's alot of pressure on his body. Not sure if Ken can attack with enough focus and force, maybe he can.

3. Akuma can also become intangible using the Ashura Senku. It turns him intangible for a short period of time while he glides from point "A" to point "B".

4. Akuma is no slowpoke, he went from the ocean floor to hundreds of feet above sea level in literal seconds.

5. To make things clear, Akuma has destroyed an island causing the many volcanoes on the island to erupt as well. He split Ayers Rock and he tore a battle ship in half while blowing up submarine at the same time from the shock wave.

6. Akuma has never been seen at full power and ALL his feats so far are only him at this lesser power level. Plus he has done alot of other things I really don't feel like mentioning.

Akuma has the raw power to possibly kill Kenshiro by keepin' the guy away...maybe and if Kenshiro gets in close he could kill Akuma...maybe.

Originally posted by No End N Site
I can't really say who wins. Kenshiro has the right stuff to kill most mortal characters but I'm not sure if the whole pressure point thing is gonna go well for him. Not sayin' it wont, but I aint sayin it will.

1. Akuma has fought Gen. Gen has an attack that hits all your pressure points and then gives you 10secs to live. Gen fights very similar to Kenshiro, now, Gen's fighting style is mostly gamplay cuz he hasn't been seen in anything else, so I can't really say if Gen's abilities are as great Kenshiro's but Gen has killed ALOT of people with is kung fu that focuses 100% on pressure points.

2. Akuma has survived in water pressure so intense that a submarine is needed to venture into those depths. That's alot of pressure on his body. Not sure if Ken can attack with enough focus and force, maybe he can.

3. Akuma can also become intangible using the Ashura Senku. It turns him intangible for a short period of time while he glides from point "A" to point "B".

4. Akuma is no slowpoke, he went from the ocean floor to hundreds of feet above sea level in literal seconds.

5. To make things clear, Akuma has destroyed an island causing the many volcanoes on the island to erupt as well. He split Ayers Rock and he tore a battle ship in half while blowing up submarine at the same time from the shock wave.

6. Akuma has never been seen at full power and ALL his feats so far are only him at this lesser power level. Plus he has done alot of other things I really don't feel like mentioning.

Akuma has the raw power to possibly kill Kenshiro by keepin' the guy away...maybe and if Kenshiro gets in close he could kill Akuma...maybe.

Not trying to sound like a smart ass or anything, but have you factored in that Kenshiro can pretty much learn your moves and replicate them just by watching you? He can also use this to predict and counter your moves.

I'm willing to bet that Kenshiro has way more knowledge and experience with pressure points than Gen. He and Hokuto Shinken make a broken combo. He was able to figure out Souther's secret, and he was able to affect Mr. Heart and King Uigharr who (Uigharr) boasted to have a 500 kilo ton body which was suppsoed to be impenetrable IIRC, I'm sure Mike, Kento or Bro Smash will correct me.

Kenshiro doesn't really go all out either. He lets loose sometimes but he doesn't put everything he has into one attack. Akuma won't have the chance to go all out if he doesn't choose to do so at the first sign of battle because Kenshiro can still end it with the right attack.

Kenshiro has the moves of his brothers and the styles of Nanto Seiken under his belt. How would Akuma counter a Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken?

Also have you seen Kenshiro's best reaction feats? He can react to many things coming at him either at incredible speeds or in many numbers.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Not trying to sound like a smart ass or anything, but have you factored in that Kenshiro can pretty much learn your moves and replicate them just by watching you? He can also use this to predict and counter your moves.

I'm willing to bet that Kenshiro has way more knowledge and experience with pressure points than Gen. He and Hokuto Shinken make a broken combo. He was able to figure out Souther's secret, and he was able to affect Mr. Heart and King Uigharr who (Uigharr) boasted to have a 500 kilo ton body which was suppsoed to be impenetrable IIRC, I'm sure Mike, Kento or Bro Smash will correct me.

Kenshiro doesn't really go all out either. He lets loose sometimes but he doesn't put everything he has into one attack. Akuma won't have the chance to go all out if he doesn't choose to do so at the first sign of battle because Kenshiro can still end it with the right attack.

Kenshiro has the moves of his brothers and the styles of Nanto Seiken under his belt. How would Akuma counter a Hokuto Ujou Hagan Ken?

Also have you seen Kenshiro's best reaction feats? He can react to many things coming at him either at incredible speeds or in many numbers. 1. Akuma's moves are designed for killing pretty easily. His normal Shoryuken is made to kill and is said to rip people apart. It really only takes 1 time to get hit by an attack that destroys giant landmasses that can be seen from space. How can someone learn and copy an attack if they die from it 1st (don't mean to sound like an ass). Also, can Kenshiro replicate attacks of this caliber cuz if he can, which I don't remember him being able to, he can beat anyone he comes up against...anyone.

