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Who wins this epicly epic battle full of epicsauce!

I'll start off on my own post then.

I think this most likely ends with LOTR losing first, due to them lacking the power scale that Elder Scrolls and Runescape bring to the table, with all the giant Gods in both Runescape and Elder Scrolls, and all their powers. Saradomin and Zamorak's beam spamming and their sheer scale, plus all the lesser gods, like the Barrows Brothers, God Wars Generals, and Elder Scrolls has Akatosh, Mehrunes Dagon, Talos, Dovahkiin, plus powerful weapons like the Staff of Chaos, tons of different characters and monsters, it's just impossible for LOTR to keep up, plus, if Runescape gets Jas involved, its just done.

What is the most powerful being in Runescape?

Originally posted by NemeBro
What is the most powerful being in Runescape? The Elder Gods, which ruled firmly over Guthix, while Guthix ruled over everyone else while Zaros is above Saradomin, Zamorak, and everyone on their level or below them. The Elder Gods are said to be unable to die or be killed under any circumstances and have the ability to do anything and everything they liked, it is said that if the Elder Gods were to clash, the universe would end, but even after that, they would still be alive. I swear to god I'm not exaggerating, I'm being 100% factual. All I know is that the Mouth of Sauron, Gandalf the White, and the Witch-King are most likely Barrows brothers level, and the player can kill all seven of them, but the player never holds a damned candle to the Gods of Runescape. Sauron should be able to beat Zamorak, beat he is most likely evenly matched, if not over-powered by Saradomin, and thats not even close to the strongest Gods, like I said, LOTR loses, even with an army of Balrogs and tens of thousands of Soldiers, including Morgoth on their side. Elder Scrolls might be able to hold their own against Runescape, bold claims, but true ones.

what is the elder scrolls universe?

It's a videogame series.

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
what is the elder scrolls universe? Skyrim universe. Said Skyrim because most people can identify Skyrim then just Elder Scrolls.

The Dragonborn or Alduin alone could seriously damage Runescape. Deadric deities just make this spite.

The tag team of Anu and Sithis run wild, Anu is all over the ring flying around but Sithis comes in late cause he was busy giving "The Night Mother" the D, but when he shows up he leaps into the ring and slaps his brothers hand with one hand while gripping a steel chair firmly in the other, he starts taking the other Gods out with chair shots but it's no disqualification so anything goes, the crowd loves it and are all chanting "HAIL SITHIS" and Anu gets the pin.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
The Dragonborn or Alduin alone could seriously damage Runescape. Deadric deities just make this spite. Then you seriously underestimate the runescape gods, I have just pointed out cold, hard facts as to why runescape is superior. Guthix takes Akatosh with Mild difficulty, and Talos gets his ass handed to him by Jas in less then Ten seconds and afterwards kills Alduin by LOOKING at him :P While the Elder Gods solo the Elder Scrolls. The Elder Gods are UNKILLABLE, they aren't just immortal, they literally cannot be killed, even by each other, so what makes you think that Alduin, who might be able to give the KBD a run for his money, be able to defeat them? Also... The Dragonborn, oh yes, god bless his adorable LITTLE BUTTON NOSE! Haha, no, Zamorak stomps on him and kills him, I guess you could call this fight a.... STOMP! See what I did there? ;D

They are not taking down Sheograth or Sithis. Much less the combined group.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They are not taking down Sheograth or Sithis. Much less the combined group. So, Sheogorath could destroy the universe by fighting another Daedra? I doubt any of the Nine Divines could do that, and until you prove me otherwise, my opinion is solid, you can't just make claims without backing them up. (Although Dolos does is quite often)

Unfortunately for you, I never said he was fighting another daedra Read it again. Sheograth is not part of the nine divines, son, he is a daedra prince of which there are 17. Research is key.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They are not taking down Sheograth or Sithis. Much less the combined group.

What has Sheogorath done that is so great?

And Sithis seems to be less a being and more a primordial force (chaos). It's implied the "Sithis" the Dark Brotherhood worship is actually just one of the Deadric princes.

But yeah, Elder Scrolls wins. Unless Eru Iluvatar is involved.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Unfortunately for you, I never said he was fighting another daedra Read it again. Sheograth is not part of the nine divines, son, he is a daedra prince of which there are 17. Research is key. Never said he was one of the nine, just saying they couldn't do it. Also, I was implying that if Sheogorath fought another Daedric Prince, the world wouldn't go boom, much less the whole damn universe, whileas in Runescape, one clash of the Elder Gods and thats it, whole universe gone, and they STILL live even after they blow up the whole goddamned universe, as I said, they are unkillable, immortal, and unbeatable, they cannot be killed by anyone, they are omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent in every way.

