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How does Nekron not sodomize Blight with his scythe in spiteful fashion?

Originally posted by zopzop
How does Nekron not sodomize Blight with his scythe in spiteful fashion?

How does Nekron destroy evil?

Originally posted by Golgo13
How does Nekron destroy evil?
He was about to annihilate all life in the universe till his link to mainstream DC was severed. Nekron can strike out at Blight (by killing all living things), Blight can't do anything to Nekron.

Originally posted by zopzop
He was about to annihilate all life in the universe till his link to mainstream DC was severed. Nekron can strike out at Blight (by killing all living things), Blight can't do anything to Nekron.

That doesn't mean he can kill or defeat the embodiment of evil.

Originally posted by Golgo13
That doesn't mean he can kill or defeat the embodiment of evil.
Sure it does.

Evil has no meaning to non living things. Nekron could have and WOULD have killed every living being in the universe if his link to mainstream DCU wasn't severed. Bye bye evil.

What's Blight gonna do to Nekron? Nothing.

I would wait until we see how Blight is defeated before jumping to conclusions. So far, Nekron has displayed superior firepower.

Originally posted by zopzop
Sure it does.

Evil has no meaning to non living things. Nekron could have and WOULD have killed every living being in the universe if his link to mainstream DCU wasn't severed. Bye bye evil.

What's Blight gonna do to Nekron? Nothing.

Nekron doesn't have the feats to destroy all life in the universe. And Blight isn't going to let him do that anyway.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nekron doesn't have the feats to destroy all life in the universe.
**cough*** Blackest Night *** cough***


And what can he possibly do to stop him?

Nekron wins.

Originally posted by zopzop

**cough*** Blackest Night *** cough***


And what can he possibly do to stop him?

Nekron wins.

What did he do? I forgot.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What did he do? I forgot.
He was about to kill the White Entity and as he struck it all living things across the universe felt pain. Even the White Entity couldn't stop him, the only way they took Nekron down was by severing his connection to Black Hand. Then Nekron was BFRed back into his realm.

From what we've seen from Blight so far, he's out of his league here.

Originally posted by zopzop
He was about to kill the White Entity and as he struck it all living things across the universe felt pain. Even the White Entity couldn't stop him, the only way they took Nekron down was by severing his connection to Black Hand. Then Nekron was BFRed back into his realm.

From what we've seen from Blight so far, he's out of his league here.

If he killed all evil, then wouldn't he kill himself in the process? Nekron is evil, right?

Originally posted by Golgo13
If he killed all evil, then wouldn't he kill himself in the process? Nekron is evil, right?
No. Even Geoff Johns said he's not evil more of a "get off my lawn" type of character.

Plus he's soulless, hence why Spectre couldn't judge him.

Originally posted by zopzop
Sure it does.

Evil has no meaning to non living things. Nekron could have and WOULD have killed every living being in the universe if his link to mainstream DCU wasn't severed. Bye bye evil.

What's Blight gonna do to Nekron? Nothing.

What about evil robots? I mean sentient evil robots not just average robots serving an evil master. Evil A.I.? Must be something like that in the DC universe.

Does that constitute life that would have been killed by Nekron? And if not wouldn't it continue to spread evil, perhaps against 'good' robots/A.I.

What about entities like GEB or DCnU equivalent, which are by definition evil? Can Nekron get rid of them? Or evil angels, demons etc?

I really don't know anything about Blight.

Lol this jumped the gun.

Originally posted by basilisk
What about evil robots? I mean sentient evil robots not just average robots serving an evil master. Evil A.I.? Must be something like that in the DC universe.

Does that constitute life that would have been killed by Nekron? And if not wouldn't it continue to spread evil, perhaps against 'good' robots/A.I.

What about entities like GEB or DCnU equivalent, which are by definition evil? Can Nekron get rid of them? Or evil angels, demons etc?

I really don't know anything about Blight.
Nekron would have wiped the universe clean of life. "Evil" robots (assuming they can be evil in the way living beings are) wouldn't pose a problem to a universal abstract if he wanted to ice them now would they?

