I have an idea of a great innovative project about music, cinema and games.

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MAR91NAL

inimalist
how many people do you have on staff?

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by inimalist
how many people do you have on staff?
No one else. smile It's on idea level now.

ADarksideJedi
Interesting Topic.

Digi
Originally posted by MAR91NAL
No one else. smile It's on idea level now.

So. I can take it and use it for my own?

Mine will have cat pictures though. Your website's screwed.

Realistically, the problem is marketing. A thousand awesome website ideas exist and get 10 hits a day, because the ones with the marketing dollars dominate the public consciousness. There's your challenge, not in the concept itself (which is fine, and would probably appeal to a certain demographic).

inimalist
Originally posted by MAR91NAL
No one else. smile It's on idea level now.

if you can figure out money and staff, just do it

those issues will be much more insurmountable than just getting hits. If it is as useful and up-to-date as you intend, it should fill a void that is generally missing.

However, especially in terms of music, I can't see that being more useful than the niche sites that cater to specific genres. In the realm of UK Hardcore Techno there are many releases each week, though it is a very small genre in the scheme of things. You would need incredibly knowledgeable staff to catch all the releases in most genres that people are interested in, especially if you want to be equally relevant as a site like discogs.

but ya, you wont be able to do this alone.

Bardock42
Originally posted by Digi
So. I can take it and use it for my own?

Mine will have cat pictures though. Your website's screwed.

Realistically, the problem is marketing. A thousand awesome website ideas exist and get 10 hits a day, because the ones with the marketing dollars dominate the public consciousness. There's your challenge, not in the concept itself (which is fine, and would probably appeal to a certain demographic).

Not just marketing, execution is a big problem too. Like, he might not even be able to pull it off.

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by Digi
So. I can take it and use it for my own?

Mine will have cat pictures though. Your website's screwed.

big grin No one will use filtering and customization in the site with cats, because they are all cool. cool
If serious, marketing is problem for some good ideas, I agree with you. But I have good business model too, it's not secret. It will be partnership with online distributors, like amazon. How do you thunk about it?

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by inimalist

However, especially in terms of music, I can't see that being more useful than the niche sites that cater to specific genres.
Sometimes it's quite so. But you need one site for one music genre, one for another, etc. Plus separate site for movie, games, software and books. My project combine all it and don't give any unnecessary word. You wasting no time with it.
Originally posted by inimalist

You would need incredibly knowledgeable staff to catch all the releases in most genres that people are interested in, especially if you want to be equally relevant as a site like discogs.
You right, but I hope, as project become popular, most of news will be publish by users.

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by Bardock42
Not just marketing, execution is a big problem too. Like, he might not even be able to pull it off.
It really problem. But I'm not going to open such a project myself. I mean, it's possible only with big investment and professional stuff. I will come to them and say "You see, guys all over the net think it's useful". And they chuck one's hand in. smile

Bardock42
I actually had a somewhat similar idea, though not from the point you are coming at it. Mine comes from me really liking Hacker News (news.ycombinator.com), and I thought that this great algorithm for sorting and the comunnity standards that find content (it's not the first to do it (reddit, digg, etc.), but it's the best) could be applied to other areas, sort of like Wikia to Wiki. Like Game News, Japan News, Physics News, etc.

Know what I'm sayin'?

Digi
Originally posted by MAR91NAL
big grin No one will use filtering and customization in the site with cats, because they are all cool. cool
If serious, marketing is problem for some good ideas, I agree with you. But I have good business model too, it's not secret. It will be partnership with online distributors, like amazon. How do you thunk about it?

I really can't comment. I've made full-scale marketing proposals involving websites and other media, and a lot more is involved than just saying you'll have partnerships with distributors. In fact, it's probably not something you'd be able to disseminate easily in an online forum, without going into details far too mundane to hold a conversation here. I'm also working with a staff who's helping me, though, and we have the budget that comes with a decent-sized organization, so even going into details on it would be comparing apples and oranges. Very little would be directly applicable to your circumstance and approach.

