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One required armies to defeat and survived for hundreds to thousands of years.

The other was killed and outwitted by a teenager.

Originally posted by NemeBro
One required armies to defeat and survived for hundreds to thousands of years.

The other was killed and outwitted by a teenager. So you're ignoring the armies Sauron had working for him in that battle.

You're also ignoring the help Harry had, the fact the wand didn't truly obey Voldemort, and the fact he had defeated Harry multiple times in the movies ?


Who returned to a body and who didn't.

Its a tie

Sauron had armies working for him because he was competent enough to acquire huge armies. Voldemort required most of the films to get his body back and acquire a small army. Sauron had his army building up before he even came back to power.

Harry outwitted Voldemort by tricking him into thinking the wand obeyed Voldemort.

Sauron didn't need a body to bring Middle-earth to its knees.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sauron had armies working for him because he was competent enough to acquire huge armies. Voldemort required most of the films to get his body back and acquire a small army. Sauron had his army building up before he even came back to power.

Harry outwitted Voldemort by tricking him into thinking the wand obeyed Voldemort.

Sauron didn't need a body to bring Middle-earth to its knees.

You a flip flop for Sauron, you just lost all credibility

Originally posted by NemeBro
Sauron had armies working for him because he was competent enough to acquire huge armies. Voldemort required most of the films to get his body back and acquire a small army. Sauron had his army building up before he even came back to power.

Harry outwitted Voldemort by tricking him into thinking the wand obeyed Voldemort.

Sauron didn't need a body to bring Middle-earth to its knees. Sauron never got his ring back. How many years passed without him ever acquiring his body ? How many years did it take for Voldemort to acquire a body ?

Voldemort took over the wizarding world unlike Sauron. He never ruled over anything.

How would Voldemort know when he wasn't there and Snape was secretly against him ?

Sauron needed massive armies to do so. The massive armies brought it to its knees while Sauron stared on in the distance.

Voldemort acquired his body because he had competent servants however, like Peter Pettigrew. Sauron is the brains behind his whole operation. Also, finding a ring is far more difficult than finding a famous boy.

Voldemort took over a small part of the wizarding world.

Sauron never ruled anything? He rules over a large section of the world, geographically far greater than Voldemort's territory.

Exactly, Voldemort has double agents and shit in his agency because he's terrible at ruling. Sauron stamps out all traitors.

Sauron ruled and directed those massive armies that he literally created. Voldemort has a small group of British dandies under him.

Voldemort was defeated by a baby.

Yeah, I think Sauron's better.

Way the f**k off topic, who is showcased in your set, Neph?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Voldemort acquired his body because he had competent servants however, like Peter Pettigrew. Sauron is the brains behind his whole operation. Also, finding a ring is far more difficult than finding a famous boy.

Voldemort took over a small part of the wizarding world.

Sauron never ruled anything? He rules over a large section of the world, geographically far greater than Voldemort's territory.

Exactly, Voldemort has double agents and shit in his agency because he's terrible at ruling. Sauron stamps out all traitors.

Sauron ruled and directed those massive armies that he literally created. Voldemort has a small group of British dandies under him. You are calling Pettigrew a competent servant ? He was just deathly afraid of Voldemort and was a scab. Saruman was a competent follower who raised an army of over 10,000 for him. That is competence unlike Pettigrew who was aided by Voldemort screaming at him step by step what to do.



Snape killed Dumbledore there was no way to know. He killed Snape anyways.

Sauron had no double agents and still lost.


Voldemort has hundreds of wizards on his side who would run roughshot over Middle Earth. Too powerful and too much magic for Middle Earth to overcome.

Originally posted by Sacred 117
Way the f**k off topic, who is showcased in your set, Neph?

Lelouch vi Britannia, a character from the anime Code Geass.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Voldemort was defeated by a baby.

Yeah, I think Sauron's better. Are you ignoring the context behind his mothers sacrifice ? Of course you are. It's like saying Sauron was defeated by a guy on his back with half a sword.

Voldemort returned and overtook the Ministry and the magical world.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lelouch vi Britannia, a character from the anime Code Geass.

Alright. Tanks for the info.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you ignoring the context behind his mothers sacrifice ? Of course you are. It's like saying Sauron was defeated by a guy on his back with half a sword.

Voldemort returned and overtook the Ministry and the magical world.



Oh right ok, let me re-phrase: Voldemort got defeated by the power of LOOOOOVE!

What a ****ing loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112 You are calling Pettigrew a competent servant ? He was just deathly afraid of Voldemort and was a scab.