No evidence to suggest they are immortal to daedric beings. Their weapons can cleave even the intangible.

Alduin could also eat them.

Originally posted by ares834
Alduin could also eat them. Except for the fact that the Elder Gods can pick Alduin up with one hand and play baseball with him while he tries to use his puny fireballs from the sky to damage them (Which would have little to no effect on them)

Originally posted by COG Veteran
No evidence to suggest they are immortal to daedric beings. Their weapons can cleave even the intangible. Except that in terms of pure ability, they outclass the nine. They also outclass the Daedric princes. Lets say the Nine and the Daedric Princes combine forces and manage to beat the Elder Gods. They still have to take on Gods that are more-or-less on their level such as Saradomin, Armadyl, Zamorak, Zaros, Guthix, Bandos, and other God-like beings such as the barrows brothers, the egyptian gods of the game, the god wars general's such as Zilyana and others. I haven't even brought up half the Omnipresent beings yet, and it already looks like all nine divines and seventeen daedric princes are getting defeated.

Nope. Daedric princes can operate out of their own oblivion realm. Runescape gods have no way of breaking into there.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
they are omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent in every way.

If this is true, why did you make this thread?

Elder Scrolls verse is being slept on, I mean we don't even know who the Ideal Masters are but they seem to be powerful enough to not give a f*ck what daedric princes think lol.

To be fair even if all the Elder Gods stats check out, it says they can't be killed not that they can't be hurt, also it doesnt state they cant be BFRed. Also it mentions they were created by something which isn't named so they certainly aren't almighty, powerful yes but not like Pre-Retcon Beyonder or TOAA levels.

Padomay (Sithis) existed before all else and was the one who brought about the chaos to Anu which created everything in the Elder Scrolls verse, so at the very worst it's a stalemate but I still stand behind the two prime dieties of the ES verse.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Nope. Daedric princes can operate out of their own oblivion realm. Runescape gods have no way of breaking into there. So the Princes hide then in their little Oblivion Realm while the Elder God's take turns playing Catch with Alduin, creating Chaos all over Tamriel, leaving the Nine Divines no choice but to stop them their self, and losing in the process. Then the other omnipresent beings of RS come and help the Elder God's of RS take over Tamriel, and with no one to stop them, eventually the world. :P

Respond to me you craven whore.

So you made an intentional spite thread?

Originally posted by NemeBro
If this is true, why did you make this thread? Because its fun to troll people who think everyone in Runescape is weak. Just by the game, we've already established that when compared to Runescape, LOTR dies pretty damn quick, then when Elder Scrolls steps in is when the real fight starts, because the Elder Scrolls has an Omnipresent being known as Sithis, which is the one that would pose the biggest threat to the Elder God's.

Uh, how it LotR dying quickly. Eru Iluvatar is also omnipotent.

So, you failed at creating a spite thread. Congratz.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Because its fun to troll people who think everyone in Runescape is weak. So because you're a stupid son of a fat whore.

Got it.

Originally posted by Yamcha
Elder Scrolls verse is being slept on, I mean we don't even know who the Ideal Masters are but they seem to be powerful enough to not give a f*ck what daedric princes think lol.

To be fair even if all the Elder Gods stats check out, it says they can't be killed not that they can't be hurt, also it doesnt state they cant be BFRed. Also it mentions they were created by something which isn't named so they certainly aren't almighty, powerful yes but not like Pre-Retcon Beyonder or TOAA levels.

Padomay (Sithis) existed before all else and was the one who brought about the chaos to Anu which created everything in the Elder Scrolls verse, so at the very worst it's a stalemate but I still stand behind the two prime dieties of the ES verse. Alright, now let's say that Unknown Thing that created the Elder God's joins the battle as well. Also, if they can't be killed, then how do Sithis or the Nine Divines plan to beat them.

The power of love.

Originally posted by ares834
Uh, how it LotR dying quickly. Eru Iluvatar is also omnipotent.

So, you failed at creating a spite thread. Congratz. Great, so it's three omnipotent beings versus one, not to mention the one that created them in the first place, Eru is overwhelmed, maybe not killed, but definitely defeated, then the Elder God's play catch with Sauron like they did with Alduin and flick Morgoth so hard that his Balls contract into his body.

