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Question I have an idea of a great innovative project about music, cinema and games.

I offer you to participate in the poll following the results of which it depends to a great extent whether the described internet resource for lovers of music, cinema and games of any type will be created or not.
Sorry for writing a lot here. But I hope you will cope with it.

There is a lot of information. It has always been a problem for me! It is difficult to read all the news about my favorite music groups, their specific releases, filmmakers which are interesting to, as well as their projects, some of the computer games, new versions of software people need. I think there are two methods of solving this problem:
Аwink Read several topical news web-sites every day;
B) Make a list of interesting filmmakers and musicians and – again! – Every day look through topics dedicated to them on a topical forum.
In both cases people waste too much time. One has to digest a lot of unnecessary information. That is of course if you, just like me, are not on a specific forum all day long.
So, when I started thinking about how I can settle this problem, this is what I found. There are several internet services in the field of music which make it possible to select groups which I like or specific releases and receive e-mail notifications. This makes a music fan’s life considerably easier. But it is still far from being ideal, because all albums leak to the net before they have been released. Now all albums leak to the net one week before their release. And – what is more – I have not found similar services in the fields of cinema, games, software and books.

So this is what I have found.
Let us imagine a website on which there is ALL news related to ALL objects of cultural and entertainment topics. An “object” is the key term of the project. Genres and types, releases, associations, specific performers – anything – will be understood as “objects”.
However, it is not just a new news website. These are its 10 key advantages, or strong points:
1. The goal of the project is to publish maximal amount of news and as soon as possible. Editors hired for that purpose will work on it. Enthusiastic users will join and, I hope, replace them later.
2. Each piece of news is as short as possible. It’s concise, for instance: “A new single… of the group… was released”, “A new album … by musician… has been completed”, “A trailer of the movie …. has been released”, “… will star in the film….”, “A leakage of the single … by girl singer …”, “A version ….of the program… has been released” etc. With that, all the news will be represented as a neat list. A link to the source will be attached to each piece of news.
3. You may filter and sort the news feed as you wish. For instance, you enter names of musicians which you are interested in (or the site scans the folder “Music” of your hard disc) and you see news related only to those people. Or you enter types of news which you want to see, for instance, “release of the album” and you will see the list of all music albums released or to be released. You may indicate the genre, a specific period, anything at all. If you want to learn which films have appeared on the Blu-Ray disks over the last month – here you are! If you want to see which other films are going to appear within the nearest month – just one mouse-click and it is ready! Absolutely any parameter can be set!
4. You may keep the news feed so that next time you don’t do all the settings again. You may keep more than one news feed. And open them with one click. Besides, you may share the news feed so that everyone has access to it: your friends will know what is interesting to you.
5. You can receive notifications about news in your newsline to your e-mail or as an rss-channel.
6. As I have already said you may add news to the site. However, if you are a newcomer, moderation of your news is obligatory to make sure there is no spam.
7. The site contains preferences for each user. This allows the following:
A) Find new friends with similar hobbies and tastes;
B) Receive recommendations as to objects that you may like.
8. You may use the service via an application for your iPhone, iPad or Android.
9. There is a link to a wiki-similar encyclopedia on the site. This means you may receive or add, at your disposal, information on any object.
10. The web-site will be absolutely legal. Links to “pirate” content are prohibited. However, there will be such news as “A leakage of the album “…” It is not against the law. There will be no links.

If you haven’t got the idea, please ask questions. I will be glad to answer. The site has not been created yet. I do not guarantee that it will appear in the nearest future. However, your opinion really matters. Chances are that it will happen. If it seems important and interesting to you please tell your friends about this poll. Ask them to express their opinions. It is important for me to know whether such a web-site would be popular.

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how many people do you have on staff?


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how many people do you have on staff?

No one else. smile It's on idea level now.

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Interesting Topic.


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Originally posted by MAR91NAL
No one else. smile It's on idea level now.


So. I can take it and use it for my own?

Mine will have cat pictures though. Your website's screwed.

Realistically, the problem is marketing. A thousand awesome website ideas exist and get 10 hits a day, because the ones with the marketing dollars dominate the public consciousness. There's your challenge, not in the concept itself (which is fine, and would probably appeal to a certain demographic).


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No one else. smile It's on idea level now.


if you can figure out money and staff, just do it

those issues will be much more insurmountable than just getting hits. If it is as useful and up-to-date as you intend, it should fill a void that is generally missing.

However, especially in terms of music, I can't see that being more useful than the niche sites that cater to specific genres. In the realm of UK Hardcore Techno there are many releases each week, though it is a very small genre in the scheme of things. You would need incredibly knowledgeable staff to catch all the releases in most genres that people are interested in, especially if you want to be equally relevant as a site like discogs.

but ya, you wont be able to do this alone.


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Originally posted by Digi
So. I can take it and use it for my own?

Mine will have cat pictures though. Your website's screwed.

Realistically, the problem is marketing. A thousand awesome website ideas exist and get 10 hits a day, because the ones with the marketing dollars dominate the public consciousness. There's your challenge, not in the concept itself (which is fine, and would probably appeal to a certain demographic).


Not just marketing, execution is a big problem too. Like, he might not even be able to pull it off.


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So. I can take it and use it for my own?

Mine will have cat pictures though. Your website's screwed.

big grin No one will use filtering and customization in the site with cats, because they are all cool. cool
If serious, marketing is problem for some good ideas, I agree with you. But I have good business model too, it's not secret. It will be partnership with online distributors, like amazon. How do you thunk about it?

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However, especially in terms of music, I can't see that being more useful than the niche sites that cater to specific genres.