He was also the only one who resurrected Voldemort.



And was defeated by trees, and you ignore that Sauron commanded him to build that army and manipulated him with the Palantir.



He found Voldemort by himself.



Snape's manipulations still brought about Voldemort's downfall.



Sauron also had to contend with armies of enemies.



A single Balrog or dragon would kill them all.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh right ok, let me re-phrase: Voldemort got defeated by the power of LOOOOOVE!

What a ****ing loser. Sauron was defeated by the aftermath of a hobbit throwdown. Love didn't kill him either. That is inaccurate. Voldemort was in control or in power whereas Sauron never was despite his massive armies.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He was also the only one who resurrected Voldemort.



And was defeated by trees, and you ignore that Sauron commanded him to build that army and manipulated him with the Palantir.



He found Voldemort by himself.



Snape's manipulations still brought about Voldemort's downfall.



Sauron also had to contend with armies of enemies.



A single Balrog or dragon would kill them all. Yes, due to him listening to Voldemort's commands right next to him. He was lucky he escaped years ago. He is just a scared victim who does whatever Voldemort wants.

Saruman's army was defeated at Helm's Deep and Ents. The Ents are far bigger and stronger than his army which was defeated at Helm's Deep anyway.

And was aided by Voldemort. He was also captured and lived as a pet for years. Lucky for him he escaped. If you think he's some model badass follower you need to rewatch the films.

Again, Voldemort was not there and he killed Snape. Dumbledore, Snape, Harry, his friends, etc. Were all responsible.

Voldemort had to contend with the Ministry which he destroyed and overtook. One guy conquered whereas the other guy got conquered.


They had dragons tied up and tortured. Wizards rule don't be silly. Voldemort would crush the weak Balrog.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, due to him listening to Voldemort's commands right next to him. He was lucky he escaped years ago. He is just a scared victim who does whatever Voldemort wants.

And the only one who freed him from his unlife.



Point?



He is not a badass, but he is competent. Far more-so than Lucius Malfoy. Only Barty Crouch Jr. was more competent as a minion.

Peter chose to stay with Ron.



Sauron knows everything about what goes on with his army, he has his troops down pat. Voldemort did not.



The Ministry is weak and incompetent however, and Voldemort conquered a very small part of Britain. Not too impressive.



Dragons in Lord of the Rings are much bigger and more powerful than HP dragons.

Originally posted by NemeBro
And the only one who freed him from his unlife.



Point?



He is not a badass, but he is competent. Far more-so than Lucius Malfoy. Only Barty Crouch Jr. was more competent as a minion.

Peter chose to stay with Ron.



Sauron knows everything about what goes on with his army, he has his troops down pat. Voldemort did not.



The Ministry is weak and incompetent however, and Voldemort conquered a very small part of Britain. Not too impressive.



Dragons in Lord of the Rings are much bigger and more powerful than HP dragons. Due to him listening to Voldemort. The man knew how to take an order.

Ents didn't defeat his army. You lied.

I never said he was the best follower. He was the most spineless. A competent follower is Snape. Crouch as well. Saruman was a very competent follower as well who can think on his own. Pettigrew is not a mastermind he is a yes man.

Sauron's troops always lost. Not something to brag about. Voldemort was successful and turned many to his side. Snape was still killed. It was a combined effort to bring him down. He required betrayal whereas Sauron was just beaten straight up despite having massive armies at his disposal.


The Ministry was not ineffective it is just Voldemort was the bees knees of the Potter universe. Everyone was scared shitless of him. Voldemort conquered the magical world which was far more impressive than Middle Earth which was never conquered and consisted of five wizards.


And ? Hundreds of wizards and acting like one dragon destroys hundreds of wizards is just stupid. Stop.

Wizards stomp.


You also have Giants, Dementors, Centaurs, etc. in the Potter verse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Due to him listening to Voldemort. The man knew how to take an order.

He found Voldemort on his own.



They defeated Saruman himself, lern2read.



Snape was a traitor, not a follower at all. Crouch is competent, but so is Pettigrew, who easily didn't give a **** about anything.

Saruman was competent, but always under Sauron's thrall, and it speaks to Sauron's brilliance that he acquired a wholly competent, yet also wholly loyal follower like Saruman.



Sauron's troops kicked Gondor's ass before the battle of Minas Tirith, watch the movie.

Voldemort successfully was nearly killed by a baby.



A fact that is totally incidental.



Sauron was defeated through the efforts of far more people than Voldemort.