Originally posted by NemeBro
So because you're a stupid son of a fat whore.

Got it. Such a colorful vocabulary -Claps-

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Great, so it's three omnipotent beings versus one, not to mention the one that created them in the first place, Eru is overwhelmed, maybe not killed, but definitely defeated, then the Elder God's play catch with Sauron like they did with Alduin and flick Morgoth so hard that his Balls contract into his body.



It doesn't matter how many omnipotents you throw at another omnipotent. Neither side is being overwhelmed unless they aren't truly omnipotent.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Alright, now let's say that Unknown Thing that created the Elder God's joins the battle as well. Also, if they can't be killed, then how do Sithis or the Nine Divines plan to beat them. For one I had a feeling you'd bring that up but to be fair it can't really be included, it doesn't even have a name for one. At least wait until the series brings it into view, it's kinda like people using Whis from BOTG in a debate when....we have no idea what he can actually do...This being may be a TAD more powerful or overwhelmingly so, we have no idea. Again Sithis existed before everything, not necessarily evil just nothingness and the Void, he and his brother Anu are enough to deal with any threat but when you start getting on these levels and going on "What If" it just gets mind numbingly repetitive we're basically stumbling in the dark, it's essentially TOAA vs The Presence and just becomes a who you like more thing.

Like I said at worst it's a stalemate, and with an Omnipotent being in LOTR you may be looking at a 3 way stalemate.


They can't be killed but no one's killed Sithis or his bro either, the only option when you get into this stuff is BFR but if you're dealing with beings of this magnitude anyone could probably port back, so it's an endless loop. Knock outs are considered a loss though and it's not killing so that would be another option these beings could use but I have trouble imagining an omnipotent slugfest it just feels...wrong.

It's best to chalk it up as a stalemate before everyone gets a brain aneurism.

Wait, the Elder Gods were made by a different being... Lol, then they likely aren't even omnipotent.

Originally posted by ares834


It doesn't matter how many omnipotents you throw at another omnipotent. Neither side is being overwhelmed unless they aren't truly omnipotent. So they just have a never-ending battle. Great, then all the normal runescape gods come in and **** LOTR's world up 10 times over. You are overlooking the fact that Runescape his tons of God-Level entities that LOTR just can't stand up to, Guthix takes down Morgoth, with slight difficulty, and then Zaros defeats Sauron, Saradomin blasts Gandalf away pretty easily, Zilyana beats Aragorn, Armadyl and Bandos solo the Nazgul, the Barrows Brothers take down the Witch-King, the PC (Player Character) defeats the rest of the fellowship with actually a lot of difficulty. For every character LOTR has, Runescape can 1-Up them every step of the way.

Looks like someone is butthurt. Had bad experiences with Tolkien fans before?

Originally posted by Yamcha
For one I had a feeling you'd bring that up but to be fair it can't really be included, it doesn't even have a name for one. At least wait until the series brings it into view, it's kinda like people using Whis from BOTG in a debate when....we have no idea what he can actually do...This being may be a TAD more powerful or overwhelmingly so, we have no idea. Again Sithis existed before everything, not necessarily evil just nothingness and the Void, he and his brother Anu are enough to deal with any threat but when you start getting on these levels and going on "What If" it just gets mind numbingly repetitive we're basically stumbling in the dark, it's essentially TOAA vs The Presence and just becomes a who you like more thing.

Like I said at worst it's a stalemate, and with an Omnipotent being in LOTR you may be looking at a 3 way stalemate.


They can't be killed but no one's killed Sithis or his bro either, the only option when you get into this stuff is BFR but if you're dealing with beings of this magnitude anyone could probably port back, so it's an endless loop. Knock outs are considered a loss though and it's not killing so that would be another option these beings could use but I have trouble imagining an omnipotent slugfest it just feels...wrong.

It's best to chalk it up as a stalemate before everyone gets a brain aneurism. Alright, I can live with that. Just the Omnipotent beings stalemate though, besides that, LOTR is outclassed on either side.

