Originally posted by NemeBro
1. Yes, Superman weighs about 244 pounds last time I checked. I can lift that. Hell, I could throw that to the ground. I am not stronger than Superman however, nowhere near. Superman would in a fight yes, but my point is that you do not have to be stronger than someone to throw them.
I don't know what 244 pounds are, we don't have that kind of weight in Argentina (Yes, I am from Argentina), if you could tell me by 'Kg' (Kilograms), that would be better. It doesn't matter anyway.
I think you're missing the point.
Why you bring Superman to reality? May I know that? Of course you aren't stronger than Superman, he's super-human, you sir, is not.
You wouldn't throw him in a fight, that's a joke. Unless he lets you, but I guess he wouldn't in a fight. All of this is irrelevant though.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, Seymour did not, he stopped its charge and pushed it back.
We don't see that monster charging at Seymour at all, we see him, however, trying to advance and Seymour is just holding it, but for how long?
He pushed it after that.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Try to push a car when it is not in drive.
Normal people from OUR world can do that.
Try punching someone in the stomach and make that person fly through the air. And again... Dude, you are comparing them to US.
Originally posted by NemeBro
He's a mage? So ****ing what? Being a mage does not make him physically weak clownshoes. Oh? We do not see Vayne's physical strength?
I never said that makes him physically weak. I said it doesn't make him super-human. However, being a Mage means he wouldn't fight monsters with his fists, secondly it means he would lose if he tries, and thirdly, it means he's owned by any martial artist inside Final Fantasy Universe.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh? We do not see Vayne's physical strength? Then please stfu about him being superhuman then?
We know his capabilities are beyond any Judge and human though. We can't say the same about Seymour nor Vaan. On top of that, Super-human does not only consists in physical strength alone, I suppose you should know this. If it does, then Bruce Lee is super-human. But nope, he isn't.
Originally posted by NemeBro
The Sinspawn is the size of an elephant, to support its own weight it would have to have superhuman strength, to move and fight it would need to be even stronger. So yeah, gtfo with that shit. Actually, show me this scene of Vaan throwing Vayne please.
But Seymour didn't picked up that monster, that's the difference. Again you are using us and comparing us to them, that won't work, I'm afraid. Seymour fought the monster with Magic, not with strength. He's a Mage, remember? The video is in the Tidus Vs. Vaan thread, but here, the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnMmAwF24Tk&feature=player_embedded
Skip to: 6:30
Originally posted by NemeBro
2. Actually it really does, your incompetence is helping my case a great deal.
I'm afraid that insulting me it does not help Seymour it just help you to look bad. Are you angry...? Got something against me? Why?
Originally posted by NemeBro
We know that normal FFX characters are helpless when faced with even the smallest of monsters. no expression Facts are, most FF characters are, you guessed it, just as feeble as humans in our world. So yes, even by their own standards Seymour is superhuman. no expression Superhuman means basically above human, if any aspect of him is above human, then he is superhuman.
Normal people in Final Fantasy can defeat monsters though.
You are also helpless if you face Bruce Lee or Mariusz Pudzianowski.
I hope that helps. Plus... You could say Seymour's forms are above humans, thus super-human, but regular Seymour isn't super-human as regular Vayne isn't super-human either.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Zangan may be, we do not know and probably never will. Nothing to back it up? Have you ever seen a normal human do anything Tifa did in AC? Hell, have you seen normal humans in FFVII do what she did? Yes, she is in fact superhuman. You're right, she was not up to par with Loz, though not because she was a "normal human." If normal humans are capable of that in the FFVIIverse, then why don't they solve their own problems? Your argument, much like yourself, is a giant clownshoe.
