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Well being as hot as the sun and all he probably has taken edo madara's place as the strongest hst character. And that is hard for me to admit but there is no one in narutoverse or onepieceverse who can stop this beast agree(with the possible exception of edo madara)?

Whitebeard kills him with a quake to the skull actually.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Whitebeard kills him with a quake to the skull actually.

LOL yammamoto before his bankai reveal was already considered by most people to be stronger than whitebeard with his bankai now he would utterly destroy him.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
LOL yammamoto before his bankai reveal was already considered by most people to be stronger than whitebeard with his bankai now he would utterly destroy him. Who are these most people?

Certainly no people I would associate with.

Whitebeard's quakes get past his flame defense, being immaterial in nature, and are sufficient to brutalise him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Who are these most people?

Certainly no people I would associate with.

Whitebeard's quakes get past his flame defense, being immaterial in nature, and are sufficient to brutalise him.

Yeah good luck brutalizing someone who tanked a town buster. Yammamoto literaly just walks up to him and lets stupid whitebeard touch him incinerating his shit arm regardless of haki. Then he gets disintegrated.

Whitebeard can bust out city busters, which are stronger than town busters.

Also, ET Madara would probably also beat Yamamoto.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Whitebeard can bust out city busters, which are stronger than town busters.

Also, ET Madara would probably also beat Yamamoto.

City busters? Marineford is not that big and the best he did was CUT it in half unlike the explosion that literally would have obliterated karakura town.
Yes I know edo madara would put up a fight but it is very hard to imagine him fighting someone with armor as hot as the sun I doubt his susanoo can take it.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
City busters? Marineford is not that big and the best he did was CUT it in half unlike the explosion that literally would have obliterated karakura town.
Yes I know edo madara would put up a fight but it is very hard to imagine him fighting someone with armor as hot as the sun I doubt his susanoo can take it. The island splitter was a city busting attack, going by volume of rock destroyed.

He quakes the shit out of Yama's head.

Edo Madara's Final Susano'o has far too much destructive capacity, that the flame armour can't defend against. I would be unwilling to argue even Whitebeard against that shit.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The island splitter was a city busting attack, going by volume of rock destroyed.

He quakes the shit out of Yama's head.

Edo Madara's Final Susano'o has far too much destructive capacity, that the flame armour can't defend against. I would be unwilling to argue even Whitebeard against that shit.

Too bad it does not compare to something that can actually destroy everything in it's radius plus the explosion was probably a city buster as it would have destroyed an area much larger than karakura town!
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html

And no trying to touch yammamoto would be hard enough with the whole flight think and shunpo and all but hitting him when he is surrounded by that armor! That is just suicide! Then there is the fact that one slash from ryuujin jaka would heavily damage or even kill whitebeard who does not have the best durability
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/onepiece/images/0/05/Whitebeardfighting.png&imgrefurl=http://revavoerbach.blogspot.com/2012/06/edward-newgate-edward-newgate-edowado.html&usg=__Mp6_ZWuXWKQ_LhYuEE8Z3fAr4NM=&h=1054&w=1058&sz=1119&hl=en&start=0&sig2=rqts7M_oUyqmn81P3uHJog&zoom=1&tbnid=3GgeNBwVW3CEOM:&tbnh=152&tbnw=158&ei=XeFTUJLLEcPs0gHdl4DABw&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=187&vpy=177&dur=84&hovh=224&hovw=225&tx=135&ty=132&sig=108287058723927034365&page=1&ndsp=7&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:54

Im not saying that the PS slashes won't hurt yammamoto cuz they will but if he were to fly straight forward and ram against it I wonder if it would be able to take sun temperture heat.

To be fair Yamamoto actually had to prep that...for some reason: even though by Aizen's own admission Yama was the strongest person there

Yeah Whitebeard still kills Yamamoto. I could also argue Enel could take him on but..nah.

Hey Nemebro, why wouldn't you want to argue a Yamamoto vs Madara fight. Seems pretty interesting.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
To be fair Yamamoto actually had to prep that...for some reason: even though by Aizen's own admission Yama was the strongest person there

Yeah Whitebeard still kills Yamamoto. I could also argue Enel could take him on but..nah.

Hey Nemebro, why wouldn't you want to argue a Yamamoto vs Madara fight. Seems pretty interesting.

Prep does not matter he tanked a explosion that was said to be many times larger than a town so we are going on a city buster and maybe more.
LOL no Yammamoto>Whitebard

That was just to illustrate the point that Yamamoto can't city bust on the fly. Plus tanking that attack wasn't a walk in the park and Whitebeard can throw city busting quakes casually. Then there's the issue of Whitebeard being able to fight with far worse injuries then Yamamoto. So yeah Whitebeard would still win and the top three in Naruto can arguably match him as well.

But the next chapter of Bleach just might prove my first point moot.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That was just to illustrate the point that Yamamoto can't city bust on the fly. Plus tanking that attack wasn't a walk in the park and Whitebeard can throw city busting quakes casually. Then there's the issue of Whitebeard being able to fight with far worse injuries then Yamamoto. So yeah Whitebeard would still win and the top three in Naruto can arguably match him as well.

But the next chapter of Bleach just might prove my first point moot.

At least he actually tanked it whitebeard was pierced by fodder swords and weapons. Yammamoto>whitebeard in durability

"Casually" Whitebeard does not casually do that level of attack he obviously put alot of power into that.

There is the difference yammamoto would not get injuries like the ones whitebeard got from FODDER. Whitebeard has great endurance but not the best durability where yammamoto has both.

Whitebeard cannot even quake punch him with his arm being burnt away. And yammamoto has shunpo and flight to aid him. One slash from ryuujin jaka would probably kill whitebeard.

And I have not even included kido into the argument.

Whitebeard has tagged people faster...much faster that Yamamoto. Besides Whitebeard fighting while missing half a face from tanking an attack that vaporized a giant iceberg is no small feat. I'll give you the durability argument but Whitebeard can dish out that damage ten-fold.

How would Whitebeard be burned? He had no problem tagging Akainu and Aizen didn't disintergrate from stabbing him.

Yamamoto hasn't shown kido in his fights so I doubt that could be used.

And even if we were to let Yamamoto win for the sake of the argument he still wouldn't be the strongest in the HST. By powerscaling both Rikkudo and Enel are continent busters while Shirahoshi can summon Sea-king that could dwarf a city. I'd also like to mention that Enel is the only character in the HST that has actually busted an island on his own power and w/Maxim had the potential to destroy a continent: At least Skypea should be about that size IIRC.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin Too bad it does not compare to something that can actually destroy everything in it's radius plus the explosion was probably a city buster as it would have destroyed an area much larger than karakura town!
http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-16/bleach/chapter-395.html

No proof, all assumption.