The Minister of Magic refused to even believe he was back and actively hindered the heroes' efforts toward stopping him until movie 5's end. They suck ass.

Voldemort conquered a small portion of Britain, calm down.



Most wizards suck though.



Dragons solo.

Originally posted by NemeBro
He found Voldemort on his own.



They defeated Saruman himself, lern2read.



Snape was a traitor, not a follower at all. Crouch is competent, but so is Pettigrew, who easily didn't give a **** about anything.

Saruman was competent, but always under Sauron's thrall, and it speaks to Sauron's brilliance that he acquired a wholly competent, yet also wholly loyal follower like Saruman.



Sauron's troops kicked Gondor's ass before the battle of Minas Tirith, watch the movie.

Voldemort successfully was nearly killed by a baby.



A fact that is totally incidental.



Sauron was defeated through the efforts of far more people than Voldemort.



The Minister of Magic refused to even believe he was back and actively hindered the heroes' efforts toward stopping him until movie 5's end. They suck ass.

Voldemort conquered a small portion of Britain, calm down.



Most wizards suck though.



Dragons solo. Ok, but the bulk of his feats were listening to Voldemort. The guy isn't impressive at all.

No, they kept him stuck on his tower. An army of Ents are greater than Saruman. What the hell did you expect ?

Snape was a competent follower of Dumbledore. The guy was in the shadows and maintained the utmost secrecy until his death. He was competent.

Saruman was a good follower whereas Pettigrew was a wimp who was afraid of everyone and did not have a backbone.

Sauron's troops lost. Voldemort overtook the Ministry. Voldemort seized power and was not stopped by his mothers charm of protection.

Voldemort killed him anyway. Awesome for Voldemort.

Untrue. All that was required was the destruction of the ring. Thats it. For all his armies just tossing a ring in stopped him and his armies.

They did realize he was back. Most didn't believe Sauron was coming back either. Sauron never came back whereas Voldemort did. Voldemort also conquered wizards not a world of elves, hobbits, and weak men who Sauron couldn't even conquer.

No, they don't. Far more impressive abilities than Gandalf the gay.


Voldemort solos all Lotr dragons.

Sauron > Voldermort /fact

I think they are both losers.

Sauron's orcs were as bad as Saturday morning carton henchmen and Voldy couldn't even grow a new nose for himself.



LUH-OOZERS!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Robtard
Sauron > Voldermort /fact Based on ? At least make a case.

Their both great villians. Personally I always felt more frightened by Sauron

Originally posted by Robtard
Sauron > Voldermort /fact

Yea...Voldy couldn't even beat a little baby.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on ? At least make a case.

The films. Give them a cry, sport.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Their both great villians. Personally I always felt more frightened by Sauron Why ?

Because Voldermort looks like a skinny deformed pedo while Sauron is all evil force of destruction. Duh.

Originally posted by Robtard
The films. Give them a cry, sport.

She can't afford a DVD player.

Originally posted by Robtard
I don't see Voldemort's spells as being powerful enough to defeat him. There are mages in LoTR and entire armies that would make the death eaters run and Sauron single handedly was turning the tide.

He was defeated through pure luck and even his eye seemed vastly more powerful in the movies than Voldemort. It was an army of elves and men. Arrows and swords are shit when compared to HP wizards.

Sauron was dominating guys with swords and arrows due to his ring having dominion over them all.


No, it didn't. Voldemort was the most powerful wizard in a world of wizards so his competition was greater.

Voldemort ripped through a magically enforced shield hundreds of wizards couldn't break through with a few seconds of rage induced blasting.

His eye didn't display the power Voldemort did. He also does not have the abilities such as apparition, kill curse, torture curse, etc.

Originally posted by Robtard
Because Voldermort looks like a skinny deformed pedo while Sauron is all evil force of destruction. Duh. Voldemort rejected his humanity and terrified a world of wizards not elves, men, and hobbits.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was an army of elves and men. Arrows and swords are shit when compared to HP wizards.

Sauron was dominating guys with swords and arrows due to his ring having dominion over them all.


No, it didn't. Voldemort was the most powerful wizard in a world of wizards so his competition was greater.

Voldemort ripped through a magically enforced shield hundreds of wizards couldn't break through with a few seconds of rage induced blasting.

His eye didn't display the power Voldemort did. He also does not have the abilities such as apparition, kill curse, torture curse, etc.


Once again I copy/pasted your own argument from before the time you had Voldemort's cock in your *******. Granted, I fixed some of the spelling errors and such, but it's still 100% you argument.

