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they fight in the same open field kimmy fought in

Kimimaro wins and easily.

Sasuke does not have amaterasu, yet. Kimimaro also isn't stupid enough to fall for eye-based genjtsu and his Taijutsu is flawless.

If this is a healthy Kimimaro, he would walk all over Sasuke.

But I give this to Kimimaro 6 out of 10 fights.


Sasuke's only hope of winning is using his lightning infused blade against Kimimaro's bones. That's a very bad choice as any Taijutsu combat would be a bad idea against Kimimaro.



Kimimaro, sick as ****, still had a 4.5 in stamina. WTF? His speed was till a 4 or something. Double wtf? This guy must have been a beast before he became ill. It should be no wonder that Oro wanted him as his vessel (it even sounds homo...).

I am pretty sure it was stated somewhere that Kimimaro nearly was on par with Orochimaru before his illness ( ).

But yeah he wins, for the same reasons you said.

Sasuke did have kirin, and his genjutsu is something of an advantage (avoiding a glance is hard, and in any case makes it so the opponent has to pay a bit less attention to what you're doing).

Personally I think it's a close fight, with a large part of the result dependent on how effective his lightning blades are against bone.

I can't see him realistically pulling Kirin out to be honest, and are we positive he had it at the beginning of Part II?

That said, is Bone based off of Earth Release?

Originally posted by NemeBro
I can't see him realistically pulling Kirin out to be honest, and are we positive he had it at the beginning of Part II?

Yes. He looked like he was going to use it against Naruto before Orochimaru stopped him, remember? Same hand-gesture he used later when he did use it against Itachi.




No indication. Still, I wouldn't think it'd act super differently.

Originally posted by Q99
Yes. He looked like he was going to use it against Naruto before Orochimaru stopped him, remember? Same hand-gesture he used later when he did use it against Itachi.
The hand gesture doesn't really matter, as Sasuke can only use kirin under very specific conditions. He needs the massive heat and static electricity aura givien off by Amaterasu and his fire dragon techniques. So in that scene with Naruto and Sakura, there's no way he could have used kirin anyway.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
The hand gesture doesn't really matter, as Sasuke can only use kirin under very specific conditions. He needs the massive heat and static electricity aura givien off by Amaterasu and his fire dragon techniques. So in that scene with Naruto and Sakura, there's no way he could have used kirin anyway.

Note, that's how he can do it despite being very low on chakra.


With Naruto and the gang, he was completely fresh. He may be able to manage anyway (perhaps not quite as powerful, but still, he has a lot of chakra to put into an attack).

Do you have any substantiation to support that idea? If he could use kirin all willy nilly as long as he's got the chakra for it, that would have been extremely handy when fighting a certain flying enemy, Deidera, who came quite close multiple times to killing Sasuke throughout their fight.

That was probably his trump card in the fight with Deidara. He was probably going to use it on Team Kakashi, albeit probably a weaker version of it.

Actually, start of part 2 Sasuke fluctuates in power imo.

http://i4-img3.mangachapter.net/746/6929/96379_746.jpg

I still have no idea what he did here.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Do you have any substantiation to support that idea?

He used a hand gesture only associated with Kirin and Orochimaru called it a that jutsu.

Only big stuff gets called that jutsu.



Keep in mind I'm not saying it's easy or anything. Just that at a full tank he can use it.

If he used it against Deidara and missed, or got bombed mid-jutsu (Deidara did keep the pressure on him, while Team 7 was low on ranged attacks and Sasuke had Oro with him for protection), he'd be screwed.

Based purely on what we saw during his fight with the new team Kakashi, Sasuke gets steamrolled.

He didn't demonstrate much genjutsu except that one on Sai and that not taking down Kimimaro.

He'll end up impaled sooner than later.

Perhaps Great Dragon Fire?

He does have big blasty fire as well as lightning.


Originally posted by Damborgson
Based purely on what we saw during his fight with the new team Kakashi, Sasuke gets steamrolled.

He didn't demonstrate much genjutsu except that one on Sai and that not taking down Kimimaro.

He did use several genjutsu not much later against Deidara.

If it was the fire that did that, I see no reason he couldn't use that to hurt Kimmimaro badly. Worse come to worse, you can set fire to the area and Kirin. And of course there is genjutsu.

Start-of P2 Sasuke is a very powerful ranged fighter when you get down to it- while he's strong in melee, his most destructive jutsu are at range.

Originally posted by Q99
Perhaps Great Dragon Fire?

He does have big blasty fire as well as lightning.




He did use several genjutsu not much later against Deidara.

From the beginning of part 2 though I assumed he was limiting it to the showing of Sasuke vs New Team Kakashi. If we get to use showings after that then yeah Sasuke should take it.

Originally posted by Damborgson
From the beginning of part 2 though I assumed he was limiting it to the showing of Sasuke vs New Team Kakashi. If we get to use showings after that then yeah Sasuke should take it.

His powers at around that point, but there's no reason for any of his fire or lightning moves to have changed between them and the next few fights.

Beginning of part 2 just means no snakes (and no skin-shed regen!), no mangekyo.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
That was probably his trump card in the fight with Deidara. He was probably going to use it on Team Kakashi, albeit probably a weaker version of it.

Actually, start of part 2 Sasuke fluctuates in power imo.

http://i4-img3.mangachapter.net/746/6929/96379_746.jpg

I still have no idea what he did here.
He was suggested to be much stronger than 3-tailed Naruto. vin


Anyway, Sasuke wins this. Massive Bone-field is the only thing that Kimimaro could win with IMO.

Aren't we talking about the same Kimimaro that had trouble with Lee? I think Sasuke would probably pull out the W with some form of weak genjutsu/chidori strike. Not to mention fireballs and his winged beast form that amps his skills considerably.

Originally posted by socool8520
Aren't we talking about the same Kimimaro that had trouble with Lee?

Lee did pretty much nothing to him when he was in his base form.

With Curse Seal 2 on, Kimimaro almost killed Lee and Gaara at the same time.

Sasuke from that time period would be killed by Kimmimaru...

His only hope would be genjutsu...