Face it kid, quantifiably Whitebeard's feat is better.



He took an attack that vaporised an iceberg the size of a mountain with relatively minor damage. He has quite good durability actually.

You could harp on about him being injured by the Marines, but that just proves the Marines are strong, not that Whitebeard is weak.

Also, Whitebeard doesn't have to touch Yamamoto, which you do not seem to grasp. His quakes are projectiles, and two casual ones shattered mountain-sized icebergs.



Even if it cuts a hole in it, unless he hits Madara, Madara himself is fine.

I don't see any of this hype beating Madara nor Whitebeard.

Maybe this guy could be a match for Gecko Moria

Juubi's still much higher on the destructive scale.

thread was snipe down before it started.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Whitebeard has tagged people faster...much faster that Yamamoto. Besides Whitebeard fighting while missing half a face from tanking an attack that vaporized a giant iceberg is no small feat. I'll give you the durability argument but Whitebeard can dish out that damage ten-fold.

How would Whitebeard be burned? He had no problem tagging Akainu and Aizen didn't disintergrate from stabbing him.

Yamamoto hasn't shown kido in his fights so I doubt that could be used.

And even if we were to let Yamamoto win for the sake of the argument he still wouldn't be the strongest in the HST. By powerscaling both Rikkudo and Enel are continent busters while Shirahoshi can summon Sea-king that could dwarf a city. I'd also like to mention that Enel is the only character in the HST that has actually busted an island on his own power and w/Maxim had the potential to destroy a continent: At least Skypea should be about that size IIRC.

Am I supposed to be impressed that a huge block of ice was vaporized by a huge amount of lava? Running hot water the equivalent of an icebrg would have melted it very fast as well. So it is not that impressive that he melted ICE WITH LAVA.

You clearly are mixing up durability with endurance. The lava easily burned right through his body. That is not durability as he was easily penetrated however it is an endurance feat since he still kept going.

He used haki to hit a distracted akainu but there not not enough haki in the world for him to penetrate yammamoto's sun level armor.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-19/bleach/chapter-395.html
that and he was the one who put the barrier over the fake karakura town.

CURRENTLY he MIGHT be the strongest with the possible exception of madara. Rikudo is not alive so I do not include him. And enel is not a country buster he needed maxim which is not even part of his own power to destroy an island. That story of him destroying his home island might have been referring to him just destroying the villages and fields and killing all the people. And shirahoshi would get killed way before she can summon any sea king.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No proof, all assumption.

Face it kid, quantifiably Whitebeard's feat is better.



He took an attack that vaporised an iceberg the size of a mountain with relatively minor damage. He has quite good durability actually.

You could harp on about him being injured by the Marines, but that just proves the Marines are strong, not that Whitebeard is weak.

Also, Whitebeard doesn't have to touch Yamamoto, which you do not seem to grasp. His quakes are projectiles, and two casual ones shattered mountain-sized icebergs.



Even if it cuts a hole in it, unless he hits Madara, Madara himself is fine.

So your saying that aizen's statement is false cuz I do not think that yamamoto would have rused to stop the explosion if it was not as strong as he said it would be. Ennetsu jigoku was already said to be strong enough to wipe karakura town out so the idea that an explosion of yamamoto's condensed flames would not do it is foolish.

That is not durability look at what I said to the guy I quoted above you. "Casually" look up the definition he clearly put alot of strength into that.

My point is that being as hot as the sun he could probably burn through PS susanoo though that does not mean he will win as a few slashes could kill him before he reaches madara. Though I will say that I do think that I have changed my mind on edo madara being beaten because I wrote my statement in haste. Though I still beleive that Yamamoto>Whitebeard

Originally posted by Q99
Juubi's still much higher on the destructive scale.

Of course the juubi is stronger but it is not alive yet so im only going by people who are alive.
Though I did change my mind and now acknowlege that yamamoto would probably lose to edo madara.

Also, we simply haven't seem Yamamoto do *that* much with his new powers.

Could he take a biju ball from Naruto and Kurama? Maybe, but then again, maybe not.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Am I supposed to be impressed that a huge block of ice was vaporized by a huge amount of lava? Running hot water the equivalent of an icebrg would have melted it very fast as well. So it is not that impressive that he melted ICE WITH LAVA.

You clearly are mixing up durability with endurance. The lava easily burned right through his body. That is not durability as he was easily penetrated however it is an endurance feat since he still kept going.

He used haki to hit a distracted akainu but there not not enough haki in the world for him to penetrate yammamoto's sun level armor.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-48094-19/bleach/chapter-395.html
that and he was the one who put the barrier over the fake karakura town.

CURRENTLY he MIGHT be the strongest with the possible exception of madara. Rikudo is not alive so I do not include him. And enel is not a country buster he needed maxim which is not even part of his own power to destroy an island. That story of him destroying his home island might have been referring to him just destroying the villages and fields and killing all the people. And shirahoshi would get killed way before she can summon any sea king.


That Iceberg was easily as large if not larger than the hill Ichigo busted. The amount of heat required to completely vaporise it, no even a puddle was left IIRC, would be enormous.

The fact that Whitebeard tanked that attack with relatively minor injuries is nothing short of beasty. On top of that he was able to fight with half his face missing. And how was Akainu distracted?

And it was Kisuke that made the pillars IIRC. Besides if Yamamoto wasn't the strongest of the HST back then, then why would he be the strongest now?

Yamamoto isn't even the strongest in his own verse: unless Kubo decides to recton his explanation to trancendent beings Dangai Ichigo is still the most powerful Bleach character and he would get worked by Whitebeard. Enel with Maxim had the potential to destory all of Skypea and actually did destroy a sky island abeit with Maxim:
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2401-11/one-piece/chapter-294.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2401-12/one-piece/chapter-294.html

And as badass as Yamamoto's bankai is, it hasn't done anything that Whitebeard can't handle. The 15 million degree sun armor hasn't done anything but dry up the water in the atmosphere.

Originally posted by Q99
Also, we simply haven't seem Yamamoto do *that* much with his new powers.

Could he take a biju ball from Naruto and Kurama? Maybe, but then again, maybe not.

True.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That Iceberg was easily as large if not larger than the hill Ichigo busted. The amount of heat required to completely vaporise it, no even a puddle was left IIRC, would be enormous.

The fact that Whitebeard tanked that attack with relatively minor injuries is nothing short of beasty. On top of that he was able to fight with half his face missing. And how was Akainu distracted?

And it was Kisuke that made the pillars IIRC. Besides if Yamamoto wasn't the strongest of the HST back then, then why would he be the strongest now?