GEB is so far above Nekron and Blight it's pointless bringing him up in a discussion involving these two. He's safely beyond either of their influence.

Where feats are concerned, Nekron definitely wins.

Originally posted by Golgo13
That doesn't mean he can kill or defeat the embodiment of evil.

Imo, there's no arguing that Nekron is more significant/powerful than Blight.

Remember that Blight is the evil only in humanity, not more. It's been continually stated in the arc, here's 2 scans (and i could post a half dozen more) confirming it:

http://i.imgur.com/zv90Ozq.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/P0AOl5g.jpg?1

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While Nekron? Nekron is the darkness before existence, a GL issue (BN tie-in) tells us his origins:

http://i.imgur.com/g8LdsyE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vsqEnVu.jpg

Nekron is the manifested darkness before existence itself.

Johns confirmed that prior to that; in an interview:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/08/13/blackest-nights-mastermind-revealed

"He (Nekron) is the darkness."

So you be the judge, and tell us who's more significant.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Nekron doesn't have the feats to destroy all life in the universe. And Blight isn't going to let him do that anyway.

He does, apart from the facts that Zop mentioned. Nekron empowered Krona with the power to destroy/uncreate the whole universe back in Tales of the GL corps (remember i told you this a few days ago in another thread?). He couldn't do that himself since he wasn't able to leave his dimension (that's generally his weakness, and it's always how he's defeated in all his stories, by sealing him away in his dimension). Here are the scans:

http://i.imgur.com/pZI9k9t.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/TqiGbv0.jpg?1

This showing is canon, post crisis-wise as well.

That's not to say that Blight is unimpressive; on the contrary, i was impressed with Blight, but i just don't believe that he's on Nekron's level. At least not as of now (and i doubt the case will change).

Originally posted by operator616
Imo, there's no arguing that Nekron is more significant/powerful than Blight.

Remember that Blight is the evil only in humanity, not more. It's been continually stated in the arc, here's 2 scans (and i could post a half dozen more) confirming it:

http://i.imgur.com/zv90Ozq.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/P0AOl5g.jpg?1 While this is true, this also makes it sound like Blight is a planet-level force. But given his trouncing of Phantom Stranger(who appeared equal to Spectre), he's certainly a LOT more than that.

He's still no Nekron, though. Not yet, at least.

Originally posted by operator616
While Nekron? Nekron is the darkness before existence, a GL issue (BN tie-in) tells us his origins:

http://i.imgur.com/g8LdsyE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vsqEnVu.jpg

Nekron is the manifested darkness before existence itself.

Johns confirmed that prior to that; in an interview:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/08/13/blackest-nights-mastermind-revealed

"He (Nekron) is the darkness."

So you be the judge, and tell us who's more significant. Confirmed again here:
http://i.imgur.com/NGXTbNT.jpg

There are more examples, of course, but these are the most blatant/explicit among them.

Originally posted by Galan007
While this is true, this also makes it sound like Blight is a planet-level force. But given his trouncing of Phantom Stranger(who appeared equal to Spectre), he's certainly a LOT more than that.

He's still no Nekron, though. Not yet, at least.


I was mostly commenting on the scale of the concept he represents. But yeah, you're right that being > PS, definitely makes him above planet-level, power-wise.

@operator616
You found the interview I was talking about :
notworthy

Originally posted by operator616
Imo, there's no arguing that Nekron is more significant/powerful than Blight.

Remember that Blight is the evil only in humanity, not more. It's been continually stated in the arc, here's 2 scans (and i could post a half dozen more) confirming it:

http://i.imgur.com/zv90Ozq.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/P0AOl5g.jpg?1

-------------

While Nekron? Nekron is the darkness before existence, a GL issue (BN tie-in) tells us his origins:

http://i.imgur.com/g8LdsyE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vsqEnVu.jpg

Nekron is the manifested darkness before existence itself.

Johns confirmed that prior to that; in an interview:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/08/13/blackest-nights-mastermind-revealed

"He (Nekron) is the darkness."

So you be the judge, and tell us who's more significant.



