Count Dooku vs Darth Nox

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Sinious
Both characters in their primes.

Neutral ground.

Who is the superior Sith?

SunRazer
Nox should be the more powerful Sith Lord, but Dooku the more skilled.

AncientPower
I echo SunRazer, however I think said Force advantage is greater than the skill advantage.

S_W_LeGenD
If Darth Nox is augmented by the power of multiple Force Ghosts, he may literally stomp the opponent.

NewGuy01
Nah, Tyranus.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by SunRazer
Nox should be the more powerful Sith Lord, but Dooku the more skilled. I would say Dooku is as strong but I agree he is more skilled.Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If Darth Nox is augmented by the power of multiple Force Ghosts, he may literally stomp the opponent. laughing out loud

Selenial
Been doing a comparison of the two on the SWTOR forums.

As force users I see them as equals, but Nox is stronger in Alter so in a force fight she'd come out on top.

Dooku however has more combative applications of control, and could redirect her attacks long enough to get into melee, at which point she would be utterly eviscerated.

Beniboybling
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Nephthys
I actually don't think Nox would get annihilated by Dooku in sabers. She's a surprisingly excellent duelist. Personally I go with Nox to win, she's got the tools to beat Dooku.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Nephthys
I actually don't think Nox would get annihilated by Dooku in sabers.

It's certainly questionable, in large part because Nox is almost completely unknown as a duelist.



I'm not really convinced, not that she necessarily isn't.

Nephthys
Well she's as skilled with a lightsaber as she is with the Force, and that's a hell of a lot. She's also got really great feats like beating Khem and a Terentatek as an acolyte with a practice saber and beating a Sith Lord without the Force.

Plus she can grab lightsabers with TK like she did with Thanaton.

NewGuy01
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well she's as skilled with a lightsaber as she is with the Force,

According to a vague and demonstrably unreliable quote that applies to all Sorcerers alive at the time.



Who had lost the vast majority of his power.



She still had the Force, she was in the process of losing her connection. Also, Paladius isn't a particularly impressive fighter himself either.



If that was a foolproof tactic, no one would ever bother specializing in lightsaber combat during the GSW.

S_W_LeGenD
Originally posted by Beniboybling
laughing out loud
You might be aware of fate of Darth Thanaton.

Nephthys
Originally posted by NewGuy01
According to a vague and demonstrably unreliable quote that applies to all Sorcerers alive at the time.



Who had lost the vast majority of his power.



She still had the Force, she was in the process of losing her connection. Also, Paladius isn't a particularly impressive fighter himself either.



If that was a foolproof tactic, no one would ever bother specializing in lightsaber combat during the GSW.

Last I checked, Nox was an Inquisitor. The quote establishes that all Inquisitor's are as skilled with lightsabers as they are with the Force and so that applies to Nox as well, which is clearly backed up by her feats.

Khem still had enough potency to punch through a wall of rock.

She was weakened such that she couldn't even summon sparks of lightning or resist Paladius' TK at all, her other powers would be similarly weak. And as a Sith Lord Paladius still possesses superhuman abilities and attributes that Nox would have to match with pure skill and physical prowess.

I never claimed it was foolproof. It doesn't have to be an invincible defense to offer a substantial advantage. With it Nox can stall Dooku and force a Force battle. It's a more advanced version of Dooku blocking Anakin's blade with a chair.

Selenial
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well she's as skilled with a lightsaber as she is with the Force, and that's a hell of a lot. She's also got really great feats like beating Khem and a Terentatek as an acolyte with a practice saber and beating a Sith Lord without the Force.

Plus she can grab lightsabers with TK like she did with Thanaton.

Actually no, that quote applies to Korriban inquisitor and nothing more.

Once she specialised down the line of a Sorcerer or Assassin, the quote about her lightsaber abilities doesn't apply.

Beniboybling
Originally posted by Nephthys
I actually don't think Nox would get annihilated by Dooku in sabers. She's a surprisingly excellent duelist. Personally I go with Nox to win, she's got the tools to beat Dooku. Considering Dooku has "annihilated" plenty of excellent duelists I don't think this makes much of a difference. His/her Force augmentation should prolong the fight but in terms of technique Nox is definitely outclassed.Originally posted by Nephthys
Plus she can grab lightsabers with TK like she did with Thanaton. Nox only did that after significantly weakening him however.Originally posted by Nephthys
I never claimed it was foolproof. It doesn't have to be an invincible defense to offer a substantial advantage. With it Nox can stall Dooku and force a Force battle. It's a more advanced version of Dooku blocking Anakin's blade with a chair. But as a comparable Force user and pretty exceptional when it comes to speed and agility, he should be able to dodge, block or endure anything thrown at him.

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