Yamamoto isn't even the strongest in his own verse: unless Kubo decides to recton his explanation to trancendent beings Dangai Ichigo is still the most powerful Bleach character and he would get worked by Whitebeard. Enel with Maxim had the potential to destory all of Skypea and actually did destroy a sky island abeit with Maxim:
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2401-11/one-piece/chapter-294.html
http://www.mangapanda.com/103-2401-12/one-piece/chapter-294.html

And as badass as Yamamoto's bankai is, it hasn't done anything that Whitebeard can't handle. The 15 million degree sun armor hasn't done anything but dry up the water in the atmosphere.

You don't get what I meant I did not deny it's size but lava melting ice is not that big of a feat.

He has ENDURANCE but he was still not DURABLE enough as the lava easily pierced him. What part of that don't you great he has great endurance but his durability is not on yamamoto's level who was able to tank a city buster and actually not have parts of his body blown to hell.

Deosn't matter he still has shown the use of kido where you thought he did not. So he does have kido he can use in his fights.

What part of CURRENTLY!!!! Don't you get. Is dangai ichigo around currently? NO! Then this has been brought up BECAUSE he showed a new power. However The only person who could beat him is edo madara so it is between those two though edo madara would probably win admittingly!

But he is still above whitebeard.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
True.



You don't get what I meant I did not deny it's size but lava melting ice is not that big of a feat.

He has ENDURANCE but he was still not DURABLE enough as the lava easily pierced him. What part of that don't you great he has great endurance but his durability is not on yamamoto's level who was able to tank a city buster and actually not have parts of his body blown to hell.

Deosn't matter he still has shown the use of kido where you thought he did not. So he does have kido he can use in his fights.

What part of CURRENTLY!!!! Don't you get. Is dangai ichigo around currently? NO! Then this has been brought up BECAUSE he showed a new power. However The only person who could beat him is edo madara so it is between those two though edo madara would probably win admittingly!

But he is still above whitebeard.

But Akainu didn't just melt it, he completely vaporised it almost instantaneously.

It's still a durability feat since Whitebeard was able to get off with only relatively minor injuries. Anyone else hit by that attack would've died on the spot.

Yamamoto was no longer able to fight after tanking said city buster. Whitebeard can throw quake punches around and quake slashes for as long as he likes. Then there's the fact that Whitebeard is leagues stronger than Yamamoto physically.

Dude chill. Not only was that not specified in the OP but your using Whitebeard(a dead character) as a comparison for Yamamoto being the strongest in the HST: Dangai Ichigo should be fair game since the actually character is still alive. Heck Naruto and possibly Obito(if given bijus) could possibly beat Yamamoto.

Not based on feats

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
But Akainu didn't just melt it, he completely vaporised it almost instantaneously.

It's still a durability feat since Whitebeard was able to get off with only relatively minor injuries. Anyone else hit by that attack would've died on the spot.

Yamamoto was no longer able to fight after tanking said city buster. Whitebeard can throw quake punches around and quake slashes for as long as he likes. Then there's the fact that Whitebeard is leagues stronger than Yamamoto physically.

Dude chill. Not only was that not specified in the OP but your using Whitebeard(a dead character) as a comparison for Yamamoto being the strongest in the HST: Dangai Ichigo should be fair game since the actually character is still alive. Heck Naruto and possibly Obito(if given bijus) could possibly beat Yamamoto.

Not based on feats

Yes he vaporized i and blah blah blah but what do you expect when lava is up against ice.

What durability any part of his body that was hit by magma was completely incinerated. He has endurance!

That still a better feat in durability THAN ANYTHING whitebeard has shown since his feats are mostly endurance. I can guarantee you one slash from ryuujin jaka would most likely kill whitebeard. Whitebeard would have been blown to hell if he had to use his body to stop the city buster yammamoto took.

I am comparing because Nemebro brought him up and I decided to tell him why even if whitebeard was alive he would not beat yammamoto. And dangai ichigo currently does not exist as his character can't use that power.

The only perdopn in the hst currently who could beat yammamoto is eod madara which would make yamamoto still at least #2 though the fight would be hard for either of them.

Yamamoto>whitebeard

Ya'know when you double post just to say your supporting character wins, it comes off a little fan try-hard.

Originally posted by BloodRain
Ya'know when you double post just to say your supporting character wins, it comes off a little fan try-hard.

No it was cuz I wanted to edit my post but accidentally clicked quote so after I wrote some shit I pasted it but I could not delete. So I just erased all of it and wrote that.

Technically Yamamoto is still among the most unpopular characters in the series, not even hitting the top thirty in Bleach. Tōshirō on the other hand is doing quite well. Which is funny because they're polar opposites in virtually every respect.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yes he vaporized i and blah blah blah but what do you expect when lava is up against ice.

What durability any part of his body that was hit by magma was completely incinerated. He has endurance!

That still a better feat in durability THAN ANYTHING whitebeard has shown since his feats are mostly endurance. I can guarantee you one slash from ryuujin jaka would most likely kill whitebeard. Whitebeard would have been blown to hell if he had to use his body to stop the city buster yammamoto took.

I am comparing because Nemebro brought him up and I decided to tell him why even if whitebeard was alive he would not beat yammamoto. And dangai ichigo currently does not exist as his character can't use that power.

The only perdopn in the hst currently who could beat yammamoto is eod madara which would make yamamoto still at least #2 though the fight would be hard for either of them.

It was as big as a mountain for one or at least the size of the hill Ichigo busted. And regular lava should've cooled due to the massive volume of ice that was chucked at Akainu.

So fighting with only half a face after being hit by the best the marines have to offer<<<Getting burned. And your ignoring the fact that afterward Yamamoto didn't have the strength to fight other than blowing up his arm in a weird suicide attempt. Whitebeard quakes are so powerful that they can tilt Marineford and cause massive Tsunami felt across the Grand Line by accident as proven by Teach.

Once again that wasn't specified and even if we limit this to living/current characters, that would make Yamamoto the strongest in his own verse at best. The admirals and the big 3 in Naruto could still beat Yamamoto. Yamamoto has yet to show the capacity for city-busting attacks on the fly and his attacks, as powerful as they are, don't quite match up to the destruction in the other two verses.

Originally posted by Astner
Technically Yamamoto is still among the most unpopular characters in the series, not even hitting the top thirty in Bleach. Tōshirō on the other hand is doing quite well. Which is funny because they're polar opposites in virtually every respect.
It's probably because Toshiro isn't an ass like Yamamoto and I don't hide my dislike for Toshiro either. Dude's willing to kill the entire Gotei 13 just to defeat one man w/o a care in the world but gets pissed when one guy dies and has his bankai stolen.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
So your saying that aizen's statement is false cuz I do not think that yamamoto would have rused to stop the explosion if it was not as strong as he said it would be. Ennetsu jigoku was already said to be strong enough to wipe karakura town out so the idea that an explosion of yamamoto's condensed flames would not do it is foolish.