Zangan isn't. No bro, Tifa isn't super-human, Loz is super-human. She wasn't on par with Loz because Loz IS SUPER-HUMAN. Tifa is not. I don't understand why you are having problems to understand this. We can say Tifa is more skilled than Loz, but she isn't stronger than him. Tifa trained to become what she is, she is capable of doing what she does because she trained for it, not all the humans from the Final Fantasy VII Universe are martial fighters like she is. You can't train to become super-human. You can't suggest Tifa is super-human without any reason. Look at Bruce Lee for a moment, he's considered the best martial fighter in the world, there are millions of martial fighters in the world, but none of them are like Bruce Lee. We know Bruce Lee isn't/wasn't super-human, he trained to be like he was. He's just a very strong human, just like Tifa in the Final Fantasy universe. But not super-human.
Originally posted by NemeBro
No, he couldn't. no expression "Normal people" challenged Bruce Lee to fights all the time, none are dead, not even the one who broke into his house to fight him who he ended up giving a full-force roundhouse kick to the temple. Also, physically, Bruce Lee was not that strong either. no expression Alot of great fighters are not particularly physically powerful, too much muscle can be a hindrance upon their fighting abilities. And... Bruce Lee is not even that a great fighter, he was a guy who made movies, so why are you bringing up him? And are you trying to imply Tifa and Bruce Lee are around the same level lolz?
Martial fighters can deal mortal blows, they can kill you if they hits you in determined parts of your body or if they uses determined skills. If you didn't know this, then you are an ignorant, no offense. Bruce Lee was not physically strong? He wasn't a great fighter? Are you joking or something? Being actor has nothing to do with his skills. No, I'm not saying Tifa and Bruce Lee are in the same level, you're losing it by asking that. I'm giving you a simple example of why Tifa isn't super-human, she's just a strong, very strong human.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Is Vaan a reasonably skilled fighter? If so, would that not enable him to grapple and throw a physically superior opponent? The answer is yes, it would. But seriously, show me the ****ing scene.
Of course, at least more skilled than Seymour who is (by the way) a Mage, not a fighter. Or you're trying to say that Seymour is like Tifa? Lol. The video is above.
Originally posted by NemeBro
4. Your argument, you know, the really shitty one?
The shitty one? Oh, you mean the one that says:'diz guado dude iz superhuman cuz da rest of dat characters hasn't showed strength featzz, still theres nuthign 2 suggest hes a superhuman i call it superhuman cuz iwant 2!?'
Originally posted by NemeBro
Yes, he is. Are you trolling me? I find it hard to believe you are actually this thick.
He is what? And who? Seriously, at what are you replying to?
About who you're talking about?
Originally posted by NemeBro
"Dealing" with me. I have handled you like I handle myself on lonely nights son.
HEZ SUPERHUMAN CUZ I SAY SO!!!
Lol, relax, don't take this topic so serious.
Originally posted by NemeBro
There is no evidence of anyone being stronger than Seymour is in FFX, so we cannot assume that they are, and therefore must assume Seymour is stronger.
Lmao. I didn't said they are, you are saying they aren't. The burden of proof is in you. And Vaan is stronger than all the Final Fantasy XII Universe characters because of a cutscene? Stop being ridiculous.
Originally posted by NemeBro
It is kind of the same reason why I think Superman is stronger than a Servbot. Servbot has no physical strength feats, Superman has really good ones, so it is safest to assume Superman is stronger
This has nothing to do with anything. And you hardly makes any sense with your analogies.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I did not say they cannot be, that actually would be a fallacy, I am saying that because Seymour's feats are superior, we must assume he is stronger. Vaan may be stronger, I do not know, FFXII is far to ghey for me to care.
But how do you know his feats are superior than all of the Final Fantasy X characters? From where you drawn this vague, fallacious and without any basis conclusion? Aren't you overrating Seymour so much?
Originally posted by Tac
People in Anime and Video games tend to do Super human stunts WITHOUT being super human. Did you think that article worked in your favor?
He even gave Batman as an example, a pretty good one too. Batman isn't super human, but he can do lots of "super human" stuff.
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn50/TheFulMetalAlchemist/KurosakiIchigo7.jpg