2. I don't really see how any of that proves Kenshiro is better than Gen. But Gen was once the worlds most deadliest assassin who can hang wit the likes of Akuma despite the fact he's in the final stages of Leukemia. In fact, given from what's in the game, he's actually VERY similar to Kenshiro in style. Just not sure if his abilities can match Ken's, prolly not though. He is also as old as Akuma and Kneshiro combined, maybe. He's experienced.

3. You say Akuma wont have a chance to go all out, based on what? I can easily say the reverse in this situation. There is no proof that Kenshiro attacks will have the same affect they have on everyone else, based on the ridiculous feats and abilities of Akuma. Which I've named already. Has Kenshiro ever fought someone like Akuma? Do you know what would happen to the human body if it were on the sea floor then shot hundreds of feet above the same sea he was standing in in just a matter of seconds, lets just say "The Bends" X 100, meaning a human would die instantly and their insides would be turned into goo from that dramatic changes in pressure. I don't remember Ken fightin' someone like that, if he has, refresh my memory.

4. Ken is pretty fast. I wont go assumin' Akuma's real speed cuz he has only a few instances of super speed, most I've mentioned already, so I can see Ken bein' faster than Akuma, but not by enough to really mater. I think these two are at different ends of the martial arts spectrum. Given that fact that I'm not sure Ken's moves will kill Akuma and given the fact that I'm not sure of the reverse, I still think this is a fight that's too close to call.

Originally posted by No End N Site
1. Akuma's moves are designed for killing pretty easily. His normal Shoryuken is made to kill and is said to rip people apart. It really only takes 1 time to get hit by an attack that destroys giant landmasses that can be seen from space. How can someone learn and copy an attack if they die from it 1st (don't mean to sound like an ass). Also, can Kenshiro replicate attacks of this caliber cuz if he can, which I don't remember him being able to, he can beat anyone he comes up against...anyone.

2. I don't really see how any of that proves Kenshiro is better than Gen. But Gen was once the worlds most deadliest assassin who can hang wit the likes of Akuma despite the fact he's in the final stages of Leukemia. In fact, given from what's in the game, he's actually VERY similar to Kenshiro in style. Just not sure if his abilities can match Ken's, prolly not though. He is also as old as Akuma and Kneshiro combined, maybe. He's experienced.

3. You say Akuma wont have a chance to go all out, based on what? I can easily say the reverse in this situation. There is no proof that Kenshiro attacks will have the same affect they have on everyone else, based on the ridiculous feats and abilities of Akuma. Which I've named already. Has Kenshiro ever fought someone like Akuma? Do you know what would happen to the human body if it were on the sea floor then shot hundreds of feet above the same sea he was standing in in just a matter of seconds, lets just say "The Bends" X 100, meaning a human would die instantly and their insides would be turned into goo from that dramatic changes in pressure. I don't remember Ken fightin' someone like that, if he has, refresh my memory.

4. Ken is pretty fast. I wont go assumin' Akuma's real speed cuz he has only a few instances of super speed, most I've mentioned already, so I can see Ken bein' faster than Akuma, but not by enough to really mater. I think these two are at different ends of the martial arts spectrum. Given that fact that I'm not sure Ken's moves will kill Akuma and given the fact that I'm not sure of the reverse, I still think this is a fight that's too close to call.

1. I know Akuma can kill someone with his shoryuken. But rip people apart? When did this happened?

2. Gen is the deadliest assassin in his own universe but in front of Kenshiro he is nothing. Kenshiro has more power, speed and durability than Gen. Don't forget that Gen also never blew people's head while Kenshiro already did that almost everyday.

3. Kenshiro fought people who are much more powerful than Akuma such as Raoh, Kaioh, Hyo, etc. And they had a crazy durability such as Kaioh who didn't melt after got splashed by a gallon of acid, etc.

4. Tell me when did Akuma stops 1106 punches in a second, his attacks can't be seen by normal eyes and I'll say this is an even match. Kenshiro is much faster than Akuma.

-kenshiro is 100x faster. let me know day akuma can punch 100x within a second
-kenshiro can teleport as well
-kenshiro could lift giagantic boulders with ease without even flinching
-stopped a train with three fingers. nuff said.
-has dodged bullets, arrows, multiple projectiles with ease
-can crush diamands between his fingers
-survived a building falling on his head....in fact he walked right through it.
-knows the inside and outside of the human body to the point that he can literally make them do anything he wants with a mere touch of his fingers. "Akuma, i've touched the point on your body that'll make you fist yourself to death"=akuma fists himself to death

akuma fans....please stop trying. he's losing this one like a mofo. regular akuma was having trouble dealing with ryu in the SF4 trailer (who by the way easily dodged his multiple projectiles....so why can't kenshiro who is not only fastered but more experienced and stronger). Kenshiro shitstomps.

