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Who wins?
No prep....





The Guardians of the Galaxy:

Star-Lord
Nove (Sam)
Gamera
Drax
Groot
R. Racoon


Vs


The X-Men:

Cyclops
Iceman
Beast
Colosus
Angel
Gambit

x-men, solidly

Gaurdians, solidly

Gerber's original team would fare better. As it is, I don't see what they could do about Iceman in particular, but even minus him, that is a fairly stacked line-up for the X-Men.

Starhawk would solo though

Why would X-Men win?

Why would rhe GotG win?

Groot solo's.








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Depends which bobby show up, at his best he solos but he is kinda inconsistent...

Current celestial avatar of life angel has energy manipulation, energy constructs, HF, flight, superhuman intellect and discovers a new power everyday.

Colossus is the avatar of cytorrak.

Cyke and gambit have long range high powered energy projection.

Iceman is an indestructible moisture god.


all the guardians really have to offer is nova as the rest are a bunch of low-mid metas. groot might pose a physical challenge, but seriously, iceman could solo everyone else while the rest of the x-men to pile up on nova.

Originally posted by 753
Current celestial avatar of life angel has energy manipulation, energy constructs, HF, flight, superhuman intellect and discovers a new power everyday.

Colossus is the avatar of cytorrak.

Cyke and gambit have long range high powered energy projection.

Iceman is an indestructible moisture god.


all the guardians really have to offer is nova as the rest are a bunch of low-mid metas. groot might pose a physical challenge, but seriously, iceman could solo everyone else while the rest of the x-men to pile up on nova.

angel is too much of a pacifist to utlilize his powers to the extent that would be neccessary to stop nova. didn't colossus lose his cytorrak powers post a vs x? iceman doesn't measure up to his aoa counterpart and hasn't reached his full potential yet. I don't see x-men winning this unless colossus has his cytorrak powers.

Angel will get serious as soon as he thinks his friends are threatened. I havent seen any indication that piotr lost his mojo, no.
616 iceman is doing much better in wolverine and the x-men animating armies of ice avatars and gigantic golems, but even if he werent, this guardian roster cant do shit to him.

as for this nova, he aint no dick rider.

Originally posted by 753
as for this nova, he aint no dick rider. You are saying that as if its a bad thing.
sneer

X-Men via superior teamwork

Originally posted by 753
Angel will get serious as soon as he thinks his friends are threatened. I havent seen any indication that piotr lost his mojo, no.
616 iceman is doing much better in wolverine and the x-men animating armies of ice avatars and gigantic golems, but even if he werent, this guardian roster cant do shit to him.

as for this nova, he aint no dick rider.

magik separated him from cyttorak (yes i thought it was retarded to).

not sure who wins.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
magik separated him from cyttorak (yes i thought it was retarded to).

not sure who wins. shit. when was this?

anyway x-men still win

i think bobby is a real problem here....

Bobby is too much now. He can vomit forth clones of himself that will keep the GOTG members busy whilst the others clean shop.

Cyclops unleashes ''off my lawn''

Too many members of the Guardians are melee fighters.

Xmen win this thanks to Bobby.

Originally posted by 753
Angel will get serious as soon as he thinks his friends are threatened. I havent seen any indication that piotr lost his mojo, no.
616 iceman is doing much better in wolverine and the x-men animating armies of ice avatars and gigantic golems, but even if he werent, this guardian roster cant do shit to him.

as for this nova, he aint no dick rider.

what issue was this....the ice giant thing u said

Originally posted by Sin I AM
what issue was this....the ice giant thing u said (adjectiveless) x-men 40

In a forum fight, I see the X-Men winning pretty solidly. Don't see how the GoTG will deal with Iceman.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Depends which bobby show up, at his best he solos but he is kinda inconsistent...
This.

Nova keeps Iceman occupied long enough for Drax, Gamora, and Groot to clean house... I'll take GotG.

