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I would say Drakon.

Kingpin has lost to Daredevil, and Drakon's got higher stats than Matt, some very skilled fighters can barely see Drakon move. Plus he's amazingly strong and tough for his size.

kingpin. hes also really fast and amazingly strong, and ridiculously tough

Originally posted by Q99
I would say Drakon.

Kingpin has lost to Daredevil, and Drakon's got higher stats than Matt, some very skilled fighters can barely see Drakon move. Plus he's amazingly strong and tough for his size.

Yeah, I don't think Drakon has a bad showing yet. He gets my vote, but he's know he was in a fight.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
kingpin. hes also really fast and amazingly strong, and ridiculously tough

He's really fast as in 'fast as a skilled human who's a lot smaller'.

Drakon is fast in terms of 'Oh look Roy Harper just got his throat slit without noticing and Connor Hawke can *barely* react in the time it takes for Drakon to cover a dozen feet'.

Not the same level.

then kingpin beats him with his brains. he uses his insane damage soak and the the fact that he looks like hes as slow as most people his size. he plays possum and once he gets a hold of him, its all over

Playing possible is the best tactic, yea, but I'm not sure if he'll be able to get a win before Drakon catches on.