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I checked and couldnt find a thread on this. I enjoyed Slotts take on pym in Mighty Avengers (except Pym calling himself the wasp) and like the relationship with Tigra in Avengers Academy. I want to know your thoughts on if Pym can be written without constant references to the abuse incident? I can't help but dread that the moment Janet comes back hes going to chase after her and end up with writers playing off the situation again and again.

Of course he can be written well without hanging on to the Janet incident. Nobody seems to remember the times Reed has slapped Sue or other heroes, whether under duress, mental illness, or mind control, hit their significant other. Pym just has haters, both in the form of readers and writers.

Slott and Gage have both written Pym as the guy he should be.

Pretty much what Jake said. The character can and has been written well over the years... People just need to not let twats like Bendis near him.

2 years of deveelopment down the drain cos of that ****.

Pym has been decent for a few years now, I hope they make him a bit more crazy in the years to come, because his craziness is awesome.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Of course he can be written well without hanging on to the Janet incident. Nobody seems to remember the times Reed has slapped Sue or other heroes, whether under duress, mental illness, or mind control, hit their significant other. Pym just has haters, both in the form of readers and writers.

Slott and Gage have both written Pym as the guy he should be. That just annoys me. Hes one of the rare characters where its generally ok to call him a wife beater yet many of the murderers are accepted because they are trying to redeem themself lol.

I've enjoyed Pym threw out the years especially in his YellowJacket persona..


he be written well, but it depends on the writer

I do like Pym's eccentric style of science, but I do hope he doesn't revert to batshit insane or anything. He's moved on from Janet's death and their troubled relationship. He's accepted his role in Ultron's creation. He's moved on from his feelings of insignificance to the other founding Avengers and is a capable leader on his own. Pym is awesome, no doubt about it. Though, personally, I would have wished he stayed as the Wasp as he used more cool gadgets and the costume was awesome.

I think my favorite moment in recent history was Karnak examining Pym and noting how while he still had plenty of weaknesses, his mental ones were significantly reduced than last time. I also lol'd when Hazmat claimed Pym was the craziest Avenger and he corrected her by stating Sentry was in a humorous fashion.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I do like Pym's eccentric style of science, but I do hope he doesn't revert to batshit insane or anything. He's moved on from Janet's death and their troubled relationship. He's accepted his role in Ultron's creation. He's moved on from his feelings of insignificance to the other founding Avengers and is a capable leader on his own. Pym is awesome, no doubt about it. Though, personally, I would have wished he stayed as the Wasp as he used more cool gadgets and the costume was awesome.

I think my favorite moment in recent history was Karnak examining Pym and noting how while he still had plenty of weaknesses, his mental ones were significantly reduced than last time. I also lol'd when Hazmat claimed Pym was the craziest Avenger and he corrected her by stating Sentry was in a humorous fashion. I also liked the wasp costume and powers pym had but it seemed a little creepy that he took her name considering what the other heroes think of him .

It made perfect sense, though.

All these years, Pym was trying to find his own identity, but then decides to honor Janet by taking her codename. Of course to his peers, it makes him look crazier, but that's the thing; Pym is looked down upon in-universe as a second rate scientist as opposed to Reed and Tony and an unhinged one at that. Pym's come back was just as much for readers as it was for the characters themselves to understand just how far Pym came.

If he starts using more gadgets as Giant-Man, though, I'll be happy. His Toolbot thing was rad.

Man, I just realized Pym is the Aquaman of the Avengers

Originally posted by Bentley
Man, I just realized Pym is the Aquaman of the Avengers

Nah you're just the Seaman of the forum.

smh! I gots ta shutup.

Don't worry about it Ninjak

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
That just annoys me. Hes one of the rare characters where its generally ok to call him a wife beater yet many of the murderers are accepted because they are trying to redeem themself lol. I bet Magneto's threw a few cars through women's faces.

Originally posted by Bentley
Man, I just realized Pym is the Aquaman of the Avengers

You act like that's a bad thing.

Originally posted by Bentley
Man, I just realized Pym is the Aquaman of the Avengers

Don't even go there.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You act like that's a bad thing.

Not so much as a bad thing as me being genuinely surprised to never have realized it before.

Originally posted by Bentley
Man, I just realized Pym is the Aquaman of the Avengers Lots of crimes happen in anthills.

I don't think Pym will ever get past the wife beater thing. They try to retcon it away and somehow the reality can't stick and it just warps back somehow. They make him an evil skrull and even the skrull suffers guilt and doesn't want to be him. Writers will keep bringing it back because think they have nothing better to define him with and they are basically lazy. Although at least guys like Slott actually tried.

And as long as Ultron keeps coming back and killing entire nations of people, someone is going to turn around and say "Pym, I always thought of you as just that crazy wife-beater guy, but you also created that guy too didn't you?" And Ultron will keep coming back and will keep killing - how could anyone not feel guilt over causing that?

Well, Busiek did retcon Ultron so its mind was based in Pym's brainwaves, so it's even a bit worse that just having created Ultron in the past. He actually is Ultron in some twisted way.