Iceman keeps the entire GotG team occupied by beating them.

No one has any faith in Cyclops's leadership abilities?

I have faith his blast can solo half the GoG depending on how close to each other they are

Originally posted by StyleTime
Iceman keeps the entire GotG team occupied by beating them.
Doubt it..

so darx gamorra rocket racoon and groot. how do they beat angel? or iceman?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Nova keeps Iceman occupied long enough for Drax, Gamora, and Groot to clean house... I'll take GotG.

I'm sorry, what?

so, lets say, for the sake of argument, that a 2nd rate Nova can occupy Iceman for some period of time. That makes it:

Originally posted by Supermex
The Guardians of the Galaxy:

Star-Lord
Gamera
Drax
Groot
R. Racoon


Vs


The X-Men:

Cyclops
Beast
Colosus
Angel
Gambit

Arguably one of the weakest GotG line-ups ever versus a quite stacked line-up for the X-Men. Rocket and Star-Lord are essentially fodder, Groot would only be a damage soak, Drax is a shadow of his former self and has very few feats that would give him a majority against Beast, let alone the rest of the X-team. Conceivably, only Gamorra would pose a genuine threat, but the range abilities of Cyclops or Gambit would be very difficult for her to overcome.

Originally posted by Oliver North
I'm sorry, what?

so, lets say, for the sake of argument, that a 2nd rate Nova can occupy Iceman for some period of time. That makes it:



Arguably one of the weakest GotG line-ups ever versus a quite stacked line-up for the X-Men. Rocket and Star-Lord are essentially fodder, Groot would only be a damage soak, Drax is a shadow of his former self and has very few feats that would give him a majority against Beast, let alone the rest of the X-team. Conceivably, only Gamorra would pose a genuine threat, but the range abilities of Cyclops or Gambit would be very difficult for her to overcome.
I may not be a Beast expert, but u think he gets a majority over Drax?? I understand Drax is not the herald he once was, but I think ure greatly underselling him. Btw, Peter and Rocket are fodder with advanced weaponry..

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I may not be a Beast expert, but u think he gets a majority over Drax?? I understand Drax is not the herald he once was, but I think ure greatly underselling him. Btw, Peter and Rocket are fodder with advanced weaponry..

There is nothing I've seen of the current incarnation of Drax that makes me think he would have an easy time with Beast, no. What are you suggesting his best feats are? Because seriously, Beast is, well, a beast, especially on a forum.

Sure, Peter and Rocket have guns... Again though, nothing feat wise compared to what we have seen from Cyclops and Gambit on a regular basis. I haven't followed the books recently, but Angel is also amped from what I understand, so he is certainly a factor. Additionally, even if it isn't Collosusnaut, are there feats of Star Lord or Rocket bringing down someone with comparable durability?

Unless Star Lord has that busted cosmic cube handy, I don't see what he is bringing to this forum fight.

Where does the fight take place?

Iceman solos

Drax killed Lunatik and a Blood brother Lunatik lifts between Class 75-100 and one blood brother lifts 50 tons. I wonder if Iceman could hurt Drax

So what is current Drax's best strength feat then?

Originally posted by golem370
Drax killed Lunatik and a Blood brother Lunatik lifts between Class 75-100 and one blood brother lifts 50 tons. I wonder if Iceman could hurt Drax yes by freezing him.

iceman is really maturing....he's getting better and better with his powers and recently has been manipulating ice like a gl

Originally posted by Oliver North
There is nothing I've seen of the current incarnation of Drax that makes me think he would have an easy time with Beast, no. What are you suggesting his best feats are? Because seriously, Beast is, well, a beast, especially on a forum.

Sure, Peter and Rocket have guns... Again though, nothing feat wise compared to what we have seen from Cyclops and Gambit on a regular basis. I haven't followed the books recently, but Angel is also amped from what I understand, so he is certainly a factor. Additionally, even if it isn't Collosusnaut, are there feats of Star Lord or Rocket bringing down someone with comparable durability?