Originally posted by ares834


Looks like someone is butthurt. Had bad experiences with Tolkien fans before? What are you talking about? I'm calm right now, broseph.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
So the Princes hide then in their little Oblivion Realm while the Elder God's take turns playing Catch with Alduin, creating Chaos all over Tamriel, leaving the Nine Divines no choice but to stop them their self, and losing in the process. Then the other omnipresent beings of RS come and help the Elder God's of RS take over Tamriel, and with no one to stop them, eventually the world. :P

Yes. The Princes kick back in their realms after Sheograth has turned the Elder Gods into concubines for his dining halls once they realize how weaksauce Runescape magic is.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Yes. The Princes kick back in their realms after Sheograth has turned the Elder Gods into concubines for his dining halls once they realize how weaksauce Runescape magic is. Sheogorath's got nothing on any
of them, Omnipotent is Omnipotent, Sheogorath can be killed, Elder Gods can't. Case Closed. Oh, and Sheogorath can't blow up the damn universe from fighting another Daedric Prince and Survive even after it's destruction, nice try though.

Lol. I never said he could blow up the universe. Quote where I said that. You can't? concession accepted. Sheograth has not been stated that he is mortal. Try again. And do try to post facts. Your troll failing is unimpressive.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Lol. I never said he could blow up the universe. Quote where I said that. You can't? concession accepted. Sheograth has not been stated that he is mortal. Try again. And do try to post facts. Your troll failing is unimpressive. I know you didn't say that, I was making a point. And it is a FACT that the Elder God's can't die. Guthix, and lesser god's of the runescape universe CAN die, though they are all still very powerful. In fact, Guthix was killed in the World Wakes quest.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Sheogorath's got nothing on any
of them, Omnipotent is Omnipotent, Sheogorath can be killed, Elder Gods can't. Case Closed. Oh, and Sheogorath can't blow up the damn universe from fighting another Daedric Prince and Survive even after it's destruction, nice try though. No Daedric Prince has ever been killed.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I know you didn't say that, I was making a point. And it is a FACT that the Elder God's can't die. Guthix, and lesser god's of the runescape universe CAN die, though they are all still very powerful. In fact, Guthix was killed in the World Wakes quest.
You were trying to make a point that does not exist. I'll be impressed when you show me a Daedric prince being harmed.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No Daedric Prince has ever been killed. You fought Sheogorath in one of the Elder Scrolls games, though I forget which one

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Skyrim universe. Said Skyrim because most people can identify Skyrim then just Elder Scrolls.


is skyrim a good game to play? whats it all about?

Originally posted by COG Veteran
You were trying to make a point that does not exist. I'll be impressed when you show me a Daedric prince being harmed. You are just one big
fat ball of confusion, aren'tcha buddy? When I referred to "Making a point" I was talking about the fact that Sheogorath can't destroy the Universe. Not that the Daedric Princes can be harmed. Just because they never have been, doesn't mean they can't be. If they ever fought eachother, I am fairly sure they would be able to get hurt, same thing if the Divine's fought the princes.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
You are just one big
fat ball of confusion, aren'tcha buddy? When I referred to "Making a point" I was talking about the fact that Sheogorath can't destroy the Universe. Not that the Daedric Princes can be harmed. Just because they never have been, doesn't mean they can't be. If they ever fought eachother, I am fairly sure they would be able to get hurt, same thing if the Divine's fought the princes.

They can't be harmed. Absolutely nothing has been stated to harm them. No sense in going back to that, dude. Considering they have tricksters on their team, all Sheograth has to do is trick the Elder Gods into destroying each other.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They can't be harmed. Absolutely nothing has been stated to harm them. No sense in going back to that, dude. Considering they have tricksters on their team, all Sheograth has to do is trick the Elder Gods into destroying each other. I do have to agree with you on that, the Elder God's aren't exactly friends, only part you are wrong on is the destroying each other part, because they can't die :P

Stalemate. Thats all I can agree to in this scenario.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
Stalemate. Thats all I can agree to in this scenario.

Yeah, not much we can say since neither can kill the other :P Stalemate then.

Originally posted by COG Veteran
They can't be harmed. Absolutely nothing has been stated to harm them. No sense in going back to that, dude. Considering they have tricksters on their team, all Sheograth has to do is trick the Elder Gods into destroying each other.

K, so, this thread is a few years old, but I needed to bring this up.

Molag Bal, Mehrunes Dagon.

They have both been "harmed".

Depends on if we take evrything from LOTR the best any other setting can do is a stalemate. Illuvatar (=TOAA) makes sure of it. I also think that Tom Bombadil as the Avatar of Tolkien himself would be also unbeatable. It comes down to supreme being vs supreme being and there it's always a stalemate.