No one has disputed Yamamoto's ability to destroy a town like Karakura.

What I am saying is that you can't prove his destructive capacity is on the same level as Whitebeard's.



Why should I care what you said? What you said was wrong.

To output enough energy to vaporise a mountain-sized iceberg, even with a magma fist, is a lot of energy, and to tank that is impressive.



Lol.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c563/12.html

He destroyed two icebergs with one quake, with no sign of strain.

Stop this.



I do not care.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
It was as big as a mountain for one or at least the size of the hill Ichigo busted. And regular lava should've cooled due to the massive volume of ice that was chucked at Akainu.

So fighting with only half a face after being hit by the best the marines have to offer<<<Getting burned. And your ignoring the fact that afterward Yamamoto didn't have the strength to fight other than blowing up his arm in a weird suicide attempt. Whitebeard quakes are so powerful that they can tilt Marineford and cause massive Tsunami felt across the Grand Line by accident as proven by Teach.

Once again that wasn't specified and even if we limit this to living/current characters, that would make Yamamoto the strongest in his own verse at best. The admirals and the big 3 in Naruto could still beat Yamamoto. Yamamoto has yet to show the capacity for city-busting attacks on the fly and his attacks, as powerful as they are, don't quite match up to the destruction in the other two verses.


It's probably because Toshiro isn't an ass like Yamamoto and I don't hide my dislike for Toshiro either. Dude's willing to kill the entire Gotei 13 just to defeat one man w/o a care in the world but gets pissed when one guy dies and has his bankai stolen.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-47298-5/one-piece/chapter-575.html
This is not half a face first of all and second lava>ice if you know that volcanoes in arctic regions easily melt through any ice.

Okay look the only part of his body to be hit by lava was completely obliterated imagine what would happen when a mass a lava equivalent to his body hit him. He would 100% be disintegrated. Now yammamoto actually tanked a city buster without having parts of his body blown away. And was still able to cast a high level spell.
Nuke>small amount of lava to the face!

Now yammamoto's flames reduced metal,stone and wood to ash immediatly on contact and at times without touching them. Do you realize how hot his fire must be to reduce metal into ash not molten but ash.

If you think akainu or aokiji can beat yammamoto your crazy the only admiral who has a chance of beating him is kizaru.


Originally posted by NemeBro
No one has disputed Yamamoto's ability to destroy a town like Karakura.

What I am saying is that you can't prove his destructive capacity is on the same level as Whitebeard's.



Why should I care what you said? What you said was wrong.

To output enough energy to vaporise a mountain-sized iceberg, even with a magma fist, is a lot of energy, and to tank that is impressive.



Lol.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c563/12.html

He destroyed two icebergs with one quake, with no sign of strain.

Stop this.



I do not care.

http://www.mangareader.net/94-47594-7/bleach/chapter-393.html
Yamamoto does not need prep to do this!

What did whitebeard tank? A small amount of lava that completely ans easily burnt almost half his face! WOW what a beast! Even though he was pierced by a bunch of fodder with blades and bullets meaning his body is not that durable he is for some reason gonna tank a fire that turned METAL INTO ASH NOT MOLTEN ASH. Good luck with that idea! And what dd yamamoto tank without losing a limb or any huge visible injury? A NUKE! NUKE>small amount of lava+swords+bullets!

Those are not the level of quakes he will start of with a to top it all of he has to do that stupid arm thing to do strong quakes that might hurt yamamoto which would give someone like yammamoto who out ran two captains with ease can go and strike whitebeard. And whitebeard being the arrogant little shit he is will try to tank it and then this happens to whitebeard.
http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/505/3

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47298-5/one-piece/chapter-575.html
This is not half a face first of all and second lava>ice if you know that volcanoes in arctic regions easily melt through any ice.

Okay look the only part of his body to be hit by lava was completely obliterated imagine what would happen when a mass a lava equivalent to his body hit him. He would 100% be disintegrated. Now yammamoto actually tanked a city buster without having parts of his body blown away. And was still able to cast a high level spell.
Nuke>small amount of lava to the face!

Now yammamoto's flames reduced metal,stone and wood to ash immediatly on contact and at times without touching them. Do you realize how hot his fire must be to reduce metal into ash not molten but ash.

If you think akainu or aokiji can beat yammamoto your crazy the only admiral who has a chance of beating him is kizaru.




http://www.mangareader.net/94-47594-7/bleach/chapter-393.html
Yamamoto does not need prep to do this!



Dude took out a good chunck of his face and your ignoring the fact that Akainu vaporized completely, not just melted, the iceberg. Nobody here is arguing ice>lava unless of course it's absolute zero which isn't the case here.

"What if" is different from what actually happend and what actually happened was that Whitebeard pwned Akainu: a dude that can turn himself into lava. And Yamamotowas on his knees after that attack and severely burned though it's still impressive: it doesn't show he can take multiple quake punches.

Aokiji has haki to go along with his ice attacks and Kizaru would pwn him. Besides Yamamoto doesn't chuck supernovas at people as you like to think he does.

Dude said he prepared the city-buster right here: http://www.mangapanda.com/94-47594-15/bleach/chapter-393.html

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Dude took out a good chunck of his face and your ignoring the fact that Akainu vaporized completely, not just melted, the iceberg. Nobody here is arguing ice>lava unless of course it's absolute zero which isn't the case here.

"What if" is different from what actually happend and what actually happened was that Whitebeard pwned Akainu: a dude that can turn himself into lava. And Yamamotowas on his knees after that attack and severely burned though it's still impressive: it doesn't show he can take multiple quake punches.

Aokiji has haki to go along with his ice attacks and Kizaru would pwn him. Besides Yamamoto doesn't chuck supernovas at people as you like to think he does.

Dude said he prepared the city-buster right here: http://www.mangapanda.com/94-47594-15/bleach/chapter-393.html

Oh man im not arguing that the lava is not hot. But such a small amount literally obliterated the part of whitebeard that it hit. So he is not that durable. Then the fact that yamamoto's flames turned metal to ash shows how hot it is meaning it can easily destroy whitebeard.

How is he gonna quake punch someone with armor as hot as the sun
http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/507/18
His haki is not gonna protect him from temperatures as hot as the sun.

Any attack aokiji has got is useless in front of yamamoto and his haki is not helping him. Yamamoto does not even need to use his bankai on someone who wasn't able to overpower ace's flames. Kizaru is the only one who will give him trouble.