Unless Star Lord has that busted cosmic cube handy, I don't see what he is bringing to this forum fight.
At one point he went on a murderous bug killing spree during Annihilation to get to Thanos. He went through hundreds maybe even in thousands like hot knife through butter. They were fodder yes, but impressive nonetheless...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They were fodder yes,

That is the best feat you can come up with?

thats like bragging about someone taking on Hand ninjas

Originally posted by Oliver North
That is the best feat you can come up with?

thats like bragging about someone taking on Hand ninjas
wut did you come up with for beast? that he's a beast?.......

huh, I thought there was a respect thread for him

fair enough, I'll come up with something, but even if you take beast out of the line up it is a stomp.

yeah wolverine has like 50 of these feats killing off thousands of fodder ninjas, modern soldiers, demons, space aliens, dinausaurs, zombies, whatever

Originally posted by 753
yeah wolverine has like 50 of these feats killing off thousands of fodder ninjas, modern soldiers, demons, space aliens, dinausaurs, zombies, whatever
all well and good, but i doubt beast can cut a swath through what Drax did with ease.

considering the "inverse law" of henchmen is a plot device anyways, I'm sure he could.

like, I'm amazed you aren't using the "he murdered thanos" feat instead of the "he killed a bunch of fodder to get to that feat" feat

Originally posted by Oliver North
considering the "inverse law" of henchmen is a plot device anyways, I'm sure he could.

like, I'm amazed you aren't using the "he murdered thanos" feat instead of the "he killed a bunch of fodder to get to that feat" feat
nah... everyone knows he is Thanos's kryptonite. somewhat...

most impressive feat of beast was taking out danger, people are really overestimating him here

when i get home ill show u guys some scans...

Saying Drax doesn't beat him easily is not overestimating Beast.

Anyone who wants to provide the feats that make the following statement (the one that initiated this) incorrect are welcome to:

Originally posted by Oliver North
Drax is a shadow of his former self and has very few feats that would give him a majority against Beast

I may not keep up on X-teams, but I did just scour GotG v2 this weekend. Unless I missed something, current Drax is almost entirely unproven in a forum fight scenario. His measurable feats are few and far between.

Originally posted by Oliver North
Saying Drax doesn't beat him easily is not overestimating Beast.

Anyone who wants to provide the feats that make the following statement (the one that initiated this) incorrect are welcome to:



I may not keep up on X-teams, but I did just scour GotG v2 this weekend. Unless I missed something, current Drax is almost entirely unproven in a forum fight scenario. His measurable feats are few and far between.


blood brothers and the annhi horde sums it up

so fodder and a pair of dumb bricks?

I'm convinced...

Originally posted by Oliver North
so fodder and a pair of dumb bricks?

I'm convinced...

greater than beasts feats combined

beast is weak sure, but it doesnt matter, xmen have cyke and gambit as their nest best things after angel and iceman. guardians have drax, rocket racoon and groot after nova. **** gamorra. guardians lack reach and power

Originally posted by Oliver North
Saying Drax doesn't beat him easily is not overestimating Beast.
I did just scour GotG v2 this weekend. Unless I missed something, current Drax is almost entirely unproven in a forum fight scenario.
U shittin me right? It's either you missed something or you didn't actually look.

Kills then punks Lunatik. He's supposed to be a tough sob and was a Lobo analogue (not quite)
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-12_zpsc546d54a.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-14_zps88b2cf72.jpg

Kills one of the Blood Brothers (Very strong bricks).
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-20-21_zps7e03ada2.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-22_zpsea87dc60.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-24_zps2a210d79.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Drax4of4-25_zps3d4c6d47.jpg

This is what he does to a Universal Church of Truth Cardinal. They are quite powerful as shown in the scans...
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-002_zpsf8e47e1c.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-003_zps9125142b.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-004_zpsaa2d5365.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GOTG-005_zps8400df81.jpg