He does, apart from the facts that Zop mentioned. Nekron empowered Krona with the power to destroy/uncreate the whole universe back in Tales of the GL corps (remember i told you this a few days ago in another thread?). He couldn't do that himself since he wasn't able to leave his dimension (that's generally his weakness, and it's always how he's defeated in all his stories, by sealing him away in his dimension). Here are the scans:

http://i.imgur.com/pZI9k9t.jpg?1
http://i.imgur.com/TqiGbv0.jpg?1

This showing is canon, post crisis-wise as well.

That's not to say that Blight is unimpressive; on the contrary, i was impressed with Blight, but i just don't believe that he's on Nekron's level. At least not as of now (and i doubt the case will change).

Cool beans. I don't know if I misread it, but the universe thing was here:



http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=48316

And on his wiki for what it's worth.



http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Blight_%28Forever_Evil%29

Or on DC.com



It's also on the comicvine bio, but I won't post that. I guess a lot of people misread how powerful he is.

However, Phantom Stranger just pointed out last Blight issue that he has become even MORE powerful. Already, you have the Trinity of Sin, Swamp Thing, AND Constantine not able to do a thing. I know John said he was able to kill it, but that was just a statement.

^ I see.

Though villains.wikia is a wiki which can be edited by anyone. So it isn't usable at all.

CBR interviews are good, but ive seen a dozen of on panel statements saying that Blight is the embodiment of evil in humanity, and id rather stick to that.

Still, Blight is evidently much greater than a planetary power.

Originally posted by operator616
^ I see.

Though villains.wikia is a wiki which can be edited by anyone. So it isn't usable at all.

CBR interviews are good, but ive seen a dozen of on panel statements saying that Blight is the embodiment of evil in humanity, and id rather stick to that.

Still, Blight is evidently much greater than a planetary power.

Well, if we say that Blight can take the Trinity of Sin, where do you place him in the cosmic hierarchy?

^ im gonna wait and see, and won't jump to any conclusions as of now. We can't just rank him on par/above Spectre-level just because he seems to be well beyond PS, we'll have to wait to see more feats and how would he be defeated.

Originally posted by operator616
^ im gonna wait and see, and won't jump to any conclusions as of now. We can't just rank him on par/above Spectre-level just because he seems to be well beyond PS, we'll have to wait to see more feats and how would he be defeated.

Indeed, since early previews seem like they're going to show Spectre as a few paygrades above PS & Co.

We'll see. Based on the previews it looks like God will intervene before PS even gets a chance to try and fight back, which kind of sucks. It would be nice to see him finally go berserker rage... Not just on Spectre, but on Heaven itself.
happywank

Anybody's opinion change?

Nekron still wins where feats are concerned.

However, everything thrown at Blight by the heroes(namely PS, Zauriel, Constantine, and White Light Pandora) ultimately made him more powerful. In the end, it took the Will of the Presence just to contain the Blight entity:
http://imgur.com/FuusNCt
http://imgur.com/pvZTrHf
http://imgur.com/HCJWBCn
http://imgur.com/AkiG762

...So while Nekron wins a feat war, I'm not really sure how he'd defeat Blight for any length of time, either..? /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Nekron still wins where feats are concerned.

However, everything thrown at Blight by the heroes(namely PS, Zauriel, Constantine, and White Light Pandora) ultimately made him more powerful. In the end, it took the Will of the Presence just to contain the Blight entity:
http://imgur.com/FuusNCt
http://imgur.com/pvZTrHf
http://imgur.com/HCJWBCn
http://imgur.com/AkiG762

...So while Nekron wins a feat war, I'm not really sure how he'd defeat Blight for any length of time, either..? /shrug

While I agree with you about the fight, I'm think saying it took "the will of the Presence just to contain Blight" is misleading.

I think what you mean to say is that it was the will of the Presence that Blight be used to bring out the Spirit of Redemption, which sealed Blight. It's not as if the issue said nothing short of the will of the Presence could defeat him, which is what it sounds like you said.

How is what I said misleading? In the end, it did take the Will of the Presence just to contain the Blight entity.