That is a totally different attack called ennetsu jigoku that once activated creates SEVEN flame pillars. The one pillar he created when he entered the battle was simply a burst of his power.
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ennetsu_Jigoku
totally different things he can still do one pillar of fire whenever he wants to. The explanation on the wiki is taken from the bleach databook written by kubo himself which means his prepared attack is the one with seven pillars the one he did alone was just a random attack.

One again I'm not talking about melting I'm talking about completely vaporizing it to the point where not even a puddle was left and considering Whitebeard took that with only damage to the face is still amazing.

Whitebeard's quake punches are ranged and Yamamoto's sun armor has done nothing so far. plus his bankai's range in general is extremely limited despite its power.

Aokiji was able to fight Akainu for days, who killed Ace with no problem, so Yamamoto shouldn't be a problem especially since he can flash freeze two giant tsunamis. Plus Yamamoto hasn't shown himself to be completely fireproof either or lightning proof for that matter.

The seven pillars were what actually packed the city busting punch. One pillar wouldn't be enough to save him from a quake punch or slash for that matter. Like Nemebro said, Yamamoto is definitely a city buster but he hasn't shown the capacity to throw giant city buster out on the fly.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
One again I'm not talking about melting I'm talking about completely vaporizing it to the point where not even a puddle was left and considering Whitebeard took that with only damage to the face is still amazing.

Whitebeard's quake punches are ranged and Yamamoto's sun armor has done nothing so far. plus his bankai's range in general is extremely limited despite its power.

Aokiji was able to fight Akainu for days, who killed Ace with no problem, so Yamamoto shouldn't be a problem especially since he can flash freeze two giant tsunamis. Plus Yamamoto hasn't shown himself to be completely fireproof either or lightning proof for that matter.

The seven pillars were what actually packed the city busting punch. One pillar wouldn't be enough to save him from a quake punch or slash for that matter. Like Nemebro said, Yamamoto is definitely a city buster but he hasn't shown the capacity to throw giant city buster out on the fly.

Again it is to be expected that a concentrated amount of lava evaporating ice is not that special. Sure it is cool and a testament ot how hot it is but it evaporating

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
One again I'm not talking about melting I'm talking about completely vaporizing it to the point where not even a puddle was left and considering Whitebeard took that with only damage to the face is still amazing.

Whitebeard's quake punches are ranged and Yamamoto's sun armor has done nothing so far. plus his bankai's range in general is extremely limited despite its power.

Aokiji was able to fight Akainu for days, who killed Ace with no problem, so Yamamoto shouldn't be a problem especially since he can flash freeze two giant tsunamis. Plus Yamamoto hasn't shown himself to be completely fireproof either or lightning proof for that matter.

The seven pillars were what actually packed the city busting punch. One pillar wouldn't be enough to save him from a quake punch or slash for that matter. Like Nemebro said, Yamamoto is definitely a city buster but he hasn't shown the capacity to throw giant city buster out on the fly.

Ignore above post it did not load my full explanation I only realized now.

Again it is to be expected that a concentrated amount of lava evaporated ice so it is not that special. Sure it is cool and a testament to how hot it is but it evaporating is not that huge of a thing.

At the end of the day if whitebeard took that top his whole body then he would have bean obliterated so one slash or ryuujin jaka will do the job.

Whitebeard is not starting off with strong quakes so yammaoto can dodge or tank the and if he wanted to do strong ones he would have to do that hand thing which gives someone has fast as yamamoto enough time to reach over and slash him. Whitebeard would try to tank it but die. Also he can't go up close and quake bunce without being incinerated.

The level of heat of yama's shikai itself is more than enough to overpower aokiji plus he has the aerial advantage. One slash would kill aokiji.

He did that pillar in under a second and it was massive in height and radius so whitebeard who would not be far away would barely have time to react or counter it. Even if he di he would be distracted enough for yammamoto to shunpo and finish him.

That still takes lots of energy to do especially for an object as large as the iceberg Akainu melted. For Whitebeard to take that ontop of previous injuries and still beat Akainu is just a testament to his power.

Whitebeard was still stronger and still split Marineford with that quake punch.

He doesn't need to. Whitebeard has been shown to demolish giants and smash two massive icebergs. Besides speed isn't a problem for Whitebeard due to his range and having tagged Kizaru under his belt. Though that brings up the question, what has Yamamoto done that's been impressive enough that he can blitz Whitebeard?

Aokiji fought someone with a DF advantage for 10 days before being defeated and actually managed to change the landscade on one half of the island they fought on. Yamamoto's not taking Aokiji lightly at all.

One fire-pillar isn't a city buster, one quake punch is an island buste/spliter.Plus the pillars don't just up and burn people off the bat at least not how Yamamoto has used it. Shunpo isn't nearly enough of a speed advantage to take Whitebeard out

but regardless of this argument Yamamoto is not #1 in the Hst now. Teach could probably beat Yamamoto as well.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
http://www.mangareader.net/94-47594-7/bleach/chapter-393.html
Yamamoto does not need prep to do this!

I can't see mangareader, but I know what you are referring to: And yes, it would seem that some amount of prep was needed for that attack.



http://obdpictures1.wikispaces.com/file/view/Whitebeard_vs_Akainu.png

He took this while suffering a heart attack I should mention.



Akainu's attacks are in the 250+ kiloton range in terms of vaporisation (Yes, according to the iceberg feat, you whining about it being ice doesn't change the feat being that impressive, put up or shut up).

That it did so little damage is testament to his durability.



That those characters could harm him proves they are strong, not that Whitebeard is weak.

Keep in mind that Haki empowers even bullets in One Piece, as Rayleigh has shown us.

Good luck with that idea! And what dd yamamoto tank without losing a limb or any huge visible injury? A NUKE! NUKE>small amount of lava+swords+bullets!

He tanked a bunch of flame that Aizen says would have taken out Karakura town.

This is about on par with Akainu's attacks.

It wasn't a nuke, you even saying "HUR IT WAS A NUKE" only makes you look like a tool.

Stop it.



You mean... Punch?

Because his strongest Quake, the one that split Marineford, was just done with a punch, and when he shattered the two icebergs, it was also just one punch.

It's not slow, like you seem to be implying.



Whitebeard quantifiably attacks faster, and his Quakes will end Yamamoto.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
That still takes lots of energy to do especially for an object as large as the iceberg Akainu melted. For Whitebeard to take that ontop of previous injuries and still beat Akainu is just a testament to his power.

Whitebeard was still stronger and still split Marineford with that quake punch.

He doesn't need to. Whitebeard has been shown to demolish giants and smash two massive icebergs. Besides speed isn't a problem for Whitebeard due to his range and having tagged Kizaru under his belt. Though that brings up the question, what has Yamamoto done that's been impressive enough that he can blitz Whitebeard?