Good job arguing against yourself again

"Are you ever not going to fall for that?" - Loki

Originally posted by Robtard
Once again I copy/pasted your own argument from before the time you had Voldemort's cock in your *******. Granted, I fixed some of the spelling errors and such, but it's still 100% you argument.

Good job arguing against yourself again

"Are you ever not going to fall for that?" - Loki I told you I changed my mind due to the reasoning. Voldemort and the magic in Potter is far more superior. Lotr magic Sauron sits atop the mountain but less competition and in Potterverse Voldemort reigns supreme. Voldemort has superior abilities and feats.

Originally posted by Robtard
Once again I copy/pasted your own argument from before the time you had Voldemort's cock in your *******. Granted, I fixed some of the spelling errors and such, but it's still 100% you argument.

Good job arguing against yourself again

"Are you ever not going to fall for that?" - Loki

Why dig up the past after the facts have already changed? That thread was made 3 years ago and is null and void.

Sauron easily. At least he can beat a baby without getting beaten by the power of LOOOOOVE.

Originally posted by Supra
Why dig up the past after the facts have already changed? That thread was made 3 years ago and is null and void.

At least tell me Quanchi offered you something worthwhile for you to blindly play his support-interference, cos this is all you've done since coming back from your temp-ban.

Achievement definitely goes to Sauron. He had whole armies worshiping him and the rest of the world quivering in fear. Voldemort had his own share of followers and scared villagers but not on the same scope as Sauron.

Planning goes to Voldemort though. After all, he was actually able to come back from his undeath. Sauron forever remained as a floating eye after his defeat.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sauron easily. At least he can beat a baby without getting beaten by the power of LOOOOOVE. Due to his mothers sacrifice. I know context is a foreign language to you but at least try to understand. Voldemort defeated Harry and he had tons of help.

Originally posted by Robtard
At least tell me Quanchi offered you something worthwhile for you to blindly play his support-interference, cos this is all you've done since coming back from your temp-ban.

I been here longer then you or quan, your living in a dream if you think otherwise.

Originally posted by Supra
I been here longer then you or quan, your living in a dream if you think otherwise.

"you're"

Originally posted by Robtard
"you're" "Voldemort."

That is the correct answer to this thread.

Sauron wasn't overpowered by a teenager in magic, twice. Priori Incantatum and the chase in Deathly Hallows. What a loser.

Originally posted by Robtard
"you're"

You try doing this on your phone, but while your sitting at home alone watch this on your big screen

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Sauron wasn't overpowered by a teenager in magic, twice. Priori Incantatum and the chase in Deathly Hallows. What a loser. Harry fled the fight which is a loss. Voldemort also had him at his mercy using the Crucio.

In Deathly Hallows the elder wand never truly belonged to Voldemort. Context, sport.

In OTTP Voldemort defeated Harry as well.

Originally posted by Supra
You try doing this on your phone, but while your sitting at home alone watch this on your big screen


Not watching that, but I like you

Originally posted by Robtard
Not watching that, but I like you

You are afraid to watch your life I guess. I like you too.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Harry fled the fight which is a loss. Voldemort also had him at his mercy using the Crucio.

In Deathly Hallows the elder wand never truly belonged to Voldemort. Context, sport.

In OTTP Voldemort defeated Harry as well.

So Voldemort's a bad-ass cos he scared a student wizard What an impressive feat.

Voldemort despite all his supposed power got his ass handed to him by that same student wizard.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Voldemort's a bad-ass cos he scared a student wizard What an impressive feat.

Voldemort despite all his supposed power got his ass handed to him by that same student wizard.

Gandolf gets owned by anyone he encounters then gets locked up for a time being which is good because all he does is Saurons bidding in all of the movies.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Voldemort's a bad-ass cos he scared a student wizard What an impressive feat.

Voldemort despite all his supposed power got his ass handed to him by that same student wizard. He is a badass because he dominated a world of wizards.

Context.

You always avoid it. Voldemort came back to life unlike Sauron. Voldemort took over unlike Sauron. Voldemort had more impressive feats. Voldemort had more competition than Sauron.

Originally posted by Supra
Gandolf gets owned by anyone he encounters then gets locked up for a time being which is good because all he does is Saurons bidding in all of the movies.

"Gandalf"

Originally posted by Robtard
"Gandalf" That isn't countering his points.

Originally posted by Robtard
"Gandalf"

Just like all the people backed into a wall do, they run to grammar police.