in fact LMAO at anyone who actually thinks Akuma's gonna win

Originally posted by Hell Lancer
-kenshiro is 100x faster. let me know day akuma can punch 100x within a second
-kenshiro can teleport as well
-kenshiro could lift giagantic boulders with ease without even flinching
-stopped a train with three fingers. nuff said.
-has dodged bullets, arrows, multiple projectiles with ease
-can crush diamands between his fingers
-survived a building falling on his head....in fact he walked right through it.
-knows the inside and outside of the human body to the point that he can literally make them do anything he wants with a mere touch of his fingers. "Akuma, i've touched the point on your body that'll make you fist yourself to death"=akuma fists himself to death

akuma fans....please stop trying. he's losing this one like a mofo. regular akuma was having trouble dealing with ryu in the SF4 trailer (who by the way easily dodged his multiple projectiles....so why can't kenshiro who is not only fastered but more experienced and stronger). Kenshiro shitstomps.

The building feat you're talking about is from the movie which isn't canon.

He also didn't touch that train, he stopped it and crushed a part of it with his fighting spirit/ki/touki

if he stopped it without touching it then all the more impressive really. whats your point?

as for the building feat, there is nothing in that movie that kenshiro can't actually do. he been waltzed through an entire oil tanker exploding, stopped projectiles with his breath (against joker if you don't remember) and almost always fights entire armies on his own. akuma is out of his league...badly.

then there are bits that simply show ken destroying gigantic boulders with a flick of his wrist (toki gaiden), healing deep wounds by muscling up, fighting off poison, teleporting and speed blitzing, using projectiles to hit pressure points from a distance, punching the ground so deep that he exposed an underground water source, walking through fire, dodging bullets and arrows from multiple directions.............and the fact that akuma and ansatsuken moves in general are spoofed from Hokuto no Ken to begin with. to be honest, hokuto no ken is a series comprised of nothing but feats. heck, kenshiro can powerup to the point that he can levitate for some time, absord power from other directions, imitate the style of others with just a glance and then there is musou tensei.

Akuma goes down. HARD.

Originally posted by No End N Site
1. Akuma's moves are designed for killing pretty easily. His normal Shoryuken is made to kill and is said to rip people apart. It really only takes 1 time to get hit by an attack that destroys giant landmasses that can be seen from space. How can someone learn and copy an attack if they die from it 1st (don't mean to sound like an ass). Also, can Kenshiro replicate attacks of this caliber cuz if he can, which I don't remember him being able to, he can beat anyone he comes up against...anyone.

2. I don't really see how any of that proves Kenshiro is better than Gen. But Gen was once the worlds most deadliest assassin who can hang wit the likes of Akuma despite the fact he's in the final stages of Leukemia. In fact, given from what's in the game, he's actually VERY similar to Kenshiro in style. Just not sure if his abilities can match Ken's, prolly not though. He is also as old as Akuma and Kneshiro combined, maybe. He's experienced.

3. You say Akuma wont have a chance to go all out, based on what? I can easily say the reverse in this situation. There is no proof that Kenshiro attacks will have the same affect they have on everyone else, based on the ridiculous feats and abilities of Akuma. Which I've named already. Has Kenshiro ever fought someone like Akuma? Do you know what would happen to the human body if it were on the sea floor then shot hundreds of feet above the same sea he was standing in in just a matter of seconds, lets just say "The Bends" X 100, meaning a human would die instantly and their insides would be turned into goo from that dramatic changes in pressure. I don't remember Ken fightin' someone like that, if he has, refresh my memory.

4. Ken is pretty fast. I wont go assumin' Akuma's real speed cuz he has only a few instances of super speed, most I've mentioned already, so I can see Ken bein' faster than Akuma, but not by enough to really mater. I think these two are at different ends of the martial arts spectrum. Given that fact that I'm not sure Ken's moves will kill Akuma and given the fact that I'm not sure of the reverse, I still think this is a fight that's too close to call.

I'm not ignoring you, it's cold down here and I'm a little tired at the moment. I'll reply later tonight.

Originally posted by Hell Lancer
if he stopped it without touching it then all the more impressive really. whats your point?

as for the building feat, there is nothing in that movie that kenshiro can't actually do. he been waltzed through an entire oil tanker exploding, stopped projectiles with his breath (against joker if you don't remember) and almost always fights entire armies on his own. akuma is out of his league...badly.

then there are bits that simply show ken destroying gigantic boulders with a flick of his wrist (toki gaiden), healing deep wounds by muscling up, fighting off poison, teleporting and speed blitzing, using projectiles to hit pressure points from a distance, punching the ground so deep that he exposed an underground water source, walking through fire, dodging bullets and arrows from multiple directions.............and the fact that akuma and ansatsuken moves in general are spoofed from Hokuto no Ken to begin with. to be honest, hokuto no ken is a series comprised of nothing but feats. heck, kenshiro can powerup to the point that he can levitate for some time, absord power from other directions, imitate the style of others with just a glance and then there is musou tensei.