Peeps can say fodder all they want, but this is pretty frukkin impressive. He not only wades through bug after bug, he takes out a queen in the process.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation3-019_zpsbd9e1251.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation3-020_zps6cd2b636.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-003_zpse88c45d1.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-004_zps76bedee5.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-012_zps6585466f.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/Annihilation4-013_zps8da076ce.jpg

How about absolutely pwning 3 (a high class brick, energy user, and martial arts master) of the Luminals (Avengers' equivalent of Xarth Three). Uses superior martial skills, nerve strikes, and just plain 'ol arse kickin abilities.
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GuardiansoftheGalaxy05pg052_zps76eb40a3.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GuardiansoftheGalaxy05pg051_zps394b1d1f.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GuardiansoftheGalaxy05pg072_zps479635b4.jpg
http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff492/twinzeeto/More%20Miscellany/GuardiansoftheGalaxy05pg071_zps32cec4f2.jpg

U really missed the boat on Drax my friend...toot

more to come, but ya... we'll talk about that fodder, Lunatik he kills in a surprise attack, he kills a Blood Brother when they are far apart (their powers are lessened the further apart they are) and those GotG scans are against a bunch of no-names...

/sigh

ok, so, while I'm still looking through GotG and trying to track down some of the Annihilation releases, lets talk about the "feat" Drax has killing "hundreds, maybe thousands" of fodder.

So, here it is, from Annihilation 4:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248971/Annihilation4fodderb.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248972/Annihilation4fodderc.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248973/Annihilation4fodderd.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248974/Annihilation4foddere.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248975/Annihilation4fodderf.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248976/Annihilation4fodderg.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248977/Annihilation4fodderh.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248978/Annihilation4fodderi.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248979/Annihilation4fodderj.jpg.html

Things to note:

- Drax says straight away that the enemies are docile because, as a hive mind, they don't think for themselves. The fact the battle is over and the good guys have retreated means Drax's enemies are not aware of his presence, and because they lack will, they are essentially docile. While it is true that Drax may have killed "hundreds if not thousands", he killed "hundreds if not thousands" of fodder enemies who were not even fighting back.
-The same thing happens when he kills the Queen. Sure, Drax shows good battle sense to rush her straight away, but he never has to fight the majority of the fodder in the scene. In fact, once the queen is dead, the vast majority of his enemies stop fighting him. In both of these cases this really isn't a matter up for debate, it is said directly, by Drax, on panel.
-The final part of the feat, Drax has some indeterminate amp because he is close to Thanos. He skips fighting the fodder and rushes straight to Thanos, who he kills without a fight. The highest point of this "feat" is when he resists Moondragon's TP attack, and he does it while amped, so it is hardly demonstrative of anything.

Now, lets see what happens when Drax fights these same enemies, though when they aren't passive, from Annihilation 1:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248980/annh1a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248981/annh1b.jpg.html

As we see here, Drax is very quickly overwhelmed, and only saved because Nova Prime decides to show up and save him.

I know I know, I'm supposed to be looking up Beast feats, but I don't collect X-titles like I should, and really, I'm certainly not going to let such inanity stand in terms of what is being passed off as "high end" Drax feats.

There are good Drax feats, and I think the character is supposed to be much more powerful than Beast. In a forum fight, where you need evidence to back up your claims, current Drax does not have a lot to go by.

Beast has 5000+ appearances though, so I'll probably finish up a couple more posts about current Drax before I get to that honestly... The highest feats I have from him atm are using gadgets against Thanos in Thanos Imperative. If he had that gear in this fight (namely the disintigrator disk), he would be much more of a threat, but it is hardly standard gear for him.

Originally posted by Oliver North
more to come, but ya... we'll talk about that fodder, Lunatik he kills in a surprise attack, he kills a Blood Brother when they are far apart (their powers are lessened the further apart they are) and those GotG scans are against a bunch of no-names...