Originally posted by Galan007
How is what I said misleading? In the end, it did take the Will of the Presence just to contain the Blight entity.

Eh, Blight was a part of the Presence's greater plan to release the Spirit of Redemption. I just think the way you're wording it is misleading.

I think you're reading into my statement too much.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nekron still wins where feats are concerned.

However, everything thrown at Blight by the heroes(namely PS, Zauriel, Constantine, and White Light Pandora) ultimately made him more powerful. In the end, it took the Will of the Presence just to contain the Blight entity:
http://imgur.com/FuusNCt
http://imgur.com/pvZTrHf
http://imgur.com/HCJWBCn
http://imgur.com/AkiG762

...So while Nekron wins a feat war, I'm not really sure how he'd defeat Blight for any length of time, either..? /shrug
Meh, Nekron STILL wins.

Blight got owned by an Aspect of God, Nekron made one version of an Aspect of God his ***** and told another version to phuck off.

Originally posted by Galan007
Nekron still wins where feats are concerned.

However, everything thrown at Blight by the heroes(namely PS, Zauriel, Constantine, and White Light Pandora) ultimately made him more powerful. In the end, it took the Will of the Presence just to contain the Blight entity:
http://imgur.com/FuusNCt
http://imgur.com/pvZTrHf
http://imgur.com/HCJWBCn
http://imgur.com/AkiG762

...So while Nekron wins a feat war, I'm not really sure how he'd defeat Blight for any length of time, either..? /shrug

I'm just wondering, so you wouldn't put White Light Pandora above Blight even though she defeated him?

Originally posted by zopzop
Meh, Nekron STILL wins.

Blight got owned by an Aspect of God, Nekron made one version of an Aspect of God his ***** and told another version to phuck off.

And Nekron got owned by Hal's will, which is a direct link to the Will of Creation (i.e. God's Will)
duster

Originally posted by kevdude
I'm just wondering, so you wouldn't put White Light Pandora above Blight even though she defeated him?

She didn't defeat him. He bounced right back.

Originally posted by Cogito
And Nekron got owned by Hal's will, which is a direct link to the Will of Creation (i.e. God's Will)
duster

Hal has been pulling ridiculous sh|t out his ass for decades. So it's not that bad especially considering it was Nekron's power that ultimately saved the day.

Haters gonna hate.

Originally posted by zopzop
Blight got owned by an Aspect of God, Nekron made one version of an Aspect of God his ***** and told another version to phuck off. I am aware of Spectre being unable to judge Nekron because he has no soul:
http://imgur.com/qSv0NtK

But what other aspect of God did Nekron own..? Or are you referring to 'teh black powa' overtaking Spectre?

Either way, Blight being imprisoned by the embodiment of the Presence's Will is certainly no low feat.

Originally posted by Cogito
And Nekron got owned by Hal's will, which is a direct link to the Will of Creation (i.e. God's Will)
duster Look at the brain on this motherphucker!

Originally posted by Cogito
And Nekron got owned by Hal's will, which is a direct link to the Will of Creation (i.e. God's Will)
duster



She didn't defeat him. He bounced right back.

Well afterwards yeah, between the Phantom Stranger talking to Chris, and Pandora second guessing herself about killing him, Blight got the upper hand because of her doubt.

Blight beat WL Pandora head-on after she momentarily dispersed him:
http://imgur.com/kheCt44
http://imgur.com/bBxKXCJ
http://imgur.com/uj3ki5Z
And it was never stated that her doubt actually affected her power, btw--she simply commented that she hoped it wouldn't.


On another note, that has got to go on record as one of the most useless powerups to date.

I agree, I just don't know what else it could have been that effected her to end up losing the second round. If it wasn't her doubt then what was it?

Btw hard to say who wins, both of them took on some big hitters in the DCU.

Originally posted by kevdude
I agree, I just don't know what else it could have been that effected her to end up losing the second round. If it wasn't her doubt then what was it? Blight became more and more powerful as the arc progressed:
http://imgur.com/Z9NtFyx