Originally posted by Supra
Just like all the people backed into a wall do, they run to grammar police.

At no point did Sauron become so retarded as to do this:

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or this:

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So he wins.

Sauron >>>>> Voldemort. There's no contest.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Oh right ok, let me re-phrase: Voldemort got defeated by the power of LOOOOOVE!

What a ****ing loser.
haermm

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Sauron >>>>> Voldemort. There's no contest. Based on ? He couldn't even get his body back whereas Voldemort did so. Give a few examples of this horrendous reasoning.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Sauron >>>>> Voldemort. There's no contest.

And yet after Voldemort was defeated and "killed", he was still able to come back and get his physical body back. Sauron never become more than a floating eye after his defeat.

I won't say Voldemort is more powerful than Sauron, but I'd definitely say he's smarter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok, but the bulk of his feats were listening to Voldemort. The guy isn't impressive at all.

More impressive in terms of intelligence than Voldemort.



I am only pointing out that this super competent follower that you believe helped Sauron along was made a non-threat in the span of a single movie.



Not Voldemort.



Unlike Voldemort.



A man can be cowardly and competent at the same time.



Voldemort's troops held the Ministry (Aka a small part of Britain) for about a month.

Sauron held all of Mordor and made incursions into the rest of Middle-earth for centuries.



And killing him helped lead directly to his downfall.

Hell, Voldemort is the same stupid ponce who was tricked by Mrs. Malfoy. He has the ability to tell if someone is lying, but is too stupid to make use of it. What a dumb **********.



It required armies manfighting his armies to make the destruction of the ring possible.

Or did it just take a single teenager beating him in a duel to defeat Voldemort quan?



Voldemort conquered a small group of wizards. Sauron was a threat to the world.

Also, even without a body he is more powerful than any wizard.



Reported.



Voldemort couldn't solo your mother. Even though everyone else has.

Sauron, easy.

Voldy has more presence than Sauron, but Voldy is still the guy that got his ass whipped by a teenager.

Originally posted by Impediment
Sauron, easy.

Voldy has more presence than Sauron, but Voldy is still the guy that got his ass whipped by a teenager.

Sauron destroys fishface.

Originally posted by Impediment
Sauron, easy.

Voldy has more presence than Sauron, but Voldy is still the guy that got his ass whipped by a teenager.

Well to be fair, Sauron tucked tail when his finger got cut off. Not exactly so badass either.

He was butchering an entire army of elves and half-elven badasses, equipped with weapons and armor surpassing the finest human smiths. I'd say his "WHERE'S MAH BODY" is acceptable in this case.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Well to be fair, Sauron tucked tail when his finger got cut off. Not exactly so badass either.

Writing Fail and it had to happen due to books

Originally posted by NemeBro
More impressive in terms of intelligence than Voldemort.



I am only pointing out that this super competent follower that you believe helped Sauron along was made a non-threat in the span of a single movie.



Not Voldemort.



Unlike Voldemort.



A man can be cowardly and competent at the same time.



Voldemort's troops held the Ministry (Aka a small part of Britain) for about a month.

Sauron held all of Mordor and made incursions into the rest of Middle-earth for centuries.



And killing him helped lead directly to his downfall.

Hell, Voldemort is the same stupid ponce who was tricked by Mrs. Malfoy. He has the ability to tell if someone is lying, but is too stupid to make use of it. What a dumb **********.



It required armies manfighting his armies to make the destruction of the ring possible.

Or did it just take a single teenager beating him in a duel to defeat Voldemort quan?



Voldemort conquered a small group of wizards. Sauron was a threat to the world.

Also, even without a body he is more powerful than any wizard.



Reported.



Voldemort couldn't solo your mother. Even though everyone else has. So now you believe the guy who was basically Voldemort's slave is more intelligent ? You're ridiculous and make no sense.

This makes no sense and doesn't take into account the time he was an actual threat or what he faced off against. According to you living in fear and being spineless while being someone's household pet is ingenious.

I never said he was a follower of Voldemort's. Voldemort still killed him anyway.

Voldemort was competent and overtook the wizarding world. He was so competent Snape couldn't even actively come at him and still died by Voldemort's command.

Pettigrew wasn't that good just a yes man. He basically hid and cried while listening to Voldemort out of fear. Pettigrew is a good slave. That's all.



Sauron didn't hold the elves, the hobbits, or the dwarves. Voldemort took over the wizarding world which is far more impressive than Middle Earth which Sauron never held control over.