Aokiji fought someone with a DF advantage for 10 days before being defeated and actually managed to change the landscade on one half of the island they fought on. Yamamoto's not taking Aokiji lightly at all.

One fire-pillar isn't a city buster, one quake punch is an island buste/spliter.Plus the pillars don't just up and burn people off the bat at least not how Yamamoto has used it. Shunpo isn't nearly enough of a speed advantage to take Whitebeard out

but regardless of this argument Yamamoto is not #1 in the Hst now. Teach could probably beat Yamamoto as well.

If he took an amount of lava equivalent to his whole body he would have been entirely killed. Yamamoto's flames which spread over quickly and are even hotter would have no problem incinerating him. What part of that don't you get?

Whitebeard does not start of with his strong quakes which would be the ones that actually hurt yamamoto. And those ones need him do pull his arm back giving yamamoto enough time to attack him. Yamamoto out sped to captains to the point where he had to wait for them literally traveling miles in 1 sec.

Really is this a joke?!
Yamamoto's presence in his bankai form alone is evaporating all the water in soul society. If he does not turn it off soon he will eventually destroy all of soul society.
Soul society>One half of punk hazard
On top of it all it took aokiji ten days to do that to half a island. In a min yammamoto has already evaporated all the water in soul society and very soon he might destroy all of soul society.
A few min>Ten days in the speed aspect.

WHat starting of by attacking with a pillar of fire with that much reach is not gonna hurt whitebeard who won't have mcu htime to react and is gonna have to use alot of power to counter. That would give yammamoto enough time to go up to him and finish him.

We have not seen blakcbeard yet so im holding of on including him. The one that we saw at marineford who did not have much control of whitebeards powers was having trouble fighting sengoku. Yammamoto can handle him.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I can't see mangareader, but I know what you are referring to: And yes, it would seem that some amount of prep was needed for that attack.



http://obdpictures1.wikispaces.com/file/view/Whitebeard_vs_Akainu.png

He took this while suffering a heart attack I should mention.



Akainu's attacks are in the 250+ kiloton range in terms of vaporisation (Yes, according to the iceberg feat, you whining about it being ice doesn't change the feat being that impressive, put up or shut up).

That it did so little damage is testament to his durability.



That those characters could harm him proves they are strong, not that Whitebeard is weak.

Keep in mind that Haki empowers even bullets in One Piece, as Rayleigh has shown us.

Good luck with that idea! And what dd yamamoto tank without losing a limb or any huge visible injury? A NUKE! NUKE>small amount of lava+swords+bullets!

He tanked a bunch of flame that Aizen says would have taken out Karakura town.

This is about on par with Akainu's attacks.

It wasn't a nuke, you even saying "HUR IT WAS A NUKE" only makes you look like a tool.

Stop it.



You mean... Punch?

Because his strongest Quake, the one that split Marineford, was just done with a punch, and when he shattered the two icebergs, it was also just one punch.

It's not slow, like you seem to be implying.



Whitebeard quantifiably attacks faster, and his Quakes will end Yamamoto.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v44/c393/4.html
then use mangahere
He created that instantly and look how wide and tall it is.
Your mixing it up with ennetsu jigoku you twit.
Ennetsu jogoku is a spell that when activated creates exactly seven flame pillars that eventually fuse. He created this one right of the bat for a nice entrance.
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Ennetsu_Jigoku



So? He was still easily penetrated which is my point yamamoto would not have been.

"Did so little damage" Any part of his flesh that was hit by that small amount of lava was completely obliterated. He has good endurance not durability.

So what all the fodder in marineford were using haki?
LOL yamamoto's flames>akainu's magma
His flames turned metal to ash without even touching them you tool.

He had to pull his arm back then hit and someone with whitebeards speed can easily hit and finish the loser.

Gigantic flame pillar says otherwise.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=570422

There. Go take this discussion where it belongs.

Well since this is clearly dragging on to something entirely different I'll end my post on the following:

1. Yamamoto isn't number 1 in the HST as of now or for the all-time characters(deceased/decreased) of each of the respective verses

2. Yamamoto wasn't even the strongest in his own verse unless Kubo takes back his definition of transcendent beings

3. Yamamoto tanking a city buster doesn't mean he can hang with mountain/island busters. Case in point, Tsunade can tank city busters by herself and function while being bisected.

4. Yamamoto hasn't shown the ability to keep fighting while tanking a city-busting attacks: his action afterwards was more inclined with suicide then actually fighting back.

So with that I'm done, take this as a win if you want.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well since this is clearly dragging on to something entirely different I'll end my post on the following:

1. Yamamoto isn't number 1 in the HST as of now or for the all-time characters(deceased/decreased) of each of the respective verses

2. Yamamoto wasn't even the strongest in his own verse unless Kubo takes back his definition of transcendent beings

3. Yamamoto tanking a city buster doesn't mean he can hang with mountain/island busters. Case in point, Tsunade can tank city busters by herself and function while being bisected.

4. Yamamoto hasn't shown the ability to keep fighting while tanking a city-busting attacks: his action afterwards was more inclined with suicide then actually fighting back.

So with that I'm done, take this as a win if you want.

The only people I see beating yammamoto in his own verse are the soul king(who might not be real),dangai ichigo and hogyokou aizen the latter two currently not even around. We have to see juha's full power though.

It shows his durabiltiy which means his body can take alot of punishment without wearing or tearing. He can tank quite a few of those quakes.

Whitebard has shown no tanking feats above that so yamamoto's durability is still better than whitebeards.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v44/c393/4.html
then use mangahere
He created that instantly and look how wide and tall it is.
Your mixing it up with ennetsu jigoku you twit.

Oh, that?

The height of the flame is not as relevant as the amount of material destroyed, and even beyond that, it isn't larger than Akainu's attacks.



Prove this.



He tanked the magma punch to the chest.

Not that this really matters, Whitebeard's powerset means he doesn't need to touch Yamamoto.



Luffy: There are so many strong people here!

Using Haki or not, a good amount of them were very powerful.



Tell me how powerful that is.

You can't.

I can tell you how powerful the berg vaping was.

Over 200 kilotons.

Quantify the feats you wank.



I agree, with Whitebeard's speed he can easily hit and finish the loser, aka, Yamamoto.

Whitebeard punches at Yama and wins.



Quake punches end Yamamoto.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh, that?

The height of the flame is not as relevant as the amount of material destroyed, and even beyond that, it isn't larger than Akainu's attacks.



Prove this.



He tanked the magma punch to the chest.

Not that this really matters, Whitebeard's powerset means he doesn't need to touch Yamamoto.



Luffy: There are so many strong people here!

Using Haki or not, a good amount of them were very powerful.



Tell me how powerful that is.

You can't.