Akuma goes down. HARD.

My point is that you were wrong and I had to correct you. I wasn't correcting you to discredit Kenshiro or make him seem weaker. I corrected you so everything said about him in this thread is as accurate as possible.

As for the movie, it's noncanon, as for things that were done in the movie that Ken has yet to display in the actual canon story then how about that little rock armor that he had and WORE while destroying the buildings and walking through them? Or the fact that Lin had to save him from getting killed by Raoh?

Honestly, Akuma would have no problem with the armies Kenshiro fights. They aren't really that well trained. If the only thing you got from HNK are feats then you missed a lot.

i misunderstood you. sorry about that.


i was talking about the "feats" in the movie, not the movie itself. not to mention that the jap version of the movie shows the fight as a stalemate as it originally was in the series. ken blowing people's heads off, surving large boulders stuck on his head, crushing someone's skull and causing levitation and breaking apart of buildings etc with a powerup are ALL from the series. my point was simple that if all that is from the series why is the building fall on him bit too much for people to accept? after all, hokuto shinken is an insane art after all.
still i see your point.

as of right now though, Akuma isn't winning. at all.

~Sado

speed: let me know the day akuma can punch 100 times in a second. he's also speed blitzed on several occassions. and he was able to teleport behind joker with his eyes closed.

striking power: island busting is NOT a clear feat. the closest we've come to that is akuma splitting ayres rock which is impressive but nothing ken can't do. ken, very early in his career (pre-musou tensei, pre-ashura) punched the ground and created a chasm big enough and deep enough to allow water from flowing. not to mention that to date, we have not seen kenshiro use his full power into an attack. in Toki Gaiden he shattered a gigantic boulder with (notice!) a flick of his wrist. again, this wasn't even an effort.

raw power: kenshiro can lift gigantic boulders (100x larger than that thing ryu lifted) with ease, break off parts of a mountain, crush iron, crush diamond between his fingers etc etc etc. akuma hasn't displayed any such feat.

endurance: Souther who used a move on kenshiro that was designed to split iron only put a scratch on Kenshiro's body to which kenshiro said that his aura alone can make his body 100x harder than steel. and kenshiro took punches from the likes of Raoh and Kaioh who would destroy akuma. raoh VAPORIZED an entire army of attackers with a projectiles. even on his best day, akuma's shakuunetsu hadouken can only burn people badly. vaporizing>immolation.
need more proof?

then there's musou tensei which means his opponent cannot even touch him but he can, the fact that kenshiro can mimic anything he sees with perfection (he watched, he didn't even fight, yuuda creating water based projectiles at Rei, and was able to mimic it to such an extent that he was able to do them on land and do them so well that even someone like Shuu who was much stronger than Yuuda, was unable to do anything against), the fact that he can touch akuma at any point on the body and kill him and when all this isn't bad enough, Kenshiro doesn't even need to touch him. he can do that through projectiles too.


oh and lastly, kenshiro can powerup to such an extent (and again, this is pre-musou tensei and pre-ashura) that he was able to levitate for long periods of time while all around him buildings and the ground itself started shattering>>anything akuma has ever done

seriously, just give it up :/

kenshiro speed feats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi38Q5_79Q0

kenshiro speed feats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi38Q5_79Q0

more kenshiro speed feats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPVaWN6PvfA

kenshiro durability feats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZW1Gl_BayI&feature=related

more durability feats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWv9c-K6QiA&feature=related

kenshiro strength feats (notice how easily he cuts the giant iron ball in half, and put that against "ripping people in half with shoryuken, which is not even true. notice also that at 7:50 he blew vaporized the guy with just the power up...and honestly, at 8:50 just pwns big time):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnuNWKudq0s&feature=related

and lastly, some of the movie feats. they are not non-canon given that ken barely does anything in the movie that he hasn't done in the anime or manga itself:
http://www.youtube.com/user/decrepido#p/u/3/-Q_osaRLRfA

and here is a VERY small list of Raoh's feats, the guy kenshiro went toe-to-toe with on 3 separate occassions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6w86jtwc8

So the movie is canon to the whole story? Then that means that Kenshiro killed Shin twice and he never used his rock armor ever again. I wonder why he didn't use it against Souther and how one moment he has a beard but during that same exact moment in time he doesn't have a beard. The movie isn't canon, Ken wins but that movie isn't canon.

Can't believe I missed this......

Akuma is a VG character, not of anime origin.

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