I wish you luck though, it sounds like there's a plan here. You should really just make the site. No one's going to be able to offer more than anecdotes and encouragement, and certainly not the kind of specific business advice you'd need to actually gain something from this.

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by Bardock42
I actually had a somewhat similar idea, though not from the point you are coming at it. Mine comes from me really liking Hacker News (news.ycombinator.com), and I thought that this great algorithm for sorting and the comunnity standards that find content (it's not the first to do it (reddit, digg, etc.), but it's the best) could be applied to other areas, sort of like Wikia to Wiki. Like Game News, Japan News, Physics News, etc.
Know what I'm sayin'?
I think I understand you. You talking about "social news". Once I think about project based on such technique, it's about people's problem with their rights, about corruption etc. It can be useful especially in my country (Russia). But it can be only non-profit project, so I decide first of all help myself, and then help others. smile

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by Digi
I wish you luck though, it sounds like there's a plan here. You should really just make the site. No one's going to be able to offer more than anecdotes and encouragement, and certainly not the kind of specific business advice you'd need to actually gain something from this.
Thank you for good word. I create this thread for getting response about only idea, because this forum about movies and my project have partly similar auditory. I have discussed technical aspects on other forums, with another peoples, etc. I haven't goal to get some business or financial advices here. Only yours opinion as movie-lovers. If you have some ideas about ways of realization - great, let's talk about. But I understand that this forum not specialized for it.

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by Digi
I really can't comment. I've made full-scale marketing proposals involving websites and other media, and a lot more is involved than just saying you'll have partnerships with distributors. In fact, it's probably not something you'd be able to disseminate easily in an online forum, without going into details far too mundane to hold a conversation here. I'm also working with a staff who's helping me, though, and we have the budget that comes with a decent-sized organization, so even going into details on it would be comparing apples and oranges. Very little would be directly applicable to your circumstance and approach.

If honestly, I don't sure that understand you correctly... You mean if I have partnerships already? Of cause, no. It just theory, model about how my site can do business. Or you mean, that you have good experience in such things and sure that getting money this way too hard? If so, I really need your advice. Because I don't see another business models, that not caused conflict with my conscience. smile

Digi
It's just, you're not just going to make a website and instantly be able to partner with Amazon. You need the financial backing or a very populated site to even approach them, or anyone of their caliber.

Your best bet is to learn up on search engine methodology. There's tricks for getting yourself to the top of searches in specific categories to cater to the demographic you want to attract to your site. That's the only way you're going to get a reasonable number of hits without any prior affiliations. Update content voraciously and you'll slowly gather a following. Then you might be able to rake in some advertising dollars if you have steady enough traffic and sell yourself to advertisers correctly. But anyone who is making a living off of a personal website is generating content constantly and gets hundreds of thousands of hits per day. It's a long, slow climb.

The website design and interface itself is also huge, but I assume you have the requisite programming skills to be considering this.

The Mark Zuckerberg's of the world aren't unique in terms of idea generation. There's just very few with the technical and business acumen and work ethic to follow through on such ideas.

inimalist
Originally posted by Digi
The Mark Zuckerberg's of the world aren't unique in terms of idea generation. There's just very few with the technical and business acumen and work ethic to follow through on such ideas.

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but about everything in the world

MAR91NAL
Originally posted by Digi

Now I understand you. Of cause first goal is to make really useful site, slowly and hard get loyal auditory and then, when project will grown up, begin make it commercial. And the fact is I'm not IT-man. I feel myself entrepreneur, not specialist. But I sure that if someday my project (that or one another) will start, I will make it thoroughly and well.

Digi
Originally posted by inimalist
this

but about everything in the world

lol

Originally posted by MAR91NAL
Now I understand you. Of cause first goal is to make really useful site, slowly and hard get loyal auditory and then, when project will grown up, begin make it commercial. And the fact is I'm not IT-man. I feel myself entrepreneur, not specialist. But I sure that if someday my project (that or one another) will start, I will make it thoroughly and well.

Welp. Good luck. There's not much more help I can be without repeating myself.

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