I can tell you how powerful the berg vaping was.

Over 200 kilotons.

Quantify the feats you wank.



I agree, with Whitebeard's speed he can easily hit and finish the loser, aka, Yamamoto.

Whitebeard punches at Yama and wins.



Quake punches end Yamamoto.

LOL revisiting all of our debates to try to muster out a win from already lost battle pathetic.

You clearly left out how wide it is and the fact that it reduced METAL INTO ASH which is extreme heats beyond A fool who's best feat is melting ICE wow amazing not.

City buster>one flame punch and a thin stripe of lava.

Oh man look he was easily burned through FACT so that makes his body not durable and him still moving is an ENDURANCE feat. The same amount of lava hitting his entire body would assuredly melt him let alone fire that is able to reduce metal to ash.

Umm no he said that after getting hit by someone who not only did not look like regular fodder but also was using a mace as a weapon rather than a gun or sword which is standard with fodder marine. He was pierced by fodder sad.

Have you ever seen metal be reduced to ash by heat? No we have seen it be reduced to molten not ash. How hot do you think yamamoto's fire has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Typo I meant yama kills whitebeard.

Instant huge and tall ass flame pillar says otherwise. And his strong attacks that will be the only ones that could hurt yama require him to pull back his hand which gives yama time to strike and kill him.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
LOL revisiting all of our debates to try to muster out a win from already lost battle pathetic.

You clearly left out how wide it is and the fact that it reduced METAL INTO ASH which is extreme heats beyond A fool who's best feat is melting ICE wow amazing not.

City buster>one flame punch and a thin stripe of lava.

Oh man look he was easily burned through FACT so that makes his body not durable and him still moving is an ENDURANCE feat. The same amount of lava hitting his entire body would assuredly melt him let alone fire that is able to reduce metal to ash.

Umm no he said that after getting hit by someone who not only did not look like regular fodder but also was using a mace as a weapon rather than a gun or sword which is standard with fodder marine. He was pierced by fodder sad.

Have you ever seen metal be reduced to ash by heat? No we have seen it be reduced to molten not ash. How hot do you think yamamoto's fire has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Typo I meant yama kills whitebeard.

Instant huge and tall ass flame pillar says otherwise. And his strong attacks that will be the only ones that could hurt yama require him to pull back his hand which gives yama time to strike and kill him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxoDYzqwEhw

Vid of "lava" coming into contact with a Much smaller amount of ice, notice how the Ice didn't instantly vaporize?

Once again, not being vaporized by that magma punch shows his Endurance.

Hove you ever seen a huge block of Ice instantly vaporized by Lava? How hot do you think Akainu's lava has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Quantity doesn't neccesarily mean quality, WB was busting two island sized ice tsunami's with simple quake punches, not to mention marineford.

.... You do realize Yama has to slash with his sword... right? That takes about as much time as it does for Whitebeard to quake the shit out of Yama

Originally posted by Samurai100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxoDYzqwEhw

Vid of "lava" coming into contact with a Much smaller amount of ice, notice how the Ice didn't instantly vaporize?

Once again, not being vaporized by that magma punch shows his Endurance.

Hove you ever seen a huge block of Ice instantly vaporized by Lava? How hot do you think Akainu's lava has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Quantity doesn't neccesarily mean quality, WB was busting two island sized ice tsunami's with simple quake punches, not to mention marineford.

.... You do realize Yama has to slash with his sword... right? That takes about as much time as it does for Whitebeard to quake the shit out of Yama

THE DIFFERENCE is that akainu's attack was a CONCENTRATED and PROPELLED amount of lava.

The lava amount that HIT HIM WAS SMALL and the area it hit him easily vaporized him. The same lava but in a amount equal to whitebeard would instantly destroy his entire body. And the key word is "endurance" where im talking about durability.

Have you seen metal being reduced to ash?

Those were his stronger quakes which are also the ones he won't start of with it is like saying madara would automatically unleash PS.

The way you say it you imply that yamamoto is slow or that whitebeard is exceptionally faster which is false.

If the heat of His larger magma fist vaporized the Iceberg of that size, then shouldn't the heat have blasted a much larger hole in his body? not to mention his face....

Errrm, Whitebeard is much faster than Yama......

Case in point, surprising Akainu.... (Which wasn't due to sneaking up btw... the guys twice the size of anyone... and kinda the main focus... being the strongest guy there and all)

Originally posted by Samurai100
If the heat of His larger magma fist vaporized the Iceberg of that size, then shouldn't the heat have blasted a much larger hole in his body? not to mention his face....

Errrm, Whitebeard is much faster than Yama......

Case in point, surprising Akainu.... (Which wasn't due to sneaking up btw... the guys twice the size of anyone... and kinda the main focus... being the strongest guy there and all)

Because the attack itself was only the size of his fist being a punch from his reg fist just turned into lava so it only burnt the area at which it was large enough to hit and it easily did burn through him.

kizaru who is only lightspeed using yata no kagami. So he is slower not using it then whitebeard hit kizaru who was both not using that but was only in mid transformation to going out in a speed still slower than light speed. He is not that fast.

Akainu was distracted as if whitebeard was that much faster than him form the beginning then he would have beaten him in their first fight.

One flame pillar ends it.

If a Quake punch is > Yama's durability..

..and WB > Yama in speed..


The faster Quake punch ends it?

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
LOL revisiting all of our debates to try to muster out a win from already lost battle pathetic.

This sentence is poorly constructed.



It isn't very wide. Over 700 meters when scaled. Compared to the three kilometer icebergs Akainu vaporised.

Akainu's iceberg buster is more impressive.

Whitebeard's quake punches are definitely more impressive.

Tell me how hot it is, or how much energy is behind the attack. Quantify it.



It isn't a city buster.



Akainu's chest punch was a magma punch nearly the size of Whitebeard's body.

You're wrong.



So because they used swords, they = fodder?

Yamamoto uses a sword. Therefore Yamamoto is fodder.

Try harder, seriously.



Metal can't actually be physically burned to ash, it's liquidated. This is due to its physical properties, not due to it not being hot enough. Your argument relies on ignoring science in favor of how Kubo artistically rendered the burning of metal. That doesn't magically give it some unprecedented superheat.

Also, remind me, when is the metal turned to ash?



He punches.

He didn't pull back his hand when he destroyed the icebergs, he slammed it to the air and shattered them instantly.

Whitebeard is faster in reaction-time and can do this before Yamamoto can close the distance.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This sentence is poorly constructed.



It isn't very wide. Over 700 meters when scaled. Compared to the three kilometer icebergs Akainu vaporised.

Akainu's iceberg buster is more impressive.

Whitebeard's quake punches are definitely more impressive.

