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FORCE SABERS ALL OUT

Kenobi

Kenobi for me as well

Angral

Kenobi.

The Kenobi trashing never stops either.

RotS Kenobi is trashed severely.

AotC Kenobi would probably lose this battle, though.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
RotS Kenobi is trashed severely.

AotC Kenobi would probably lose this battle, though.

Wait what?

Originally posted by Selenial
Wait what?

Uh, I said RotS Obi-Wan gets trashed in these parts, a lot. That being said, by AotC he probably isn't Angral's superior.

He had yet to get his Soresu on.

Originally posted by Selenial
Wait what?

On this forum we think AotC Kenobi >>> his RotS self. I thought it was pretty obvious, he put up a much better fight against Dooku there than in RotS, I mean cmon.

Originally posted by Nephthys
On this forum we think AotC Kenobi >>> his RotS self. I thought it was pretty obvious, he put up a much better fight against Dooku there than in RotS, I mean cmon.

Uhh, I'm guessing this is a joke.

Cause Dooku was trying to turn him to the dark side and was toying with him in AOTC.

Also, He was toted as the greatest Soresu master to ever live by Mace.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Uh, I said RotS Obi-Wan gets trashed in these parts, a lot. That being said, by AotC he probably isn't Angral's superior.

He had yet to get his Soresu on.

Uhh, didn't Kenobi start training in Soresu as soon as he saw how easily Jin's defenses failed him?

Jokes are for sad little babies who poop a lot in their diapers. We are super srs here. The Chris Nolan of Star Wars forums. And I am the Batman.

No he tried to kill him.

Mace is stoopid.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Jokes are for sad little babies who poop a lot in their diapers. We are super srs here. The Chris Nolan of Star Wars forums. And I am the Batman.

No he tried to kill him.

Mace is stoopid.

Seems legit, carry on good sir.

Originally posted by Selenial
Uhh, didn't Kenobi start training in Soresu as soon as he saw how easily Jin's defenses failed him?

In the RotS novel Dooku was taken by surprise by Kenobi's Soresu, which he had never demonstrated in the past. Obviously this has been contradicted by their encounters in the Clone Wars, but in their AotC battle Dooku had never seen Kenobi practice it.

Dooku was actually impressed by Anakin and Obi-Wan's growth from the end of TCW to RotS. The problem is that Kenobi seems to not know what a Force Shield is half the time. Considering he doesn't have any remoteness of this growth, he'd have to blitz.

Indeed, for someone so specialised into defense, his defense against the force was laughable.

He was ragdolled by Dooku, an incredibly potent Force User. That's hardly a count against Obi-Wan.

Sure, Ventress also did it, but that was also in a state she's not usually in. She did the same to Anakin, who we all know is infinitely more powerful than she.

Other than that, it's just Maul, who only was capable of it on a Dark Side Nexus.

Maul did it on Florrum....

That's not a Dark Side Nexus (Is it?)

Didnt Savage choke him or send him flying with a force wave too?

Yeah, but that was in rage mode. Where he choked Dooku.

Angral didnt have any remarkable force feats anyone has mentioned

Originally posted by Selenial
Maul did it on Florrum....

That's not a Dark Side Nexus (Is it?)

That toss hardly constitutes as a ragdolling. I was referring to their encounter in Sith Hunters.

"Toss?" It was several feet. It probably had more to do with Maul acting out of desperation though.

Edit: Double post

Not really desperation at that point, Maul and Savage could have beaten him alone had Savage not screwed up, they were toying with him.

It happens after Savage gets his arm cutoff. Maul was clearly desperate to get away. Doesn't really matter how the rest of the duel went.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
It happens after Savage gets his arm cutoff. Maul was clearly desperate to get away. Doesn't really matter how the rest of the duel went.

Ahh you're right, but maul did lift him and slam him into a wall (Just like Dooku did) before that.

Originally posted by carthage
Didnt Savage choke him or send him flying with a force wave too?

Yeh, Seperatist destroyer above Toydaria, though he was amped by his hatred and betrayal by Ventress.

I mean, he got Anakin too, had to be some other underlying factor.

Considering he stalemated Anakin, until Skywalker's poor decision making cost him an arm and 2 legs...), it sometimes appears as though Obi-Wan gets underrated. Just an observation.

Obi-Wan fought an emotionally wrecked Vader who went as far as to choke his own wife. Even then he was getting his face stomped in and only won because of the "high ground" that always works to his advantage.
Originally posted by Selenial
Ahh you're right, but maul did lift him and slam him into a wall (Just like Dooku did) before that.
Ah, I forgot about that one.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Obi-Wan fought an emotionally wrecked Vader who went as far as to choke his own wife. Even then he was getting his face stomped in and only won because of the "high ground" that always works to his advantage.


That's what I originally thought, too, but according to the revamped Databank:

"Both powerful and evenly matched, the two former friends dueled to a stalemate until Anakin attempted to leap over his old Master, which Obi-Wan warned him not to try."

Originally posted by Kalen Sykes
That's what I originally thought, too, but according to the revamped Databank:

"Both powerful and evenly matched, the two former friends dueled to a stalemate until Anakin attempted to leap over his old Master, which Obi-Wan warned him not to try."
Eh, it does say that, but since that's not what happened in the movies or the novels and they're "still canon" I'm going to go with Obi-Wan was getting thrashed.