Sometimes it's quite so. But you need one site for one music genre, one for another, etc. Plus separate site for movie, games, software and books. My project combine all it and don't give any unnecessary word. You wasting no time with it.
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You would need incredibly knowledgeable staff to catch all the releases in most genres that people are interested in, especially if you want to be equally relevant as a site like discogs.

You right, but I hope, as project become popular, most of news will be publish by users.

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Not just marketing, execution is a big problem too. Like, he might not even be able to pull it off.

It really problem. But I'm not going to open such a project myself. I mean, it's possible only with big investment and professional stuff. I will come to them and say "You see, guys all over the net think it's useful". And they chuck one's hand in. smile

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I actually had a somewhat similar idea, though not from the point you are coming at it. Mine comes from me really liking Hacker News (news.ycombinator.com), and I thought that this great algorithm for sorting and the comunnity standards that find content (it's not the first to do it (reddit, digg, etc.), but it's the best) could be applied to other areas, sort of like Wikia to Wiki. Like Game News, Japan News, Physics News, etc.

Know what I'm sayin'?


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big grin No one will use filtering and customization in the site with cats, because they are all cool. cool
If serious, marketing is problem for some good ideas, I agree with you. But I have good business model too, it's not secret. It will be partnership with online distributors, like amazon. How do you thunk about it?


I really can't comment. I've made full-scale marketing proposals involving websites and other media, and a lot more is involved than just saying you'll have partnerships with distributors. In fact, it's probably not something you'd be able to disseminate easily in an online forum, without going into details far too mundane to hold a conversation here. I'm also working with a staff who's helping me, though, and we have the budget that comes with a decent-sized organization, so even going into details on it would be comparing apples and oranges. Very little would be directly applicable to your circumstance and approach.

I wish you luck though, it sounds like there's a plan here. You should really just make the site. No one's going to be able to offer more than anecdotes and encouragement, and certainly not the kind of specific business advice you'd need to actually gain something from this.


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I actually had a somewhat similar idea, though not from the point you are coming at it. Mine comes from me really liking Hacker News (news.ycombinator.com), and I thought that this great algorithm for sorting and the comunnity standards that find content (it's not the first to do it (reddit, digg, etc.), but it's the best) could be applied to other areas, sort of like Wikia to Wiki. Like Game News, Japan News, Physics News, etc.
Know what I'm sayin'?

I think I understand you. You talking about "social news". Once I think about project based on such technique, it's about people's problem with their rights, about corruption etc. It can be useful especially in my country (Russia). But it can be only non-profit project, so I decide first of all help myself, and then help others. smile

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I wish you luck though, it sounds like there's a plan here. You should really just make the site. No one's going to be able to offer more than anecdotes and encouragement, and certainly not the kind of specific business advice you'd need to actually gain something from this.

Thank you for good word. I create this thread for getting response about only idea, because this forum about movies and my project have partly similar auditory. I have discussed technical aspects on other forums, with another peoples, etc. I haven't goal to get some business or financial advices here. Only yours opinion as movie-lovers. If you have some ideas about ways of realization - great, let's talk about. But I understand that this forum not specialized for it.

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I really can't comment. I've made full-scale marketing proposals involving websites and other media, and a lot more is involved than just saying you'll have partnerships with distributors. In fact, it's probably not something you'd be able to disseminate easily in an online forum, without going into details far too mundane to hold a conversation here. I'm also working with a staff who's helping me, though, and we have the budget that comes with a decent-sized organization, so even going into details on it would be comparing apples and oranges. Very little would be directly applicable to your circumstance and approach.

If honestly, I don't sure that understand you correctly... You mean if I have partnerships already? Of cause, no. It just theory, model about how my site can do business. Or you mean, that you have good experience in such things and sure that getting money this way too hard? If so, I really need your advice. Because I don't see another business models, that not caused conflict with my conscience. smile

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It's just, you're not just going to make a website and instantly be able to partner with Amazon. You need the financial backing or a very populated site to even approach them, or anyone of their caliber.

Your best bet is to learn up on search engine methodology. There's tricks for getting yourself to the top of searches in specific categories to cater to the demographic you want to attract to your site. That's the only way you're going to get a reasonable number of hits without any prior affiliations. Update content voraciously and you'll slowly gather a following. Then you might be able to rake in some advertising dollars if you have steady enough traffic and sell yourself to advertisers correctly. But anyone who is making a living off of a personal website is generating content constantly and gets hundreds of thousands of hits per day. It's a long, slow climb.

The website design and interface itself is also huge, but I assume you have the requisite programming skills to be considering this.

The Mark Zuckerberg's of the world aren't unique in terms of idea generation. There's just very few with the technical and business acumen and work ethic to follow through on such ideas.


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The Mark Zuckerberg's of the world aren't unique in terms of idea generation. There's just very few with the technical and business acumen and work ethic to follow through on such ideas.


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but about everything in the world


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Now I understand you. Of cause first goal is to make really useful site, slowly and hard get loyal auditory and then, when project will grown up, begin make it commercial. And the fact is I'm not IT-man. I feel myself entrepreneur, not specialist. But I sure that if someday my project (that or one another) will start, I will make it thoroughly and well.

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this

but about everything in the world


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Now I understand you. Of cause first goal is to make really useful site, slowly and hard get loyal auditory and then, when project will grown up, begin make it commercial. And the fact is I'm not IT-man. I feel myself entrepreneur, not specialist. But I sure that if someday my project (that or one another) will start, I will make it thoroughly and well.


Welp. Good luck. There's not much more help I can be without repeating myself.


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