Tell me how hot it is, or how much energy is behind the attack. Quantify it.



It isn't a city buster.



Akainu's chest punch was a magma punch nearly the size of Whitebeard's body.

You're wrong.



So because they used swords, they = fodder?

Yamamoto uses a sword. Therefore Yamamoto is fodder.

Try harder, seriously.



Metal can't actually be physically burned to ash, it's liquidated. This is due to its physical properties, not due to it not being hot enough. Your argument relies on ignoring science in favor of how Kubo artistically rendered the burning of metal. That doesn't magically give it some unprecedented superheat.

Also, remind me, when is the metal turned to ash?



He punches.

He didn't pull back his hand when he destroyed the icebergs, he slammed it to the air and shattered them instantly.

Whitebeard is faster in reaction-time and can do this before Yamamoto can close the distance.

Yet it is the truth, the sad pathetic truth.

Him melting ice is nothing to destroying town blocks made of much more durable stuff in a instant. Whitebeard starts of with weak quakes which don't even do much.

It is a city buster fool I already proved that to you.

R u high or just stupid?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-42471-10/one-piece/chapter-568.html
DOES HIS HAND LOOK LIKE IT IS AS BIG AS THE REST OF WHITEBEARD?!

Okay most marine fodder use either swords or guns and all look the same being fodder and all. The one who hit luffy looked much different and was using a weapon uncommon to regular fodder. Face it he was hurt by fodder.
Ridiculous comparison as the truth is that marine fodder either use swords or guns and wear the generic uniform while that guy was totally different.

Yet yamamoto has done it how many times?
"Reduce all creation to ash"

We only see him doing that after we are shown the waves crumbling so we do not see how he started off. Do you even think before you type?

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v57/c562/15.html
Nice reaction speed!

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yet it is the truth, the sad pathetic truth.

Him melting ice is nothing to destroying town blocks made of much more durable stuff in a instant. Whitebeard starts of with weak quakes which don't even do much.

Actually considering that the energy required to do so is over 200 kilotons, it is far more impressive destroying city blocks. It's more on the level of town busting.



I'm gonna be level with you.

You haven't proved a single thing. You haven't actually proven Yamamoto can destroy a town, let alone a city, because your argument is based solely on something Aizen said.

If we want to go solely by what characters say, Whitebeard can destroy the world, based on Sengoku's quote.

So really, be generous I am even entertaining the notion that what Aizen says is 100% legit.



No, but that plume of magma looks about as big as Whitebeard's top half.



http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c569/8.html

Those are not generic uniforms.

They are not generic marines.



Why didn't you show me the metal ashing feat?

And once more, that Bleach chooses to ignore physics in its portrayal of heat affecting metal doesn't make the heat inherently "special" or "better".



Improve your English, really.

And you're assuming a level of telegraphing necessary for the quakes that we never see. Prove it.



A cheap-shot, and clearly Squardo is faster than Yamamoto.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Actually considering that the energy required to do so is over 200 kilotons, it is far more impressive destroying city blocks. It's more on the level of town busting.



I'm gonna be level with you.

You haven't proved a single thing. You haven't actually proven Yamamoto can destroy a town, let alone a city, because your argument is based solely on something Aizen said.

If we want to go solely by what characters say, Whitebeard can destroy the world, based on Sengoku's quote.

So really, be generous I am even entertaining the notion that what Aizen says is 100% legit.



No, but that plume of magma looks about as big as Whitebeard's top half.



http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c569/8.html

Those are not generic uniforms.

They are not generic marines.



Why didn't you show me the metal ashing feat?

And once more, that Bleach chooses to ignore physics in its portrayal of heat affecting metal doesn't make the heat inherently "special" or "better".



Improve your English, really.

And you're assuming a level of telegraphing necessary for the quakes that we never see. Prove it.



A cheap-shot, and clearly Squardo is faster than Yamamoto.

I do not even understand your opening paragraph.

Why do you think yamamoto rushed to stop the explosion? Because it is as strong as aizen said and would have blown the town and a much larger area sky high.

Please whitebeard was struggling to tip an island. Aizen is scared of yamamoto and aizen>>>whitebeard.

So the plume of lava that is flowing the opposite way should be included in the punch? Also the fact the hole in his body was the size of akainu's hand should have been proof enough that it was only the size of a regular fist! Your poor attempt at rationalization is sad as you just contradicted your own statement of it being as big as his whole body by saying it is as big as his top half. Twit.

Those are probably vice admirals not that it would matter as he was clearly hit by fodder.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47876-13/one-piece/chapter-576.html
To be hit by that many swords and bullets that means he was hit by fodder as there is definitely not enough vice admirals to do that.

You actually think any of these manga follow real life science all the time?

Im assuming? Wow you have no proof what so ever that he did that without pulling his arm back because we did not see him as the seen of the crumbling icebergs was far away.
Watch ep 473 the anime also depicted him pulling his arms back to do it.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-17410-3/one-piece/chapter-552.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-17410-16/one-piece/chapter-552.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47298-5/one-piece/chapter-575.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47298-6/one-piece/chapter-575.html
See the pattern you fool?
Including the video all of his biggest feats required him to pull his arm back. You SUCK AT DEBATING GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Cheap shot he was standing right in front of him and whiteebard was talking to him for crying out loud. Your such a shit debater I feel bad for you.

I really hate to go back on my work but lets be honest you really haven't given any reason why Yamamoto is no#1 in the HST. Dude if your not going to quantify any of Yamamoto's feats then just stop cause saying that his feats are high and mighty isn't enough.

Heck I could make an argument that Whitebeard wins because Yamamoto's an irrational ******* but I would be wrong since I haven't proven why. Then again it's friggin Whitebeard and going by word of mouth from Sengoku he can destroy the planet which is far more impressive than anything Yamamoto has been hyped up to do.

So Whitebeard aside, if your can't prove that Yamamoto is the strongest in the HST then he simply isn't.

Enel would 8eat him.

Therefore Enel > Yamamoto.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I really hate to go back on my work but lets be honest you really haven't given any reason why Yamamoto is no#1 in the HST. Dude if your not going to quantify any of Yamamoto's feats then just stop cause saying that his feats are high and mighty isn't enough.

Heck I could make an argument that Whitebeard wins because Yamamoto's an irrational ******* but I would be wrong since I haven't proven why. Then again it's friggin Whitebeard and going by word of mouth from Sengoku he can destroy the planet which is far more impressive than anything Yamamoto has been hyped up to do.

So Whitebeard aside, if your can't prove that Yamamoto is the strongest in the HST then he simply isn't.

The title was to grab peoples attention to the possibility though he is not #1 I was stating the possibility there are at least some people who can fight him. But then it turned to whitebeard vs yamamoto.