/sigh
Aww come on dude. U gotta give credit where credit is due. If ure telling me beast can do better to those guys than what Drax did, tha's just crazee talk.

Funny thing is Gam Gam can prolly replicate what drax did and maybe do it better... I just think ure underestimating this bunch...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Aww come on dude. U gotta give credit where credit is due. If ure telling me beast can do better to those guys than what Drax did, tha's just crazee talk.

Funny thing is Gam Gam can prolly replicate what drax did and maybe do it better... I just think ure underestimating this bunch...

Originally posted by Oliver North
There are good Drax feats, and I think the character is supposed to be much more powerful than Beast. In a forum fight, where you need evidence to back up your claims, current Drax does not have a lot to go by.

Originally posted by Oliver North


ok, so, while I'm still looking through GotG and trying to track down some of the Annihilation releases, lets talk about the "feat" Drax has killing "hundreds, maybe thousands" of fodder.

So, here it is, from Annihilation 4:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248971/Annihilation4fodderb.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248972/Annihilation4fodderc.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248973/Annihilation4fodderd.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248974/Annihilation4foddere.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248975/Annihilation4fodderf.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248976/Annihilation4fodderg.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248977/Annihilation4fodderh.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248978/Annihilation4fodderi.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248979/Annihilation4fodderj.jpg.html

Things to note:

- Drax says straight away that the enemies are docile because, as a hive mind, they don't think for themselves. The fact the battle is over and the good guys have retreated means Drax's enemies are not aware of his presence, and because they lack will, they are essentially docile. While it is true that Drax may have killed "hundreds if not thousands", he killed "hundreds if not thousands" of fodder enemies who were not even fighting back.
-The same thing happens when he kills the Queen. Sure, Drax shows good battle sense to rush her straight away, but he never has to fight the majority of the fodder in the scene. In fact, once the queen is dead, the vast majority of his enemies stop fighting him. In both of these cases this really isn't a matter up for debate, it is said directly, by Drax, on panel.
-The final part of the feat, Drax has some indeterminate amp because he is close to Thanos. He skips fighting the fodder and rushes straight to Thanos, who he kills without a fight. The highest point of this "feat" is when he resists Moondragon's TP attack, and he does it while amped, so it is hardly demonstrative of anything.

Now, lets see what happens when Drax fights these same enemies, though when they aren't passive, from Annihilation 1:

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248980/annh1a.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/15248981/annh1b.jpg.html

As we see here, Drax is very quickly overwhelmed, and only saved because Nova Prime decides to show up and save him.

I know I know, I'm supposed to be looking up Beast feats, but I don't collect X-titles like I should, and really, I'm certainly not going to let such inanity stand in terms of what is being passed off as "high end" Drax feats.

There are good Drax feats, and I think the character is supposed to be much more powerful than Beast. In a forum fight, where you need evidence to back up your claims, current Drax does not have a lot to go by.

Huh?? They are the same bugs in Anni1 and from Anni4.. They are no different. Richie took him out of the fight so we actually will never know what would've happened in that instance. If anything Drax was more determined in Anni4 than he was in Anni1. There is absolutely no proof that the bugs are less aggressive in Anni4. I don't know where ure getting that from...

it states, on panel, that the bugs didn't have the free will to attack him.

Originally posted by Oliver North
it states, on panel, that the bugs didn't have the free will to attack him.
err.. can u point that out to me please.. the only thing im getting from one of the scans is that they think as a hive mind therefore act as one. they lack the individuality that enables things like "eleventh-hour heroics" which to him makes them easier to kill. that's his personal opinion and still does not discount the type of danger they've posed to countless star systems that already have been ravaged.

so, you can't see where it says they weren't attacking him, but even if it did, the on panel natration is wrong?

Originally posted by Oliver North
so, you can't see where it says they weren't attacking him, but even if it did, the on panel natration is wrong?
like i said. what panel is in question here really? i'm just asking a simple question.