She lied to him. Big whoop. Betrayal was needed to stop Voldemort unlike Sauron who just lost.

The armies were inconsequential to destroying the ring. Hell, any old wizard from Potter could fly it and drop it into Mount Doom.

Voldemort conquered a governing body of wizards whereas Sauron couldn't conquer a disorganized band of resistance. Voldemort assumed power and a body back whereas Sauron could do neither.

Sauron can't even get his body back. He just sits idly by and can't even move from his destination. Voldemort can fly and go wherever he wants.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
He was butchering an entire army of elves and half-elven badasses, equipped with weapons and armor surpassing the finest human smiths. I'd say his "WHERE'S MAH BODY" is acceptable in this case.

Yeah and Voldermort had the entire wizarding community scared shitless of him. He was dispatching the greatest wizards left and right. Then he got trounced by a baby boy and later by a teenage boy.

Sauron had the entire middle earth quivering in fear. He was dispatching humans and elves left and right. Then he got his finger cut off and that was that.

But they're not the same. Disembodied Sauron defeated the defenses of even Gandalf the Grey, who is the same guy that fist-fights Balrogs.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
But they're not the same. Disembodied Sauron defeated the defenses of even Gandalf the Grey, who is the same guy that fist-fights Balrogs. Who loses to Saruman.

An even more powerful version was shown up by the Witch King who went down to Aragorn and a torch.

Let's play this game.

He also used a sword and magic against the Balrog.

Aragorn didn't kill the Witch-king; he ambushed him. It's kind of a lame example since in the books, Aragorn would crap himself instead of fighting the Nine. But whatever. You love low-balling LOTR, which is why you only debate the film products, so you can disregard anything that might challenge your bias.

You should make a thread of book Voldy versus book Sauron/Gandalf/etc. sometime.

Originally posted by Stealth Moose
Aragorn didn't kill the Witch-king; he ambushed him. It's kind of a lame example since in the books, Aragorn would crap himself instead of fighting the Nine. But whatever. You love low-balling LOTR, which is why you only debate the film products, so you can disregard anything that might challenge your bias.

You should make a thread of book Voldy versus book Sauron/Gandalf/etc. sometime. This is the movie forum. Quit trying to go around the rules because you're upset a mere torch owned the Nazgul.

I bring up all the feats you want to ignore how the guy is portrayed in the films.


This is the movie versus if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the movie forum. Quit trying to go around the rules because you're upset a mere torch owned the Nazgul.

I bring up all the feats you want to ignore how the guy is portrayed in the films.


This is the movie versus if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. And the reason you steer clear of the books is because they upset your bias. You don't need to be embarrassed about that.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And the reason you steer clear of the books is because they upset your bias. You don't need to be embarrassed about that. I have never read the books, detective. Movies only. Cry elsewhere.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I have never read the books, detective. Movies only. Cry elsewhere. I'm not really surprised.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I'm not really surprised. This is the movies forum. Anyone crying about the books demonstrates a clear bias wanting the other side to win. That is obvious. You acting like I left them out due to bias in the movie forum was off. You aren't a good detective.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This is the movies forum. Anyone crying about the books demonstrates a clear bias wanting the other side to win. That is obvious. You acting like I left them out due to bias in the movie forum was off. You aren't a good detective. No detective work. You avoid the All Vs. forum on this topic for a reason. You don't even make a thread about it just to gauge the characters from another perspective. If you, did you would find something that would upset your bias, hence you ignoring it. There's nothing wrong with that, but your obsession with the Harry Potter characters really lends you to unlikeability and dismissal. Maybe you should try branching out? Explore the worlds outside your fandoms? You might like it. Learn something even.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No detective work. You avoid the All Vs. forum on this topic for a reason. You don't even make a thread about it just to gauge the characters from another perspective. If you, did you would find something that would upset your bias, hence you ignoring it. There's nothing wrong with that, but your obsession with the Harry Potter characters really lends you to unlikeability and dismissal. Maybe you should try branching out? Explore the worlds outside your fandoms? You might like it. Learn something even. I avoid the topics because I didn't read the books.


I have seen all of these movies before so I will stick to what I've seen and not go around threads in which I don't have adequate knowledge to have an opinion on.

Based off the films Voldemort is hands down more impressive and powerful.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No detective work. You avoid the All Vs. forum on this topic for a reason.

Then why are you here?

The are both amazing.

Originally posted by Cat Lady
The are both amazing.

Welcome to the Fold

Originally posted by Cat Lady
The are both amazing. Voldemort is more amazing.